How about Matt Barkley huh?

[akcash]

14 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

I like that he wanted to throw the ball downfield, we've just had so little of that for so long. Even a couple he had that were almost picked, I really didn't have a problem with. Interceptions happen sometimes when you let it rip. One in particular was on 3rd and 10 from I believe our 40 and he threw one to around the 20 that the Jets defender dropped. I'm cool with that even if it's picked, it's basically a punt. He took some chances and gave our WR's some opportunities to make plays. This is how we should always be playing, especially in a developmental season like this. 

Yeah like you say he gave our receivers chances to make plays

[TheFunPolice]

Good for Barkley and now I guess we need to put in a game or two for show until he plays like he has his entire career.

 

No big deal but its what we have to do so there's no controversy when Allen comes in

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Barkley provided what Peterman was supposed to . This season would be so different if we had two more wins.

 

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian

[BillsFan1988]

I think the biggest thing from this gm is we werent coached to look like we were scared of our own shadow. Team looked like they wanted to take calculated risks. Hopefully Mcd has turned the corner.

[CSBill]

Something to consider--I think it was implied above--the Bengals choose to go with Barkley over McCarron as their back-up. His injury derailed that process. I think he is a career low-level starter, but high on the 2nd string QB scale; that is, he is good to have around when you need him, but never going to be a franchise QB.

 

So, get him signed for the long hall, keep him as insurance for Allen, and get Allen back on the field when he is healthy--he is the one QB on the roster who can lead this team to the promised land. Will he or not? Who knows? But we have to give him the chance.

[bills11]

I will say this..I was really impressed with his mechanics and the throw to Zay in the end zone that was the best tight window  throw all year. Nonetheless we may have found our long term backup that's a positive 

Edited November 12, 2018 by bills11

[Freddie's Dead]

1 hour ago, bills11 said:

I will say this..I was really impressed with his mechanics and the throw to Zay in the end zone that was the best tight window  throw all year. Nonetheless we may have found our long term backup that's a positive 

 

That throw was NFL right there, with the pocket collapsing.

[Cripple Creek]

14 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Only one guy I know always had Barkley on his radar. @Cripple Creek  Don’t be surprised if you hear a few “I told you so’s” this week. Kudos sir!!

 

Thanks Ferguson. When I saw him in 8th grade playing against my son’s team I knew.

[RyanC883]

13 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Practice squad players practice with the team.  

 

It was known to be the first play of the game probably by Wednesday. You don't think they practiced it? 

 

It was a fly pattern up the sideline to a guy who easily beat his man. He could not have ever heard of Robert Foster and would know that if it is to his inside shoulder it's a TD. 

 

 

Some good points, but practice squad players do not get 1st team reps.  Assuming your analysis is correct on the pass,,  what QB on the team would have made a better throw?   I'd still keep Barkley starting while he's hot. 

 

[mjohns85]

When did they announce Barkley as the starter against the Jets? I didn’t realize it until the game kicked off. I frequent this board dozens of times per week, but hadn’t checked it since late last week. 

[Warcodered]

Just now, mjohns85 said:

When did they announce Barkley as the starter against the Jets? I didn’t realize it until the game kicked off. I frequent this board dozens of times per week, but hadn’t checked it since late last week. 

The day before I think.

[mjohns85]

Just now, Warcodered said:

The day before I think.

Thank you, good sir.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

[26CornerBlitz]

[mead107]

I think this has been covered.  

[Foxx]

have you seen him play outside of yesterday?

[SoCal Deek]

Because 90% of this Board has decided that USC cannot produce a starting NFL QB....where as they all know that Wyoming is a QB Factory!

[dollars 2 donuts]

Ah yes, I had the lasagna.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....their rookie seasons are 5 years apart.

Edited November 12, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[Roundybout]

Oh mah gawd what has Barkley done

[mead107]

He did good Awesome 

[billspro]

Josh Allen was a much better prospect than Barkley coming out of college. Allen carried that team, Wyoming has been brutal without him on the field. 

 

Barkley was a part of one of the worst NFL draft classes I have ever seen. Saying that, I did see some encouraging signs that he could be a quality back up for us. A back up QB is an important piece of a championship team (see the Eagles).

Edited November 12, 2018 by billspro

[jrober38]

Barkley most certainly was not behind an established starter in Chicago. 

[KD in CA]

I didn't bother with the ignore function for many years on this board but I'm now seeing the value.

[GG]

5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

 

Barkley had the ideal opportunity to show that he's an NFL caliber QB in Chicago.   He couldn't beat out Brian Hoyer.

 

I'm perfectly happy keeping him on the roster as the long term back up, but NOBODY should be entertaining thoughts of him being the long term starter.

[bobobonators]

5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

 

Barkley will be 29yrs old at the start of next season and has been on about 6 teams in his nfl career. 

 

He had an awesome game yesterday. Theres no need to make more of it than it really is. 

[CommonCents]

Good script for a TROJAN MAN commercial. 

[Warcodered]

9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

You conveniently forgot Barkley's other stat of being on his 6th NFL team in 5 years. You'd think if he was such an obvious choice one of those other 5 teams would of noticed something before now.

[MAJBobby]

14 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

 

Not Matt Barkley. 

 

And these are established starters?

 

2013 - Vick and Foles

2014 - Foles and Sanchez 

2015 - Cardinals couldnt play

2016 -  Cutler and Hoyer 

2017 - Az ans again couldnt play

 

so tell me where are those Established Starters?

Edited November 12, 2018 by MAJBobby

[Mike in Horseheads]

13 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

When we get brilliant threads like this we demand a poll

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

7 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Barkley had the ideal opportunity to show that he's an NFL caliber QB in Chicago.   He couldn't beat out Brian Hoyer.

 

I'm perfectly happy keeping him on the roster as the long term back up, but NOBODY should be entertaining thoughts of him being the long term starter.

Perfectly ideal, they were one of the worst offenses in teams in recent history. An absolutely terrible team. Yeah, that was a real time to shine

[Soda Popinski]

are we talking about Allen vs Darnold?  Because they haven't played each other yet. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I’m not saying I think he will be good. I just think it’s asinine to sit here and act like it’s more likely that Josh Allen will be better. It’s not

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m not saying I think he will be good. I just think it’s asinine to sit here and act like it’s more likely that Josh Allen will be better. It’s not

 

I don't think a single person here has advocated for getting rid of Barkley.  He's still here - he's still practicing. 

 

What i saw yesterday has an absolute CEILING of Case Keenum.  I don't think you can win a super bowl with case keenum, and as far asi know that is the goal.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

you know Op, one thing I notice about you and not really to knock you but you have always jumped on the bandwagon of QBs that have a good game or two.

 

even going as far as to make them your "new" avatar.

 

sure I know most if not all bills fans are desperate to having the right QB and not to take anything away from barkley but with no real tape on him and little time to prepare for him he was able to have a decent game against the jets. almost 250 2 tds and 0 ints, pretty much the best outing so far of the 4 of them.

 

teams have tape on him now but it may not matter anyhow as news has it, the starter will be allen after the bye?

 

don't knock allen or use where he came from and go on to prop up barkley just because he had a decent game yesterday. allen is the future, barkley could have one as the back up and I feel he is a much better choice at #2 then old legs anderson or nate "let me throw a pick" peterman? 

 

unless allen was to completely (which I doubt happens) flop, he will be the bills starter?

 

not matt barkley.

 

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by no name

[Warcodered]

This argument was relevant in April.

[MAJBobby]

I am 100% onboard Bringing Barkley back next season AS BACKUP over Peterman and Anderson. 

[aceman_16]

25 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

TLDR: "I hate the Allen pick"..... noted (again)

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I hope Allen turns out to be great. I just find it funny that people are almost expecting it. The guy has been nothing but terrible. Again, I’m not even saying yesterday was what Barkley is but I would certainly let him play again. I’m not going to be surprised if he ends up playing well.  I wouldn’t just decide he can’t be good because other teams didn’t see it. You never know when a guy is going to get it.

[CuddyDark]

26 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

A QB that was barely recruited and struggled at Wyoming?  A guy who did very little against severely inferior college competition? A guy that has a lot of physical ability but lacks most of the fundamentals that will allow a QB to be accurate? A guy who struggled to separate himeself from Mountain West competition? The most heavily scrutinized qb in the draft class and the one labeled most likely to bust?

 

Or the high school player of the year, all world recruit. 4 year starter at USC playing in big games against big time teams? Very successful college career. Projected top 10 pick in 2012. Highly polished. Highly intelligent....

 

 

When you actually look at what this is, outside of arm talent alone (which is very overrated)

Why would Allen be more likely to pan out then Barkley? They both have almost the same amount of starts. Barkley has always been behind established starters and never got a real chance to start. Everyone is making up their mind that Barkley’s ceiling is a good backup, but why? 

I'd still like to see if he floats ducks in the ralph before I get on board. People continue to forget one of the worst parts of playing QB in Buffalo is the circular wind at the ralph.

26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Because 90% of this Board has decided that USC cannot produce a starting NFL QB....where as they all know that Wyoming is a QB Factory!

The league decided he's a backup long before the board.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I hope Allen turns out to be great. I just find it funny that people are almost expecting it. The guy has been nothing but terrible. Again, I’m not even saying yesterday was what Barkley is but I would certainly let him play again. I’m not going to be surprised if he ends up playing well.  I wouldn’t just decide he can’t be good because other teams didn’t see it. You never know when a guy is going to get it.

 

If Allen is healthy. All indications he should be after the Bye. He ABSOLUTELY better get the start