BillsfaninChicago Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I know he is an infamous figure but he does give some insights into Ralph in the 60’s and 70’s in his first interview since getting out of prison. The qoute where he says Ralph declared he didn’t want a championship that would mean giving all the players a raise is believable. http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/16/the-o-j-simpson-interview-on-prison-retirement-and-football/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, Leonhart2017 said: I know he is an infamous figure but he does give some insights into Ralph in the 60’s and 70’s in his first interview since getting out of prison. The qoute where he says Ralph declared he didn’t want a championship that would mean giving all the players a raise is believable. http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/16/the-o-j-simpson-interview-on-prison-retirement-and-football/ I believe him here. I have mixed feelings about Ralph as an owner...most Bills fans should 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 OJ seems like an honest guy 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: OJ seems like an honest guy Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: I believe him here. I have mixed feelings about Ralph as an owner...most Bills fans should Shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hypothetically speaking... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: OJ seems like an honest guy Hahahahahahaha I thought the same thing but at this point I think he doesn’t have many reasons to lie about his experience with the Bills organization nearly 50 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I think OJ killed people. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 He may still locate the "real killers" at a golf course.....the search continues..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 'That time I killed 2 people' was off-limits in the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I'll raise a glass to Ralph right now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 It actually makes sense what OJ is saying about Ralph. Sports owners from the early days of the major professional leagues ran the teams like a business because the team was the major source of income and the teams could rarely lose money and maintain operation. Ralph being in a smaller market and coming from that mentality probably did run the team like a business. It wasn't until bigger TV and radio deals emerged that teams were sold to people who made millions and eventually billions in other businesses and basically those owners basically ran those teams like toys devoid of year to year losses for the most part. Modern ownership groups are 1-2 billionaires and a bunch of millionaire minority investors who run the teams as a long-term investment (Where the value of the team when sold again is where the money is made not the year to year operations) or once again it is a billionaire who cashed out on another business and is now having fun. Older sports owners cared about the bottom line, they had to make money that year, a loss revenue wise meant that the owner's personal finances could be in jeopardy. Ralph seemingly was cut from that grain of sports ownership. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Does anyone really listen to what OJ says anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: It actually makes sense what OJ is saying about Ralph. Sports owners from the early days of the major professional leagues ran the teams like a business because the team was the major source of income and the teams could rarely lose money and maintain operation. Ralph being in a smaller market and coming from that mentality probably did run the team like a business. It wasn't until bigger TV and radio deals emerged that teams were sold to people who made millions and eventually billions in other businesses and basically those owners basically ran those teams like toys devoid of year to year losses for the most part. Modern ownership groups are 1-2 billionaires and a bunch of millionaire minority investors who run the teams as a long-term investment (Where the value of the team when sold again is where the money is made not the year to year operations) or once again it is a billionaire who cashed out on another business and is now having fun. Older sports owners cared about the bottom line, they had to make money that year, a loss revenue wise meant that the owner's personal finances could be in jeopardy. Ralph seemingly was cut from that grain of sports ownership. That is an excellent point possibly without Ralph’s shrewdness and business sense there would not be an AFL-NFL merger let alone a Bills team today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I’ll mention again, I’m good with him coming off the wall. In case anyone was wondering. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: I believe him here. I have mixed feelings about Ralph as an owner...most Bills fans should Uhhh...he is in the HOF and our greatest owner ever. He kept the Bills in Buffalo insteadof taking more money by moving elsewhere . He saved the Oakland Raiders. Why would you trash a Buffalo icon? 34 minutes ago, Leonhart2017 said: I know he is an infamous figure but he does give some insights into Ralph in the 60’s and 70’s in his first interview since getting out of prison. The qoute where he says Ralph declared he didn’t want a championship that would mean giving all the players a raise is believable. http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/16/the-o-j-simpson-interview-on-prison-retirement-and-football/ That quote is a lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I never idolized any actors, musicians, astronauts, basketball or baseball players as a kid. I only ever had one idol growing up: OJ Simpson. His amazing talent on the field was matched by his class off it. Now I can't stand the turd. Kind of cool, I suppose, that Tim Graham and the BN landed an interview with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Say what you will, it was a good read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Please remove his name from the wall. Don't give me this bull "oh, it's based on his play" crap. He's not to be looked up to at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Leonhart2017 said: That is an excellent point possibly without Ralph’s shrewdness and business sense there would not be an AFL-NFL merger let alone a Bills team today. OJ quote from the article: "Me, being a 22-year-old kid, I had never heard anybody in athletics talk that way. That's when it dawned on me this guy is all about the business and not about the game. You knew just from what you read every day in L.A. that Carroll Rosenbloom was a competitor. I knew, growing up in San Francisco, Al Davis was a competitor." If not for Ralph Wilson pragmatism and giving Al Davis a loan to keep the Oakland Raiders afloat................................ oh I forgot, it's all about OJ to OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Ralph was cheap back there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Leonhart2017 said: That is an excellent point possibly without Ralph’s shrewdness and business sense there would not be an AFL-NFL merger let alone a Bills team today. Wilson was a smart and shrewd businessman when it came to the AFL, he actually helped run the league more like owners today where year to year losses weren't the biggest deal as long as the league sustained growth and more importantly took market share from the NFL. Ralph pushed the overall health of the league as his goal was more important than making money right away. His goal of establishing a merger with the NFL was very clear in my mind. I don't know why that after he got the merger he pretty much stopped running the team in such a macro manner and pretty much ran it as though if one season where he lost money would ruin him. It was kind of odd with the way he helped run the AFL. But I guess he figured that once he had gotten to the NFL the team needed to be fiscally solvent to remain in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Buffalo News is over. Good job Tim Graham and and Josh Barnett. You finished it off. Its very sad. There is being a journalist, and then there is being empty inside. Wow. Im stunned that TBN would sink so low. I should have known with your Sully and your Bucky and your lazy , lazy reporting. Oh well stupid me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I never idolized any actors, musicians, astronauts, basketball or baseball players as a kid. I only ever had one idol growing up: OJ Simpson. His amazing talent on the field was matched by his class off it. Now I can't stand the turd. Kind of cool, I suppose, that Tim Graham and the BN landed an interview with him. I went to every home game when he ran for 2000 in '73, had a big poster of him on my wall. I wouldn't say he was my idol, but I was a big fan. Now I think it is an embarrassment that he is on the wall. What a piece of **** he turned out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I see OJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: OJ seems like an honest guy Who murdered two people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Still, "the Juice" to me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 That armed robbery conviction really turned me off to the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Luka said: Hypothetically speaking... I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 "So then I took the knife from Mr. Wilson.....and then I don't remember what happened. I blacked out. So much blood. Then Mr. Wilson said 'OJ we gotta get outta here'".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: I know he is an infamous figure but he does give some insights into Ralph in the 60’s and 70’s in his first interview since getting out of prison. The qoute where he says Ralph declared he didn’t want a championship that would mean giving all the players a raise is believable. http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/16/the-o-j-simpson-interview-on-prison-retirement-and-football/ Thanks Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 He was the greatest football player I ever saw. The first year Rich Stadium opened, I was a freshman at UB and I got a job as a vendor at the stadium. That was 1973, the year he broke 2000 yards in 14 games. There were times when he was just unstoppable. I think he did kill his wife and her boyfriend. How to reconcile those is a puzzle. I no longer have the sense of honor that I had for him, as a trailblazing black man who transcended sports. I respect him as an athlete and that's all. So maybe my answer is not to reconcile those facts at all. I just acknowledge they're two aspects of a single person,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Utah John said: He was the greatest football player I ever saw. The first year Rich Stadium opened, I was a freshman at UB and I got a job as a vendor at the stadium. That was 1973, the year he broke 2000 yards in 14 games. There were times when he was just unstoppable. I think he did kill his wife and her boyfriend. How to reconcile those is a puzzle. I no longer have the sense of honor that I had for him, as a trailblazing black man who transcended sports. I respect him as an athlete and that's all. So maybe my answer is not to reconcile those facts at all. I just acknowledge they're two aspects of a single person,. I have no idea why people can't understand that on one hand, OJ was a tremendous sports hero in his day and one of the best few Bills of all time...and on the other, a scumbag who brutally murdered two people. Humans are complex creatures and most are filled with contradictions. I don't recall anyone ever saying that "The Wall" exists to honor well-rounded human beings in all aspects of their lives. I'm pretty sure it exists to stand witness to the greatest Buffalo Bill football players of all time. You can't change history; OJ belongs on the Wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Who murdered two people. Sarcasm went right over that head of yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I have no idea why people can't understand that on one hand, OJ was a tremendous sports hero in his day and one of the best few Bills of all time...and on the other, a scumbag who brutally murdered two people. Humans are complex creatures and most are filled with contradictions. I don't recall anyone ever saying that "The Wall" exists to honor well-rounded human beings in all aspects of their lives. I'm pretty sure it exists to stand witness to the greatest Buffalo Bill football players of all time. You can't change history; OJ belongs on the Wall. No he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I think it was a good "get" and interesting reading. However if they do ever let him come to a game, it will be a circus. That could also happen if the Bills play the Las Vegas Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, 145B4IDIE said: Does anyone really listen to what OJ says anymore? I sure don't. I wish Jimbo was feeling better..his takes on possible moves are always solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 why cant OJ just fade away already? he shouldnt be given the time of day at this point. although, when i heard he believes he has CTE, didnt surprise me. makes you wonder if the violent outbursts/lack of control associated with the disease played a role in his past actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 All these ad hominem attacks here. What’s funny is I think most people would agree with what he said yet since oj said it it’s bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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