mileena Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I am curious: do Zay Jones and Cyrus Kouandjio hang out a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: I’m sorry but this was an absolute TERRIBLE draft pick by McDermott. Got sweet talked into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Does anyone have a screen grab of that Sammy tweet? Sent my brother a text because he reminded me of some people we know and I know the gist of it... but the exact quote would be so much better Zay couldn't catch passes, so I guess he is catching felonies now. SMH. 5 hours ago, Threedollabills said: Yeah what did Sammy say? See my post above. Edited March 21, 2018 by mileena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 TMZ just posted another video showing Jesus pacing back and forth outside the hotel for a few minutes yelling, “Who all’s with me? Is anyone - ANYONE - in there coming with me? None of y’all got my back???” And then he shrugs and drives off into the LA night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'm just surprised something from zay was actually "caught" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 59 minutes ago, sleeby said: Nudity and LSD absolutely. See 60s culture. Plenty of grateful dead anecdotes on the matter. Europe 72 concerts in Germany being some.amusing ones - the German ushers were dosed and taking off their clothes even. Fired em all and then the next night the new crew had the same happen. Its like Peter Griffin on ecstasy. “Oh Brian... your fur it’s so soft and your ears they’re like DOG EARS.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Shameful.......just shameful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Scary. Hopefully he's OK. Seems like a good kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Kuandjio got released outright for this type of thing after having a good season. Will be interesting to see how this turns out. Certainly will face some type of suspension for the felony and if they find drugs in his system. Might honestly be the best for him to take a few weeks when the season kicks off to get whatever helps he needs beyond short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Didn't see this posted....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 hours ago, row_33 said: Oh it could be just that, had Patriot Chandler Jones bug out last year at a police station.... That was the synthetic stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Spice? I thought the same thing. This incident is so bizarre that I actually hope it's a chemically-induced aberration as opposed to mental illness. For the kid's own sake. Football is at best a secondary consideration in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I think he smoked it before every game this season. I’ve never seen a rookie who gave me less hope for his future than this clown. For a player with so much talent you could see something was not right, dropped passes and lack of concentration the guy looked like a bust. Then his father announces he played the season injured, which looks now like a cover for drug problem. I would cut him ASAP so he can fix himself and he does not spread his problem to other young Bills players on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Full disclosure purposes .. I was double thumbs up for the Zay pick last year as my daughter goes to ECU and I saw many of his games ... so given the longer history than most on this board ... I wish him the best first and foremost ... you go from watching the Sabres (his first hockey game) and selling season tickets at OBD in the past few weeks ... to this .. that was truly a bad scene and obviously some form of hallucination drug enhanced ... him getting better is the most important .. but this event is obviously a 1-4 game suspension issue per the NFL code of conduct policy correct? This may certainly have influence on the pick priorities come draft time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 He’s definitely worth a late 2nd. Maybe a 3rd after the felony.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 hours ago, MtlBillsFan said: Cut him. Sign Hurns. You might want to go get an x-ray see if you still have a heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, WideRightRevenge said: Full disclosure purposes .. I was double thumbs up for the Zay pick last year as my daughter goes to ECU and I saw many of his games ... so given the longer history than most on this board ... I wish him the best first and foremost ... you go from watching the Sabres (his first hockey game) and selling season tickets at OBD in the past few weeks ... to this .. that was truly a bad scene and obviously some form of hallucination drug enhanced ... him getting better is the most important .. but this event is obviously a 1-4 game suspension issue per the NFL code of conduct policy correct? This may certainly have influence on the pick priorities come draft time. Probably a 1 game suspension for personal conduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) what an idiot hard to stop someone hell bent on self harm having said that he needs to enter a 30-90 day rehabilitation treatment facility i'd still give him a chance to stay with team assuming he gets help Edited March 21, 2018 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, papazoid said: what an idiot hard to stop someone hell bent on self harm having said that he needs to enter a 30-90 day rehabilitation treatment facility i'd still give him a chance to stay with team assuming he gets help That’s pretty much my thoughts. By all accounts (people speaking out who know him) he’s a great kid. Probably made a mistake with some drugs. If it’s truly a first offense and not a pattern of behavior, I do make sure he gets help but I don’t cut him at this time especially if he’s receptive to that help. Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 He was high on bath salts and had a flashback to Mc Coach's pre game motivational speech in the locker room vs the chiefs. Well, now we know players will run through walls for him!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, papazoid said: what an idiot hard to stop someone hell bent on self harm having said that he needs to enter a 30-90 day rehabilitation treatment facility i'd still give him a chance to stay with team assuming he gets help How about just wishing the kid to get WELL and to get all the HELP he needs ? SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Maybe he should be playing defense did you see the Swim move he put on his brother... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Obviously its a mental health issue as opposed to a drug issue. And to all those lauging at or blaming the kid, schizophrenic episodes are scary, serious, and beyond the suffer's control.They can be brought under control with meds, but I doubt that he ever suits up in a bills uniform again. The NFL has a pretty bad record when it comes to mental illness and there's lots of misinformation (see comments above) out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I hope he gets whatever it is demonizing him under control but to say he is not a liability after this is burying ones head in the sand. Zay’s mental health and safety of Bills employees, to include players, comes first. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Obviously its a mental health issue as opposed to a drug issue. And to all those lauging at or blaming the kid, schizophrenic episodes are scary, serious, and beyond the suffer's control.They can be brought under control with meds, but I doubt that he ever suits up in a bills uniform again. The NFL has a pretty bad record when it comes to mental illness and there's lots of misinformation (see comments above) out there. Very well said although Im not certain it is not drug related yet. But I agree with you whole heartedly that people still lack sympathy for people with mental illness when it is indeed beyond their control. Do we pick on physically and mentally handicapped people for their disabilities? Or say someone should be punished for being in a wheel chair? Mental illness is an illness because it is beyond a persons control. When people see an episode like this they approach it as if Zay was in his right frame of mind. People don't behave like that unless they are going through some sort of mental episode. Have some compassion everyone. Edited March 21, 2018 by Estelle Getty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Obviously its a mental health issue as opposed to a drug issue. And to all those lauging at or blaming the kid, schizophrenic episodes are scary, serious, and beyond the suffer's control.They can be brought under control with meds, but I doubt that he ever suits up in a bills uniform again. The NFL has a pretty bad record when it comes to mental illness and there's lots of misinformation (see comments above) out there. Is it obvious? It could easily be a bout with synthetic marijuana. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: He's not the wide receivers coach anymore. They need to distance themselves from Zay and cut him (no pun intended). Why do you automatically go to this? If it is a metal health issue, and not a drug issue, they should use their vast resources, as a large business, to help the kid. If it is a mental health issue, why would you automatically distance yourself from him, instead of helping him? That's the mentality that leads to tragedy in this society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Why do you automatically go to this? If it is a metal health issue, and not a drug issue, they should use their vast resources, as a large business, to help the kid. If it is a mental health issue, why would you automatically distance yourself from him, instead of helping him? That's the mentality that leads to tragedy in this society. Right. At my company (maybe all companies) it’s treated as a disability under ADA and people aren’t “fired” for it. I assume that Zay would be given treatment and a chance to resume his career when he’s ready. Both Brandon Marshall and Richie Incignito went to rehab for mental illness and are now medicated and back in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Is it obvious? It could easily be a bout with synthetic marijuana. Yes, who really knows? I’ve gone made out of my way to wish Zay all the best. However, everything about this points to nasty drugs, and that would be a poor decision for a multi millionaire to make. It’s a bit strange that his “mental illness” would finally manifest itself at 11:30pm in Los Angeles California during the off-season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Why do you automatically go to this? If it is a metal health issue, and not a drug issue, they should use their vast resources, as a large business, to help the kid. If it is a mental health issue, why would you automatically distance yourself from him, instead of helping him? That's the mentality that leads to tragedy in this society. I'm assuming he was on synthetic weed or some other drug. If it's a legitimate mental health issue then you're absolutely right. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Yes, who really knows? I’ve gone made out of my way to wish Zay all the best. However, everything about this points to nasty drugs, and that would be a poor decision for a multi millionaire to make. It’s a bit strange that his “mental illness” would finally manifest itself at 11:30pm in Los Angeles California during the off-season. I agree i think it’s more likely it’s a drug incident. Either way whether it’s mental illness or drugs, I’m surprised people think his career is over. Numerous examples on both sides of players still in the league after one of these episodes. As I said I would be surprised if the Bills even cut him unless there is a pattern of this behavior with drugs that we are unaware of. Edited March 21, 2018 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Is it obvious? It could easily be a bout with synthetic marijuana. Agreed. I'm hoping for more information on it. What if it's a combination of both? What if he had undiagnosed mental illness, and some form of recreational drug triggered it into overdrive? Seeing the video, I'm going to say it comes down to 3 things: 1) bad reaction to drug use alone. In this case, I think the Bills should handle it as they see fit, maybe give the guy one more zero tolerance chance, and help him if it's a rehab situation, he's young and mistakes happen, but give him a very short leash. 2) mental health break. Could be a nervous breakdown, or it could be an underlying mental illness. That wasn't a typical set of behavior. The Bills should help him through it and hopefully he can stabilize himself. 3) combination of both, a recreational drug caused this episode, and in that case, I still think the bills should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: At least his shoulder looks healed. #PositiveThoughts RIDICULOUS!!!!! Thanks for making me spit out my delicious chai latte from Caribou Coffee then proceed to regurgitate the rest of it from convulse-laughing!!! HAHAHAHHAHA that's a way to start a day!!! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Zay it isn't true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Per Ian Rapoport: "From last night: The facility Jones is being held in, per the inmate report, is a hospital ward of the jail where suspects are taken for medical and/or psychiatric attention." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Obviously its a mental health issue as opposed to a drug issue. And to all those lauging at or blaming the kid, schizophrenic episodes are scary, serious, and beyond the suffer's control.They can be brought under control with meds, but I doubt that he ever suits up in a bills uniform again. The NFL has a pretty bad record when it comes to mental illness and there's lots of misinformation (see comments above) out there. That’s the least obvious thing it could be. Certainly a freak out on drugs is more likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SmokinES3 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: Obviously its a mental health issue as opposed to a drug issue. And to all those lauging at or blaming the kid, schizophrenic episodes are scary, serious, and beyond the suffer's control.They can be brought under control with meds, but I doubt that he ever suits up in a bills uniform again. The NFL has a pretty bad record when it comes to mental illness and there's lots of misinformation (see comments above) out there. Obviously you aren't familiar with the effects of certain hallucinogenic drugs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Drugs can contribute to manic episodes, but they don't directly trigger them. Other factors like stress, lack of sleep, and genetics are just as likely to be contributing factors. If he tried to jump out a window, he's manic, and weed doesn't cause that all by itself. If it did, it would not be legalized in particular areas for recreational use. Edited March 21, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I'm assuming he was on synthetic weed or some other drug. If it's a legitimate mental health issue then you're absolutely right. We'll see. I work in mental health. Getting my Masters in Voc Rehab at UB. This looks like drugs to me, but people can do some whacky stuff if they stop taking their meds. If I was to bet on it, I'd say drugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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