Klaista2k Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 We lose our two best lineman and we do nothing to replace them? What the hell is wrong wrong with our front office do they wanna get our quarterback killed!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I think they thought they had enough to get by. Clearly not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Klaista2k said: We lose our two best lineman and we do nothing to replace them? What the hell is wrong wrong with our front office do they wanna get our quarterback killed!? $$$$$ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Bean overpaid for the two #1's.....gave up a slew of 2's and 3's that could have rebuilt some positions of need like OL. imho. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 10M per year to McDermotts friend who hasnt done anything since his rookie year and cannot get off the LOS doesnt help 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Because our head coach is a defensive coach first, so he is more concerned with that side of the ball FIRST. Edited August 26, 2018 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Because our head coach is a defensive coach first, so he is more concerned with that side of the ball FIRST. That side isn’t doing so well either???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Has Juan Castillo been fired yet?? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 He should have been fired at Halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 To point out the obvious, the interior of the O-line can't pass block at all. None of them. We can probably get by with Miller, but we're in big trouble at Center (they both suck) and left guard (ideally, we need Teller to win the job). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: We lose our two best lineman and we do nothing to replace them? What the hell is wrong wrong with our front office do they wanna get our quarterback killed!? The Bills were pretty capped out so they addressed the defensive line with the Star and Murphy signings. The Bills had a boat load of draft picks but mortgaged a lot of them to trade up for Allen and Edumonds. Eating a lot of dead cap to get rid of bad contracts and mortgaging a lot of draft picks to trade up was going to result in some areas of the roster being compromised, the O-line and WR positions being the most compromised parts of the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 You dont need an offence when you throw all your resources into the defence......well thats what it looked like to me with this staff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 You can’t address every position in one off-season. I believe that they tried to MP rove the defense this off-season with the intention of addressing the offense the next off-season via free agency and the draft 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 We went out and signed Ivory, Star and Trent Murphy. Those guys better start doing something come regular season or our FO has some serious questions to answer on why they didn’t allocate some money to the OL - There were FA’s available. Hopefully our OL just needs to gel, but what I saw in the first half was unacceptable for an NFL team. Never seen anything like that in my life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I mean they tried... Just didn't have the money. We signed Newhouse and Bodine... and drafted Tellar. We tried to address it with what we had. Trading up twice in the first round hurt our draft picks we had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 If Teller isnt starting week one there is a Problem. He is the best OG on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 No money, and they needed to draft a franchise QB. They have the most dead money in the NFL this season. This is year two of a tear down / rebuild project. Making the playoffs in the teardown year doesn’t change that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 They did address the OL... Newhouse, Bodine and a 5th round pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I've only been talking about this all offseason...but this board seems to think you can throw in 5 scrubs to start as long as you have a 1st round QB behind your line. I really don't get why fans do this every year. Nobody cares about the O-line until they see how it gets us destroyed. Suddenly everyone cares when they realize our QB is getting smacked around week after week, our RB is getting stuffed in the backfield 1 second after the ball is snapped, and we start racking up loss after loss. It's happened so many times in the past 20 years, it blows my mind. I feel like Bills fans should be intimately acquainted with the importance of a good O-line at this point...especially after we've seen so many QB's get eaten alive behind such garbage ones. 4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: You can’t address every position in one off-season. I believe that they tried to MP rove the defense this off-season with the intention of addressing the offense the next off-season via free agency and the draft You're right, you can't. But since it was clear since the 2017 draft the Bill were loading up to take a QB in the 1st round, perhaps they should've spent some time planning on how to protect him as the #2 priority.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Going to be a long year. Our QBs going to get beat up all year. Going to lead the league in sacks I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On a happier note, Vlad Ducasse is giving skateboard lessons. Call OBD for details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: No money, and they needed to draft a franchise QB. They have the most dead money in the NFL this season. This is year two of a tear down / rebuild project. Making the playoffs in the teardown year doesn’t change that. No money? Where did all that money we gave to Star come from then? Thank god they spent a boatload on him to protect our huge investment at QB right? No? Well at least he's going to be a dominant force on defense right? Hmmm.... about that.... Ok, at least we used our other 1st round pick on someone who will help Allen right?! What? We used it on a 19 year old LB??? Ok....this is starting to look like we had options, but decided O-line wasn't the priority Edited August 27, 2018 by BigDingus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Our Centers are terrible, Hell we should probably give Redmond a chance. At Guard, get rid of Ducasse and bump up Teller & Boettger, Miller might still be alright. Marshall Newhouse has no business being on this team. He sucks. Was Dawkins injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 True but how many more years are they going to put assets into their HC specialty? Hell even after taking Allen it was defense, defense, defense, defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 can’t judgae anything fro this game other than this season is up in the air right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Bean overpaid for the two #1's.....gave up a slew of 2's and 3's that could have rebuilt some positions of need like OL. imho. 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I mean they tried... Just didn't have the money. We signed Newhouse and Bodine... and drafted Tellar. We tried to address it with what we had. Trading up twice in the first round hurt our draft picks we had. Let's look at some facts. Over $115 million dollars of Free Agency contracts were awarded to new Bills players this year. $8 million went to OL Even IF you want to say the Bills used the 2 1st rounder's they had on "other" impact players they passed on drafting OL with the next 3 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: No money? Where did all that money we gave to Star come from then? Thank god they spent a boatload on him to protect our huge investment at QB right? No? Well at least he's going to be a dominant force on defense right? Hmmm.... about that.... Ok, at least we used our other 1st round pick on someone who will help Allen right?! What? We used it on a 19 year old LB??? Ok....this is starting to look like we had options, but decided O-line was the priority Does this surprise you with a D minded coach? He wants to run his defense, we’ll see if it’s any good. They obviously felt they’d wait on the OL until next offseason. It’s not looking good thus far, but who knows ? Bottom line , it wasn’t ALL getting done in one offseason. The plan may have been to redshirt Allen for half the year or more anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said: I think they thought they had enough to get by. Clearly not. today's first half with Allen look no different than last year's Charger game with Peterman, minus the picks. They were a disgrace today. Replace Miller with Teller. Groy hardly shined today. Ducasse got manhandled. And what's really frustrating is these same guys did somewhat decent on run-blocking. Unfortunately none of them have any clue how to pass protect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Bean overpaid for the two #1's.....gave up a slew of 2's and 3's that could have rebuilt some positions of need like OL. imho. We are now getting a glimpse of Beane's team. Just about all of the Whaley guys are gone. Beane has created a lot of holes foolishly giving away picks. Now he will have to build a team on his own. We have not outplayed anyone's first team yet this preseason. This may be a long season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Let's look at some facts. Over $115 million dollars of Free Agency contracts were awarded to new Bills players this year. $8 million went to OL Even IF you want to say the Bills used the 2 1st rounder's they had on "other" impact players they passed on drafting OL with the next 3 picks. So they decided to get a QB and add to the defense this year. Next year will be the O, with a more experienced Allen. This team wasn’t going to be a one year quickie rebuild post Doug Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 We should have. didn't make sense to draft Allen but then address the defense. Should have went mostly offense then defense next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 It's times like these, I like to drown my sorrows in a delicious Wolf Cola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Dawkins would've helped a little. They are a decent run blocking group, which is why they need someone who gets the ball out quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Does this surprise you with a D minded coach? He wants to run his defense, we’ll see if it’s any good. They obviously felt they’d wait on the OL until next offseason. It’s not looking good thus far, but who knows ? Bottom line , it wasn’t ALL getting done in one offseason. The plan may have been to redshirt Allen for half the year or more anyway. A D-minded coach that went into his first draft hellbent on acquiring picks for a QB of the future, then spent the rest of the season making cap room, acquiring more picks, and setting up the franchise for that QB... Then went into his 2nd off season focused on doing what it takes to trade up, again to draft a QB... Then, upon trading away our LT for a high pick, realizing "oh, our 2 other BEST O-linemen just left....now we have more holes....what have I been preparring for again? Oh right, a rookie QB. What does a rookie QB need? Protection? Ehhhh.....f*** it. Let's spend more picks on defense!" NOBODY is saying "ALL" needs to get done in one offseason, but surely, you're not stupid enough to think ignoring the MASSIVE O-line problem while simultaneously going all-in on a rookie QB since day-1 was a smart idea..... If you honestly believe ignoring the O-line, while the best players on our O-line leave, while planning to invest in a 1st round QB is a smart idea, you are absolutely insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Let's look at some facts. Over $115 million dollars of Free Agency contracts were awarded to new Bills players this year. $8 million went to OL Even IF you want to say the Bills used the 2 1st rounder's they had on "other" impact players they passed on drafting OL with the next 3 picks. Yeah and we weren't gonna get a guranteed starter with those next three selections. And we still needed a nickle Corner. At that point in draft your just not gonna draft a starter... That's the point to add depth and that's what we did. Watching games last year it was clear that QB, DT, and WR were our biggest needs. We addressed two of the positions. We had so many holes to fill that you can't fill them all in one offseason. It's impossible. Especially when we traded up in first twice. I'm sure OLine and WR and gonna be addressed in next off-season or at trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: A D-minded coach that went into his first draft hellbent on acquiring picks for a QB of the future, then spent the rest of the season making cap room, acquiring more picks, and setting up the franchise for that QB... Then went into his 2nd off season focused on doing what it takes to trade up, again to draft a QB... Then, upon trading away our LT for a high pick, realizing "oh, our 2 other BEST O-linemen just left....now we have more holes....what have I been preparring for again? Oh right, a rookie QB. What does a rookie QB need? Protection? Ehhhh.....f*** it. Let's spend more picks on defense!" NOBODY is saying "ALL" needs to get done in one offseason, but surely, you're not stupid enough to think ignoring the MASSIVE O-line problem while simultaneously going all-in on a rookie QB since day-1 was a smart idea..... If you honestly believe ignoring the O-line, while the best players on our O-line leave, while planning to invest in a 1st round QB is a smart idea, you are absolutely insane. Wrong! I'm sure Coach McDermott would never say "f*** it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Yeah and we weren't gonna get a guranteed starter with those next three selections. And we still needed a nickle Corner. At that point in draft your just not gonna draft a starter... That's the point to add depth and that's what we did. Watching games last year it was clear that QB, DT, and WR were our biggest needs. We addressed two of the positions. We had so many holes to fill that you can't fill them all in one offseason. It's impossible. Especially when we traded up in first twice. I'm sure OLine and WR and gonna be addressed in next off-season or at trade deadline. Hold on Kmart, don't get mad at me. I've been saying in every OL thread this offseason that Beane and McDermott have chose not to address the OL situation at all this year. I also said if the OL "blows" which causes the entire offense to play bad then so be it. I got replies (and Dingus did too because both of us talk a lot about the OL) like: Conor McDermott is great and will be the starting RT. Miller is going to have a breakout year at LG. etc. Click on the Spotrac link to see how low at #32 the Bills OL really is, if you want to. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) I do think the OL will perform better come regular season. -For one thing, we’ll be running the ball more. -Hopefully the OL gels a bit more over the coming weeks leading up to Game 1. -Daboll can gameplan to hide weaknesses, instead of being in evaluation mode. -Dawkins and Shady will help. That being said... That first half today drained about 90% of my optimism for this season. Now we get to hold our breath and hope the OL isn’t a dumpster fire and preseason Peterman is the real Peterman, not SD Nate. We’ll know soon enough with Baltimore, San Diego and Minnesota defenses out the gate. Biggest worry - The “up the gut” pressure needs to get fixed and I don’t know how you do that without changing personnel or having said personnel man up. Edited August 27, 2018 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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