ProcessTheTrust Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Draft a QB and go with whoever Minny parts ways with for our stop gap till the Rook is ready. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I have been watching all season, I have also seen who the Bills were throwing out at QB for the past 14 years before then. Although you could do a lot better than Tyrod I think you can do much much worse. If the choice is Alex Smith or Tyrod Taylor, a 2nd round pick, and 4.5 million dollars in cap space give me the latter. I would rather draft a rookie and have him beat out Tyrod. Having a decent QB such as Tyrod is a luxury, allow a rookie to sit for their first season, if they play good enough to beat out Tyrod then fine, but you don't address the QB situation by getting rid of the QB and not having a coherent plan in place to do so. Problem is having a rookie qb sit behind tyrod does nothing for his development. Tyrod offers nothing to teach or show the qb of the future. We need to bring in a true pocket passer and let a rookie learn the ropes from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 A 56 yard passing game, a 65 yard passing game, three 3 point total point performances and there's still people that support Taylor? Unbelievable! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, leonbus23 said: Nonsense. Smith is way better. But I think they need to draft a QB high in the 1st round. I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 After watching Taylor today there is no trade value. The only thing we need to do is release Taylor for the cap savings. It should be quick and clean and two years over due. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Joaquin1119 said: Bengals end the drought for us If the Bills don't win 9 games, the Bengals game is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Andy makes the throw to Deonte Thompson against the Cover 4 on the first play of the final drive for a game tieing TD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The Bills might pay $30 mil per to Cousins or trade for Alex Smith knowing that any mediocre QB wins this game today. Someone who can actually complete a pass to a WR. This offense is embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better. You say Smith is a marginal upgrade..................many of us say not. You are comparing Smiths FIRST 4 years. It means nothing concerning having smith for 1 year here. I do agree with your bolded statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: Problem is having a rookie qb sit behind tyrod does nothing for his development. Tyrod offers nothing to teach or show the qb of the future. We need to bring in a true pocket passer and let a rookie learn the ropes from him. That's a solid point but in all honesty a good QB coach and offensive system cure that. I think a "QB you can learn from" is a bit of an overstated thing. A lot of the all time greats (Brady, Farve, Montana, ect) have been reported to be terrible mentors by the QB's that succeeded them or were backups for a long time. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod's quality of play then they shouldn't touch the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better. It goea beyond the numbers with Smith and Taylor. It's the intangibles such as knowing how to throw the ball away on 2nd and 2 instead of taking a 10 yard sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Andy makes the throw to Deonte Thompson against the Cover 4 on the first play of the final drive for a game tieing TD Haha that's what I said too. I said this looks like where the Bengals had the ball, dang I wish we had a QB as mediocre as Andy Dalton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: You say Smith is a marginal upgrade..................many of us say not. You are comparing Smiths FIRST 4 years. It means nothing concerning having smith for 1 year here. I do agree with your bolded statement. Just to clarify, you're saying Alex Smith is a significant upgrade from TT? If so, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Andy makes the throw to Deonte Thompson against the Cover 4 on the first play of the final drive for a game tieing TD Or maybe he doesn’t.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 3 points for 3 years and out. Goodbye Tyrod Edited January 7, 2018 by xRUSHx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Just to clarify, you're saying Alex Smith is a significant upgrade from TT? If so, I agree. We win this game with Alex Smith and almost any other OC available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: That's a solid point but in all honesty a good QB coach and offensive system cure that. I think a "QB you can learn from" is a bit of an overstated thing. A lot of the all time greats (Brady, Farve, Montana, ect) have been reported to be terrible mentors by the QB's that succeeded them or were backups for a long time. If a rookie can't beat out Tyrod's quality of play then they shouldn't touch the offense. I'm not saying the mentor is going to physically teach a rookie how to play. What I am saying a rookie is going to watch how the mentor plays and pick up on things they do well and not so well. I believe that is one of the best ways to learn the qb position is to just sit and watch someone who knows what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Keennum, Bradford, Smith do both. vet like Bradford, etc and rookie. Kirk Cousins? Edited January 7, 2018 by MILFHUNTER#518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Dear Tyra, The past few years have pretty good. We had some fun times together that I will never forget. Remember that time we took that trip to the playoffs? It was so much fun, I needed that vacation. You seemed excited about going with me but once we got there you had that usual confused look on your face. Now we are checking out early and I'm ok with it. I won't have to see your face again and I need a change. It's not you, it's me. Good luck where ever you end up, no hard feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You say Smith is a marginal upgrade..................many of us say not. You are comparing Smiths FIRST 4 years. It means nothing concerning having smith for 1 year here. I do agree with your bolded statement. I know a lot of people here are high on Alex Smith but I just don't see it. Smith's numbers in KC when he had less offensive weapons are very similar to what Tyrod put up these past 3 seasons. They counted on a great defense and a QB who didn't turn the ball over to win games. The one good offensive year he had was the 5th year in an offensive system under a great offensive coach and with 3 great offensive weapons. Put Smith around this level of offensive talent, learning a new system, and with this OC and I think the results are pretty much the same as Tyrod. Edited January 7, 2018 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I like Tyrod. A super easy guy to root for but he just isn’t the answer for what we need. I wish he was because the guy is so likable. Time to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zebrastripes said: I'm not saying the mentor is going to physically teach a rookie how to play. What I am saying a rookie is going to watch how the mentor plays and pick up on things they do well and not so well. I believe that is one of the best ways to learn the qb position is to just sit and watch someone who knows what they are doing. Fair point but I also don't think pro-football players are that impressionable. I don't have an issue moving on from Tyrod but either upgrade at the QB significantly or draft a rookie and have Tyrod be the place holder. I think a player like Alex Smith who you would have to give up at least a 2nd round pick and is due 18 million dollars isn't worth the price. I think peoples overestimations of Smith's value are based on the fact that he is on another team that has had success. Not realizing just how limited at time he was in KC and was playing in a similar conservative style that Tyrod also plays. I guarantee you if this team trades for Smith all the complaints about Tyrod (Check downs, missing receivers, playing too conservative, running too much) will be said about Smith and it will cost the team cap space and a premium pick to pay for that type of play. Edited January 7, 2018 by billsfan89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Bay Chad Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 My source tells me, Taylor will be traded or released and we will be trading for Alex Smith 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Just to clarify, you're saying Alex Smith is a significant upgrade from TT? If so, I agree. LOL yes. Alex Smith (among others not even named) would be much more of an upgrade than the word MARGINAL. I gave TT all the chances in the world to show he can be a successful QB in this league. I'm done. I will bring up one point not mentioned much. All during the 4th quarter today, I watched TT stand in the pocket/huddle area, between plays/start of drives/TO's and say NOTHING to his teammates. A QB has to be a leader on the field. TT stands around looking disinterested. I know all about having a composed/controlled QB, but the 4th quarter of a playoff game. Bye bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Tony Romo was awesome today.....pointing out every Bills receiver who was open.....bye bye TT, a great guy who is barely a fair to middlin' QB! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Or maybe he doesn’t.. He at least attempts it can we agree on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Thanks for everything Tyrod but it's time to Part ways. All the best in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: He at least attempts it can we agree on that? I don’t do well with these hypothetical make believe scenarios. Maybe he doesn’t. Maybe he throws a pick 6. I don’t know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Fair point but I also don't think pro-football players are that impressionable. I don't have an issue moving on from Tyrod but either upgrade at the QB significantly or draft a rookie and have Tyrod be the place holder. Fair enough I respect your opinion. I would just rather find a true pocket passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I'd say Smith is at best a marginal upgrade. Compare Smith numbers his first 4 years with KC to Tyrod's three years here in Buffalo, they are pretty similar. KC's defense has been way more consistent that's why they made the playoffs. It was only this past year in Alex Smith's 5th season in the same offensive system with 3 dynamic weapons (Hill, Kelce, and now Hunt) and a solid offensive line that he had even a good season. I am not saying Tyrod is that good but just that Smith isn't that much better. I disagree. Smith is a lot better. Tyrod's numbers are deceiving. Smith is smarter. More like a QB. Not necessarily a savior or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Bay Chad Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 We will trade a third , fifth and Hughes for Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: My source tells me, Taylor will be traded or released and we will be trading for Alex Smith Youre still playing this game huh? Sad 1 minute ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: We will trade a third , fifth and Hughes for Smith No, we won’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: My source tells me, Taylor will be traded or released and we will be trading for Alex Smith I can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Bay Chad Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Youre still playing this game huh? Sad No, we won’t Yes we are. Dennison will be fired shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Chadwick Bay Chad said: Yes we are. Dennison will be fired shortly No we aren’t because it would be really stupid. Also, good call on that Joe Webb package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: My source tells me, Taylor will be traded or released and we will be trading for Alex Smith We can only HOPE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Tyrod is an excellent athlete and has shown a lot of class over the years. I wish him well but Buffalo does need to move on from Tyrod now. Too many times he's had the opportunity for a late come from behind drive for the win and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: Yes we are. Dennison will be fired shortly I'd do it tonight. His !@#$up at the one totally changed the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloDave55 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Vikings can't keep everyone... 3 free agent QB's. Go after BRIDGEWATER!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Thanks for the playoffs. Keep your head high and go get that money elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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