Irv Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 OK we lost. So I looked at the roster. Unlike a lot of years, I like most of these guys. The back-up's have played really well. I'm not a cap guru but I could do without these guys. Not too many: Derek Anderson Ray Ray McCloud Logan Thomas Vlad Ducasse Charles Clay Kelvin Benjamin The first 4 guys try hard. The last two guys make me want to throw up. I like the rest of the roster. The last couple of years I could have doubled the number on that list. I trust the process. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 hate to say it, but: Lesean McCoy. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I’d get rid of McCoy too. Has a cap hit of nearly 9 million too. He just seems to be slowing down a bit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, RiotAct said: hate to say it, but: Lesean McCoy. I thought about that too. Tough decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Clay is at top of my list. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Crossman, Castillo and the guy in the booth telling McClappy to throw the red flag, as well as pretty much everyone mentioned so far in this thread. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Shady, Kelvin, Charles Send 'em all home. Old expensive guys that aren't the reason we compete anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Irv said: OK we lost. So I looked at the roster. Unlike a lot of years, I like most of these guys. The back-up's have played really well. I'm not a cap guru but I could do without these guys. Not too many: Derek Anderson Ray Ray McCloud Logan Thomas Vlad Ducasse Charles Clay Kelvin Benjamin The first 4 guys try hard. The last two guys make me want to throw up. I like the rest of the roster. The last couple of years I could have doubled the number on that list. I trust the process. Agree the first 4 try but are just bad players. The last 2 are completely worthless. Still not sure about McKenzie yet? All these cuts have to include Crossman and Castillo let go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: Clay is at top of my list. I have him right behind #1 KB. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d get rid of McCoy too. Has a cap hit of nearly 9 million too. He just seems to be slowing down a bit. He will be gone and it's why it was a mistake not to move him at the deadline when we could have gotten something for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, Augie said: I have him right behind #1 KB. KB is a free agent though. No need to dump him. Just don't resign him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Agree the first 4 try but are just bad players. The last 2 are completely worthless. Still not sure about McKenzie yet? All these cuts have to include Crossman and Castillo let go. Bad is one thing, expensive and bad is another. Clay has to go, and KB is off to greener pastures with his contract up. Shocking that a guy in his contract year couldn’t be bothered to even TRY. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Irv, that list is pretty easy and I will bet that NONE of who you mention will be back. And with $100 million In cap space................... get help for Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Zebrastripes said: KB is a free agent though. No need to dump him. Just don't resign him. See below, or, uh...above. I was just answering who has to go, and I despise him the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 In this order: 1. Kelvin Benjamin 2. Charles Clay 3. Vlad Ducasse 4. LeSean McCoy 5. Derek Anderson 6. Russell Bodine 7. Ryan Groy 8. Jordan Mills 9. John Miller 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, Augie said: See below, or, uh...above. I was just answering who has to go, and I despise him the most. Ya his lack of effort makes me puke in my mouth multiple times a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) benjamin clay ducasse groy ..the only o lineman ideally id keep is dawkins if i had the choice. derek anderson can go barkley is backup. Edited December 3, 2018 by bills11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 1. Allen 2. Tre white 3. Hughes 4. Hyde 5. Kyle Williams Na I’m just joking. Benjamin and clay for sure though Edited December 3, 2018 by billsfan11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augie said: Bad is one thing, expensive and bad is another. Clay has to go, and KB is off to greener pastures with his contract up. Shocking that a guy in his contract year couldn’t be bothered to even TRY. Honestly, I know it has become the narrative that Kelvin Benjamin "doesn't even try"...I think that is BS. I think he tries, and he cares...did anyone ever stop to think that he just many not be that talented? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Buftex said: Honestly, I know it has become the narrative that Kelvin Benjamin "doesn't even try"...I think that is BS. I think he tries, and he cares...did anyone ever stop to think that he just many not be that talented? Based on my observation, it’s a fact that he barely tries, and a good supposition that his talent is overrated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Probably easier to list guys we want to keep on Offense. Allen/Barkley, Zay/Foster/McKenzie, Dawkins/Teller. Everywhere else can/should be upgraded, cut or moved to depth. On Defense, it’s much simpler. Resign Jordan Phillips and try to get one more season out of Lorax and maybe Kyle. Address #2 CB in the draft or FA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, RiotAct said: hate to say it, but: Lesean McCoy. I would rather get rid of an RB a year too soon than a year too late 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d get rid of McCoy too. Has a cap hit of nearly 9 million too. He just seems to be slowing down a bit. I don’t think he is slowing down. We just don’t have the best O-Line that is opening up a lot of holes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: In this order: 1. Kelvin Benjamin 2. Charles Clay 3. Vlad Ducasse 4. LeSean McCoy 5. Derek Anderson 6. Russell Bodine 7. Ryan Groy 8. Jordan Mills 9. John Miller Pretty much agreed. We may want to keep Bodine. He'd still be a serviceable backup at C if we draft a rookie high, plus the line has actually played sufficient with him in there. There has been a big drop-off when Groy is at C. I'd also keep Mills as a backup swing T. Hopefully we upgrade but he has improved a little. Shady needs to take a payout to stay. I'd give him 3 yrs at 5-6m to be the change of pace guy. Look at what Lindsey is doing in DEN. We need to find that kind of young talent later in the draft or UDFA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Tight end is a really difficult position to fill in the draft with early success. Clay is overpaid but he is still the best TE on the team by far both as a blocker and receiver. Unless they sign a credible FA, I think he will be back. My thought on McCoy are well documented and he should be back. He is still the second best player on the offense. 1. Lorax 2. PED Murphy 3. KB 4. Bodine 5. Ducasse 6. Miller 7. Special Penalty Holmes 8. Connor McDermott 9. Ray Ray 10. Logan Thomas 11. Ivory 12. Yarborough I would bring back Mills on a cheap deal if possible. They need a new center and at least one new guard. Finding an OT in the draft is getting harder and harder as they do not develop them in college. Mills is just about average to below average but could be a lot worse. Put a decent C and G next to him and he will still be the worst on the line but adequate. Free agency: C, G, DE, OLB, WR Draft: G, DL, WR, TE, CB, S, 3 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: I don’t think he is slowing down. We just don’t have the best O-Line that is opening up a lot of holes. LOL. We have the worst line in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Please don't forget Chris Brown and John Murphy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Augie said: Bad is one thing, expensive and bad is another. Clay has to go, and KB is off to greener pastures with his contract up. Shocking that a guy in his contract year couldn’t be bothered to even TRY. KB is showing the rest of the league he's a lazy malcontent. He'll get very little on his new contract. And prepare for him to bad mouth the team. Good riddance to bad garbage. Clay has just been an overpaid injury prone waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 My definite cuts: Benjamin Clay Crossman McCoy Definite Keeps: Allen Edmunds Zay Jones Haushka Tre White Milano Philips Hughes The rest of the players are mostly jags. Keep them if you can't replace them with cheaper jags or upgrade them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: 1. Kelvin Benjamin 2. Charles Clay 3. Vlad Ducasse 4. LeSean McCoy 5. Derek Anderson 6. Russell Bodine 7. Ryan Groy 8. Jordan Mills 9. John Miller I actually noticed quite a dropoff when Bodine is not at center, so maybe not him, but besides that, this is pretty spot on. They just need to make sure that there are credible replacements. Edited December 3, 2018 by dgrochester55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: My definite cuts: Benjamin Clay Crossman McCoy Definite Keeps: Allen Edmunds Zay Jones Haushka Tre White Milano Philips Hughes The rest of the players are mostly jags. Keep them if you can't replace them with cheaper jags or upgrade them. Benjamin isn’t under contract after this season. He’d have to be re-signed then cut. He’ll just be a free agent. Edited December 3, 2018 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, RiotAct said: hate to say it, but: Lesean McCoy. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 54 minutes ago, RiotAct said: hate to say it, but: Lesean McCoy. Would love to see a stud RB behind Josh Allen. A RB that can run it 20 - 30 times a game. Are there any like that in the 2019 draft and where are they projected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Im fine with keeping Bodine and Mills. They are both average and should be fine if we bring in 2 new above average O-Linemen in FA and/or the Draft to go with Dawkins and Teller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Whoever the guy is in the booth that tells the HC when to challenge a play. That guy’s gotta go! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 59 minutes ago, Irv said: OK we lost. So I looked at the roster. Unlike a lot of years, I like most of these guys. The back-up's have played really well. I'm not a cap guru but I could do without these guys. Not too many: Derek Anderson Ray Ray McCloud Logan Thomas Vlad Ducasse Charles Clay Kelvin Benjamin The first 4 guys try hard. The last two guys make me want to throw up. I like the rest of the roster. The last couple of years I could have doubled the number on that list. I trust the process. Trust the process but not the OL. Groy, Miller and Mills are terrible. Counting back ups we need 4 new offensive lineman, 3 new WRs, 2 new TEs, pretty much all the running backs are replaceable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, SCBills said: Probably easier to list guys we want to keep on Offense. Allen/Barkley, Zay/Foster/McKenzie, Dawkins/Teller. Everywhere else can/should be upgraded, cut or moved to depth. On Defense, it’s much simpler. Resign Jordan Phillips and try to get one more season out of Lorax and maybe Kyle. Address #2 CB in the draft or FA. They should get another CB, but Wallace is holding up well. 2019 #2 CB might already be playing at the #2 CB spot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Irv said: OK we lost. So I looked at the roster. Unlike a lot of years, I like most of these guys. The back-up's have played really well. I'm not a cap guru but I could do without these guys. Not too many: Derek Anderson Ray Ray McCloud Logan Thomas Vlad Ducasse Charles Clay Kelvin Benjamin The first 4 guys try hard. The last two guys make me want to throw up. I like the rest of the roster. The last couple of years I could have doubled the number on that list. I trust the process. Agreed. Clay and Benjamin for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Shady either needs to reinvent himself as more of a straightaway runner, take a drastically reduced role or be gone. The guy is my favorite player and it kills me to see it and to say it. At the end of the day we are being made 1 demential every week. And that 1 dimension isn’t even strong. It’s time to figure it out or let’s see what Murphy has. I would have gone to Murphy in the second half today. Give them a different look. It wasn’t working with Shady but they only mixed in Ivory. Murphy has been excellent in short stints. I am constantly confused by the personnel decisions made by this coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I’d keep Shady for sure, and Derek Anderson as #3 for mentorship. I’d only cut Clay if I thought there were better options. I think a great deal of this roster is expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Should be a pretty interesting preseason camp a lot of guys on offense fighting to keep their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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