Like A Mofo Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We all hear how badly some here want Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane fired NOW. Who do you want the Pegulas to get right now that would be much better? Don't just say 'I want them fired', provide a solution, a reasonable solution. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 They have none. They're angry old men who think that THEIR WAY is the best way and if they don't do it that way then fire everyone. 4 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Crickets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I want someone that knows how to build an offense. Someone that can evaluate talent beyond how they fit into a culture. I want someone that can call plays on offense when needed. Good Defensive Coordinators are a dime a dozen. Defenses no longer win in this NFL. They keep you in games, but they do not win them. McDermott is a glorified D-Coordinator, who is over his head as a head coach. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Anyone who wants to run a modern NFL offense. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, jkirchofer said: I want someone that knows how to build an offense. Someone that can evaluate talent beyond how they fit into a culture. I want someone that can call plays on offense when needed. Good Defensive Coordinators are a dime a dozen. Defenses no longer win in this NFL. They keep you in games, but they do not win them. McDermott is a glorified D-Coordinator, who is over his head as a head coach. He turned the season around completely last year. That warrants something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Names anyone? Of course I want someone too who can help the offense, but let's talk names. I am not that knowing myself, asking the panel of experts here who yearn for firings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, jkirchofer said: I want someone that knows how to build an offense. Someone that can evaluate talent beyond how they fit into a culture. I want someone that can call plays on offense when needed. Good Defensive Coordinators are a dime a dozen. Defenses no longer win in this NFL. They keep you in games, but they do not win them. McDermott is a glorified D-Coordinator, who is over his head as a head coach. Like who? Those are just meaningless words. Same with the other poster. It's so easy to say that but then attach some names to it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I dont want them fired. I like what Im seeing on D and am looking foward to what they plan this off season 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 They will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Patrick Mahomes. Id even settle for Russ Wilson. Again, coaches are all pretty much the same. If they have a good qb they win. If they don't, they won't 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenNOTchosen1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We need an offensive minded guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Not a single name named yet... Not shocked at all. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Lets get a special teams coach this time. The last one took us to 4 straight super bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Like who? Those are just meaningless words. Same with the other poster. It's so easy to say that but then attach some names to it Shanahan, Schottenheimer, David Shaw or Jim Harbaugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Keep them. I really want to see this regime get at least two more years after this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nester said: Not a single name named yet... Not shocked at all. Over/under on how long it will take to name one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Great topic OP. Someone finally threw some names out, but they are just that names...lol I'd give them another 1-2 years after this year and that is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Keep them for year 3 with a mandate to upgrade the offense starting with a re-evaluation of the position coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Perk71 said: Great topic OP. Someone finally threw some names out, but they are just that names...lol I'd give them another 1-2 years after this year and that is it. we cannot just keep changing GM's and Head Coaches like nothing, we have to stick with this. Now the Offensive Coordinator and such, that I agree with. Above all, we need to fix the OL. It always starts in the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Lincoln Riley. Also fits the ofeensive minded requirment 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Let’s just keep them and witness greatness at failing over the next year and a half. Then we can finally burn it all down and do it all over again. Like the last 20+ years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: we cannot just keep changing GM's and Head Coaches like nothing, we have to stick with this. Now the Offensive Coordinator and such, that I agree with. Above all, we need to fix the OL. It always starts in the trenches. That's why I said I'd give them 4 years. Definitely need to shore up the OL this off season and get some decent WR talent as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Crickets ...amplified...another one of these threads?......day care dismissal was early today I presume..........good Lord....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Lincoln Riley. Also fits the ofeensive minded requirment There we go! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenNOTchosen1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Let me reverse the question. Why do you want to keep McBeane? After starting 5-2 they have gone 6-12. And can we be real about Josh Allen? He wasn't even a good quarterback at Wyoming. He's probably going to bust if we're being realistic about it. I just don't see what is so great about McBeane. Edited October 30, 2018 by RosenNOTchosen1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) I don't want them fired, but also not a fan of what they did on offense up this point. They were handed an elite running team, and now made it one of the worst. Anyways I don't them fired but say for some reason they do get canned. I would take the Vikes OC John DeFilippo as the HC mainly because he would help Allen immensely. Other than that I have no other thoughts of who I'd want because it isn't realistic. Edited October 30, 2018 by Captain Murica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 the tank was supposed to start last year but the lack of offensive interceptions delayed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Names anyone? Of course I want someone too who can help the offense, but let's talk names. I am not that knowing myself, asking the panel of experts here who yearn for firings. Frank Reich. Pretty sure we interviewed him and went with the defensive version of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Quote No one is getting fired. This is a rebuild with 40% of the roster in their first or second year. Get a grip. As far as I'm concerned, this team is overachieving if they get to 5 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Every time this question came up over the years I would say get John Gruden away from MNF and sign him as the Bills coach. ? Boy was I ever wrong ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: I don't want them fired, but also not a fan of what they did on offense up this point. They were handed an elite running team, and now made it one of the worst. Anyways I don't them fired but say for some reason they do get canned. I would take the Vikes OC John DeFilippo as the HC mainly because he would help Allen immensely. Other than that I have no other thoughts of who I'd want because it isn't realistic. Retirement of Wood and Incognito was our elite running team, hard to fill both those spots with equivalent talent given the timeline. But I agree, some decisions on handling the offense are on them, but nothing warranting a firing imo. It's hard to gauge OC's as most current successful OCs either want to stay put or go HC somewhere else. I like the failed HC coming back as a coordinator thread, but definitely do not want Hue Jackson anywhere near this team. Todd Haley I don't know enough about outside of associating his name to Pittsburgh. I don't think we'd need a new HC, but if one were to be hired, please just go with an offensive minded coach... Edited October 30, 2018 by ctk232 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 "Bring me back, and this time let me hire Hue Jackson!" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: I want someone that knows how to build an offense. Someone that can evaluate talent beyond how they fit into a culture. I want someone that can call plays on offense when needed. Good Defensive Coordinators are a dime a dozen. Defenses no longer win in this NFL. They keep you in games, but they do not win them. McDermott is a glorified D-Coordinator, who is over his head as a head coach. Yeah yeah....we all want that. Sounds like you have it all figured out. Edited October 30, 2018 by RaoulDuke79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I give Beane one more year. There should be a marked improvement after 3 years. I don't care what kind of mess a NFL GM walks into. If the team is not improved in 3 years- sayonara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, Nester said: Not a single name named yet... Not shocked at all. Did you really expect anything other than "I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW!" Temper tantrums is all that you get, this post exposes those who really don't follow football and just like making noise! 13 minutes ago, Pete said: I give Beane one more year. There should be a marked improvement after 3 years. I don't care what kind of mess a NFL GM walks into. If the team is not improved in 3 years- sayonara Fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) Can we fire them just so I don’t have to see/hear “McBeane” anymore? I don’t know why but I can’t stand that nickname. Edited October 31, 2018 by billsfan5121 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, jkirchofer said: I want someone that knows how to build an offense. Someone that can evaluate talent beyond how they fit into a culture. I want someone that can call plays on offense when needed. Good Defensive Coordinators are a dime a dozen. Defenses no longer win in this NFL. They keep you in games, but they do not win them. McDermott is a glorified D-Coordinator, who is over his head as a head coach. It seems like you missed the point. We want names, not concepts. Yes, we all want “better”. Who gets us there? I’m sick of knee jerk reactions and fine watching this play out. Every time you start over you go back to zero. I actually thought of starting a similar thread about young, creative offensive minds for OC. (I’m just not generally a thread starter, too many of those out there!) NOT saying fire anyone, and maybe you like Daboll, but who is available to make the offense a weapon. I KNOW, they need talent, but there must be an NFL assistant of college coach who is on the rise. Is Daboll the guy? Who’s the next big thing. I really have no idea, so it was just a question. . 2 hours ago, ctk232 said: Retirement of Wood and Incognito was our elite running team, hard to fill both those spots with equivalent talent given the timeline. But I agree, some decisions on handling the offense are on them, but nothing warranting a firing imo. It's hard to gauge OC's as most current successful OCs either want to stay put or go HC somewhere else. I like the failed HC coming back as a coordinator thread, but definitely do not want Hue Jackson anywhere near this team. Todd Haley I don't know enough about outside of associating his name to Pittsburgh. I don't think we'd need a new HC, but if one were to be hired, please just go with an offensive minded coach... I heard Tony Gonzales on the radio today saying he asked guys around the league when Haley came in and heard he had a huge ego, was a screamer, and Tony decided he wasn’t a guy he wanted to play for. Said he’d rather retire than play for him, so ended up getting traded. I was surprised at his candor, and turned off by Haley. Edited October 31, 2018 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I’m okay either way but I don’t hate the idea of a young, creative, offensive mind to bring them into this millennium. There are things I like and things that I hate about McDermott. Give me Lincoln Riley while retaining Frazier and try to keep the defense going. It is criminal to have a young, talented QB that is surrounded by this talent with no QB coach. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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