KW95 - JA17 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I honestly think that you can only move on from Tyrod if it is a substantial upgrade or a rookie with promise. A slight upgrade or lateral move like Alex Smith would not work, why give up assets and cap space to be marginally better at QB? Even if they draft a rookie I would still want Tyrod on the roster. Peterman is ass and they shouldn't force a rookie into action if that rookie can't beat out Tyrod. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod let Tyrod hang in there for one more year and slowly build up the talent on the team around a young promising QB who can learn a system and get use to being a pro for awhile. Did you watch the Game today. Did you watch the Jets game, Did you watch the Saints game? You can move on from TT at anytime. No big loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I honestly think that you can only move on from Tyrod if it is a substantial upgrade or a rookie with promise. A slight upgrade or lateral move like Alex Smith would not work, why give up assets and cap space to be marginally better at QB? Even if they draft a rookie I would still want Tyrod on the roster. Peterman is ass and they shouldn't force a rookie into action if that rookie can't beat out Tyrod. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod let Tyrod hang in there for one more year and slowly build up the talent on the team around a young promising QB who can learn a system and get use to being a pro for awhile. Just !@#$ing stop with this ****! Tyrod is not good and was on full display all !@#$ing year long. It's not real difficult to replace a **** QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, racketmaster said: Playing on one leg, he is not a threat right now Looked like he was using both legs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: tired of not being able to score points...we need new blood - new OC, new QB and a new, modern scheme You might need a new head coach to get all that. Edited January 7, 2018 by Perry Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, PeterGriffin said: Just !@#$ing stop with this ****! Tyrod is not good and was on full display all !@#$ing year long. It's not real difficult to replace a **** QB. Its really tough to replace to 2700 passing yards and 14 TDs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Dude, I don’t like TT the QB. I do respect the man. The guy looks like he might have been knocked out cold not that long ago, and has a pretty serious concussion. Can we we hold off on this. It’s a fine discussion. It’s an absolute trash time to start it. Let’s keep this place classy. Nope sucks to see him hurt is a nice guy. But nope not shelving this discussion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Classy guy but bad QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 You know when we had a consistent playoff team we had a great offense. Maybe give that a try. Goodbye TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Tyrod is who he is. I wish he saw it that way, and would axcept a backup roll and salary restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Draft one please. Don’t go looking at other team’s backups or aging vets. I agree I want a rookie Qb I have had it with other teams castoffs. Leave the junk picking to Mike Wolf and Frank Fritz. on American Pickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I honestly think that you can only move on from Tyrod if it is a substantial upgrade or a rookie with promise. A slight upgrade or lateral move like Alex Smith would not work, why give up assets and cap space to be marginally better at QB? Even if they draft a rookie I would still want Tyrod on the roster. Peterman is ass and they shouldn't force a rookie into action if that rookie can't beat out Tyrod. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod let Tyrod hang in there for one more year and slowly build up the talent on the team around a young promising QB who can learn a system and get use to being a pro for awhile. Let it and him go. His 4th qtr.'s are horrendous. That alone means the Bills will go with the following. 1. Bills will draft the best QB they can without giving up 3 1st rounders. 2. They will get someone else in FA (who remains to be seen) 3. I also think Peterman will be gone too. Find another 1-2 guy to be the 3rd string. Let this TT QB experiment go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I honestly think that you can only move on from Tyrod if it is a substantial upgrade or a rookie with promise. A slight upgrade or lateral move like Alex Smith would not work, why give up assets and cap space to be marginally better at QB? Even if they draft a rookie I would still want Tyrod on the roster. Peterman is ass and they shouldn't force a rookie into action if that rookie can't beat out Tyrod. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod let Tyrod hang in there for one more year and slowly build up the talent on the team around a young promising QB who can learn a system and get use to being a pro for awhile. I willing to take a one year step back at QB for the long term development of real modern competent offense. The D did all they could this year. they were let down by the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I honestly think that you can only move on from Tyrod if it is a substantial upgrade or a rookie with promise. A slight upgrade or lateral move like Alex Smith would not work, why give up assets and cap space to be marginally better at QB? Even if they draft a rookie I would still want Tyrod on the roster. Peterman is ass and they shouldn't force a rookie into action if that rookie can't beat out Tyrod. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod let Tyrod hang in there for one more year and slowly build up the talent on the team around a young promising QB who can learn a system and get use to being a pro for awhile. Lucky for us, he's one of the worst in the league so it won't be hard to upgrade. A lateral move like Alex Smith? You're mental. Tyrod makes Alex Smith look like Dan Marino. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I don't hate Taylor..but he is what he is...an average to slightly below average starting QB. Can you win some games with him...maybe a playoff game? Sure, but to be a true superbowl contender, you need better. I'll take any new guys because I know what I have now is not good enough. If you rank in the low 20's in passing yards for 3 season are you really a little below average? Taylor !@#$ing sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hopefully moving on from Taylor AND Dennison. The main 2 reasons this game was lost today IMO. Defense let Bortles get out of hand a with the scrambling some and dropped 2 INTs, but overall gave the offense PLENTY of chances. This falls on the OC and Taylor all the way IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'm just so sick of TT dumping the ball off on every play...........granted, he may not have his WR's open downfield, but for gods sakes man, at least toss it up and let your receivers make a play. Between, TT and Dennison, our O is a lost cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 At least the Tyrod honeymoon is over after 1 week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Draft a QB. Good luck to Tyrod wherever he ends up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: This is what seems to be the popular choice. I would be ok with that depending on what we give up. He threw for 4000 yards and only had I think one more INT than Taylor. Andy Reid makes average guys look good. We don't have Andy Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, chef4131 said: based on todays performance by TT I believe it will be easy for the Bills to move on from him, of course we need to find someone BUH BYE !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: Alex Smith I think the Cards will pick him up or even the steelers (i believe ronchiberger will announce his retirement after the season)...but with that being said if they can persuade him to come to buffalo and play im okay with that....but they still need to take a QB in the draft if they like one.....oh and new friggin receivers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Hopefully moving on from Taylor AND Dennison. The main 2 reasons this game was lost today IMO. Defense let Bortles get out of hand a with the scrambling some and dropped 2 INTs, but overall gave the offense PLENTY of chances. This falls on the OC and Taylor all the way IMO I wish I could agree with this 10X because it hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Had a TD on the first play of the final drive. Went to shady INC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'm changing my position and I am admitting that I was completely WRONG about Tyrod Taylor, I do not want him back here under any circumstances. Send KC a 3rd for Alex Smith and draft Mason Rudolph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, /dev/null said: looks like the tyrod taylor era ends with an injury. hope you're happy haters Weird that Kelly's Career ended the exact same way against the same team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, KW95 said: Did you watch the Game today. Did you watch the Jets game, Did you watch the Saints game? You can move on from TT at anytime. No big loss. I have been watching all season, I have also seen who the Bills were throwing out at QB for the past 14 years before then. Although you could do a lot better than Tyrod I think you can do much much worse. If the choice is Alex Smith or Tyrod Taylor, a 2nd round pick, and 4.5 million dollars in cap space give me the latter. I would rather draft a rookie and have him beat out Tyrod. Having a decent QB such as Tyrod is a luxury, allow a rookie to sit for their first season, if they play good enough to beat out Tyrod then fine, but you don't address the QB situation by getting rid of the QB and not having a coherent plan in place to do so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Already excited about this off season, just made playoffs with a team that's just ahead of browns and colts talent wise. There's gonna be decent fa pocket passers available and promising draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, billsfan89 said: I have been watching all season, I have also seen who the Bills were throwing out at QB for the past 14 years before then. Although you could do a lot better than Tyrod I think you can do much much worse. If the choice is Alex Smith or Tyrod Taylor, a 2nd round pick, and 4.5 million dollars in cap space give me the latter. I would rather draft a rookie and have him beat out Tyrod. Having a decent QB such as Tyrod is a luxury, allow a rookie to sit for their first season, if they play good enough to beat out Tyrod then fine, but you don't address the QB situation by getting rid of the QB and not having a coherent plan in place to do so. With Alex Smith we can make a deep run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, billsfan89 said: I have been watching all season, I have also seen who the Bills were throwing out at QB for the past 14 years before then. Although you could do a lot better than Tyrod I think you can do much much worse. If the choice is Alex Smith or Tyrod Taylor, a 2nd round pick, and 4.5 million dollars in cap space give me the latter. I would rather draft a rookie and have him beat out Tyrod. Having a decent QB such as Tyrod is a luxury, allow a rookie to sit for their first season, if they play good enough to beat out Tyrod then fine, but you don't address the QB situation by getting rid of the QB and not having a coherent plan in place to do so. They have many draft picks and there are a few tradeable/signable QBs. I'm sure there is a plan to get rid of his garbage play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I have been watching all season, I have also seen who the Bills were throwing out at QB for the past 14 years before then. Although you could do a lot better than Tyrod I think you can do much much worse. If the choice is Alex Smith or Tyrod Taylor, a 2nd round pick, and 4.5 million dollars in cap space give me the latter. I would rather draft a rookie and have him beat out Tyrod. Having a decent QB such as Tyrod is a luxury, allow a rookie to sit for their first season, if they play good enough to beat out Tyrod then fine, but you don't address the QB situation by getting rid of the QB and not having a coherent plan in place to do so. Nothing about Tyrod is a luxury. And though I do agree you can do worse, we have the cap flexibility and draft capital to get a real QB, so we HAVE to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
run dat back Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sweats said: but for gods sakes man, at least toss it up and let your receivers make a play. I don't think that concept has ever occurred to him. Bills need to move on. To defend TT is to accept mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The time to get rid of Taylor was the 2017 draft when Watson fell to the 10th pick. Let's hope that the same mistake doesn't happen in the 2018 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I think we do need to move from TT. He was the leader of this offense but he's not good enough. I'm thankful that he helped us get to the playoffs but it's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: I'm just so sick of TT dumping the ball off on every play...........granted, he may not have his WR's open downfield, but for gods sakes man, at least toss it up and let your receivers make a play. Between, TT and Dennison, our O is a lost cause. Will never happen, he is so scared of turning the ball over because it's the only real positive he has as a QB. Those down field and tight coverage throws are pathetic, seem to be purposely over/under thrown to stay away from the defender. I sure hope I don't have to watch him anymore. And kick that OC out with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Hopefully moving on from Taylor AND Dennison. The main 2 reasons this game was lost today IMO. Defense let Bortles get out of hand a with the scrambling some and dropped 2 INTs, but overall gave the offense PLENTY of chances. This falls on the OC and Taylor all the way IMO Who in their right mind would want to take a job as an OC when TT is your starting QB ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I honestly think that you can only move on from Tyrod if it is a substantial upgrade or a rookie with promise. A slight upgrade or lateral move like Alex Smith would not work, why give up assets and cap space to be marginally better at QB? Even if they draft a rookie I would still want Tyrod on the roster. Peterman is ass and they shouldn't force a rookie into action if that rookie can't beat out Tyrod. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod let Tyrod hang in there for one more year and slowly build up the talent on the team around a young promising QB who can learn a system and get use to being a pro for awhile. Nonsense. Smith is way better. But I think they need to draft a QB high in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Shotgunner said: Nothing about Tyrod is a luxury. And though I do agree you can do worse, we have the cap flexibility and draft capital to get a real QB, so we HAVE to try. My original premise was that the Bills should spend a high draft choice on a QB, maybe even trade up to get one. But then they should keep Tyrod for one more year in order to not have to start a rookie on a team that might not be ready or in a bad situation. Tyrod can be a placeholder QB for one more season, are the free agent QB's that you can get cheaper any better? No not really, are the QB's you would be trading for any better (At best a marginal upgrade like Alex Smith) I don't think it's worth it. Draft a QB early and have Tyrod be the guy they have to beat out for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, run dat back said: I don't think that concept has ever occurred to him. Bills need to move on. To defend TT is to accept mediocrity. Mediocrtiy gets a win today. Unfortunately, we aren’t even mediocre on offense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I know he is just a rookie but I have seen enough of Peterman too. I know he will be back because of his age/contract but I dont see a lot of hope in him. I support getting Alex Smith or Case Keenum and drafting a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Today's silver lining is that there's absolutely no evaluation needed at the QB position. It's all up to the college and pro player personnel department and McBeane to pick the best guy for the future. They better find some competent WR help as well, but that shouldn't be too difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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