JPL7 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) Top LB's of all-time Though, unless I missed it, The Biscuit is not in the Pro Football HOF. Though, if my memory serves me right, he is in the college HOF, right? The rankings are just laughable... Singletary and Lambert outside of the top 10?? Derrick Thomas # 2? Ha! Fun read though. Edited May 25, 2018 by JPL7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Derrick Thomas at #2 isn’t a stretch IMO. I agree Singletary should be higher along with Ray Lewis and Junior Seau. I would probably have Lewis #2 over Thomas but Thomas would still be top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Derrick Thomas at #2 isn’t a stretch IMO. I agree Singletary should be higher along with Ray Lewis and Junior Seau. I would probably have Lewis #2 over Thomas but Thomas would still be top 5. He was taken off the field in the AFC Championship game because he was getting trucked play after play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Ray Lewis not in the top 5 is a crime. He’s number 2 imo. Singletary should also be top 10. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: He was taken off the field in the AFC Championship game because he was getting trucked play after play... how do you guys remember all this stuff ? I hardly recall last year. and i don't just mean the Bills season ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 It also said Bennett is in the HoF. Did I miss something? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 34 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: He was taken off the field in the AFC Championship game because he was getting trucked play after play... Shouldn’t he be evaluated on his entire body of work and career? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, NewEra said: Ray Lewis not in the top 5 is a crime. He’s number 2 imo. Singletary should also be top 10. Not the first time I’ve heard Ray Lewis and crime mentioned in the same sentence ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Shouldn’t he be evaluated on his entire body of work and career? I'm not saying he wasn't a great player but I doubt if another player on that list was EVER taken off the field in such an important game because he was getting manhandled. 36 minutes ago, NewEra said: Ray Lewis not in the top 5 is a crime. I think he's probably third behind Butkus. Butkus was just such a monster in his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Derrick Thomas at #2 isn’t a stretch IMO. I agree Singletary should be higher along with Ray Lewis and Junior Seau. I would probably have Lewis #2 over Thomas but Thomas would still be top 5. With all due respect, no way in hell is Derrick Thomas a #2 LB of all time. Shut, ZACH Thomas was as good as Derrick. Just my opinion, but jeesh Not even top 10 Edited May 25, 2018 by BuffAlone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Although I think it's fair he never made the Hall of Fame...it's an absolute crime Biscuit hasn't been put on the Wall of Fame yet at New Era...He was right up there with Kelly, Bruce, Thurman and Andre as a face of the franchise in his playing days but as years have passed it seems like most have forgotten about the impact he had during the glory years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 50 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: It also said Bennett is in the HoF. Did I miss something? I caught that also. No, he is not in the HOF. I honestly don't think Gil researches or has anyone proof read his stuff anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Ray Lewis not in the top 5 is a crime. He’s number 2 imo. Singletary should also be top 10. That’s what jumped out to me. Ray Lewis belongs at 2 or 3. Good to see Bennett and Fletcher recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfanlc Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Don't let the chief's hate blind you guys. Dt was one of the greatest lbs of all time. Had he lived longer his records would be astronomical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Lambert got all the media hype but Ham got the respect of coaches and players, and this list as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Obviously it's incredibly subjective, but I agree with those taking issue with Thomas as #2. Maybe top 10... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chiefs-suspend-lb-derrick-thomas/ "Although he signed a five-year, $27 million contract extension before last season, Thomas' role this year has been reduced to pass-rushing duties because he is so ineffective against the run." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Thomas was too much of a pass rushing specialist (and he was fantastic at that) to be regarded #2 best all around LB of all time! No, Biscuit (not "the" Biscuit) is not in the HOF. Agree Singletary should be way up there. Aside from being a great LB, the guy is the personification of "leader", "warrior", and "team before self". I dream of having a Bills roster filled with Singletary types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Lewis and singletary not in top 10 is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 IMO Chris Spielman should've been ranked higher than he was ... He spent a couple of years with the Bills ... Awesome player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfanlc Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 So dt went to 9 pro bowls in his first 9 seasons. Had that ever been done before? And not that good of a lb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bfanlc said: Don't let the chief's hate blind you guys. Dt was one of the greatest lbs of all time. Had he lived longer his records would be astronomical. I don't think it's 'Chiefs Hate' and RIP DT, but he was marginal against the run. I don't recall him dropping back against the pass much. His 1 INT in 11 seasons would help back this up. He did force 40 or so fumbles, but I think a lot of those were sack fumbles, not sure. Lastly DT did play 11 seasons, not sure how many seasons he had left. A fine pass rusher, one of the best pass rushing LBs this side of Lawrence Taylor, but LT was pretty nasty against the run too. DT's FF and FR count add to his legacy, and he deserves a place on this list. Biscuit deserves to be noted among the best too. He was above average at everything, but never stood out at any one thing, which is why I don't think he is in the HOF. Biscuits numbers were never eye opening, but his big plays almost always came at critical times. Ray Lewis is top 3-5 IMO. Edited May 26, 2018 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Not to mention that the #1 LB was playing high on cocaine his entire career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Not the first time I’ve heard Ray Lewis and crime mentioned in the same sentence ? Come on. It was only circumstantial evidence, fortunately for Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) Don't care about rankings. Just know watching the Bills trio of Mike Stratton, Harry Jacobs and John Tracey were the 1st great ones I saw growing up. Edited May 26, 2018 by Ifartalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 If Ray Lewis, Singletary and Urlacher aren’t in the top 10 for greatest LB’s that’s not right. I will give that some of the older guys belong In there. I’ve been watching football for 30 years at a high level. Those three LB’s are Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: He was taken off the field in the AFC Championship game because he was getting trucked play after play... Agreed. He's still top 10, but he wasn't good enough against the run to be considered #2 of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Ifartalot said: Don't care about rankings. Just know watching the Bills trio of Mike Stratton, Harry Jacobs and John Tracey were the 1st great ones I saw growing up. With a name like “Ifartalot” I envisioned you to be much younger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Stratton, Jacobs, and Tracy were my childhood idols. Holy crap; I'm old' get out of my yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 FWIW, -which is nothing, I’ve contended Biscuit is HOF worthy since his playing days. IMO, he checks all the boxes required. Multiple PB’s, consistent excellence through a long career, 6 Conference Championship Games, 5 Super Bowls and changed the game from LOLB position. Hated when he went to Atlanta. I feel like he fell off the face of the earth with that move, though he continued to perform at a very high level. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 It’s cool we had two with Spielman as the other, and no Bennett is not in the HOF, but I hope he gets in someday. Honorable mention to Bryce Paup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joevan Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 No Mike Curtis? He was the nastiest guy not named Butkis. Worthy alone for his shot on a fan running around back in the early 1970's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: With a name like “Ifartalot” I envisioned you to be much younger... .....dIdn't fart much when I was younger. 4 hours ago, BobDVA said: Stratton, Jacobs, and Tracy were my childhood idols. Holy crap; I'm old' get out of my yard. My father and his friends had seasons tickets in the '60's. Went to games with him starting in '66 when I was 8. Watched every Bills away game and listened to every home game on the radio through my teens. I'm sure you remember, home games weren't allowed to be televised then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I had to look that up....he's not in the Hall of Fame, but he is in the college football hall of fame. I still get upset when I think about him leaving us for the Falcons, after saying he wasn't' leaving. I remember calling him Cornelius Benedict Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 5:54 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Derrick Thomas at #2 isn’t a stretch IMO... Ray Lewis and LT have to be top 2 given this, yes it is a stretch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 6:15 PM, 3rdand12 said: how do you guys remember all this stuff ? I hardly recall last year. and i don't just mean the Bills season ! I didn't drink as much back then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 22. Cornelius Bennett Buffalo Bills, 1987-1995; Atlanta Falcons, 1996-1998; Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2000 » Voted to five Pro Bowls, First Team All-Pro once » Recorded 71.5 career sacks» Enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Man, I missed him being enshrined into the Hall of Fame. I checked out of the NFL for a while through the lean years of the Bills in the 2000’s-2017. Did he go in as a Colt or Falcon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Just my two cents but I'd take Willis, Lewis, or Urlacher over Derrick Thomas or Derrick Brooks on any day that ends in Y. I'm not trying to argue Darryl Talley onto that list but I think he was a very good LB and in many ways as valuable as Bennet ever was. PS with the love for pass rushers where is Kevin Greene? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 16 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s cool we had two with Spielman as the other, and no Bennett is not in the HOF, but I hope he gets in someday. Honorable mention to Bryce Paup. Fletcher is on that list, he was ran out of town for chiseled chin Poz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 6:43 PM, frostbitmic said: IMO Chris Spielman should've been ranked higher than he was ... He spent a couple of years with the Bills ... Awesome player. I was just about to post this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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