The Jokeman Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 53 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I was wrong about Peterman. He's even worse than I thought. I was wrong about him too. I thought he be a good one, that said one start doesn't make a career yet he didn't start well at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I was wrong in saying letting Jonathan Williams go was a mistake. Young RBs really are a dime a dozen... Edited November 21, 2017 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycorp51 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong about letting myself become even a little bit optimistic after a 5-2 start. I knew this team had major deficiencies, but I started to believe in them being serious overachievers. Now they're exactly what I thought they'd be this season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Commonsense said: I was wrong about Mike Glennon. I was also wrong when I broke out the playoff panties after the Bils quick start. IMO you should allow all EJ supporters to confess, this will help in future discussions when we need to question their vision. Oh, hell. I thought EJ was a potentially talented but raw QB whose development was either non-existant or grossly mishandled. And I disagreed when people claimed he was absolutely the worst QB ever and the Jax game was the worst outing by an NFL QB ever. I submit the first half of last Sunday's game as Exhibit A in defense of the last point, and the whole sequence of releasing Fitz/Kolb and the bathmat/rookie OC and no QB coach/and the game plans vs. those devised for Brisset and Prescott as Exhibit B in support of the first statement. IOW, I still loudly and firmly proclaim I was right on those points and if that makes you question my vision, Bite..... 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: I was wrong in saying letting Jonathan Williams go was a mistake. Young RBs really are a dime a dozen... If that's so, then why TF don't we have our damn dozen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 i definitely allowed myself to get a bit excited. the jets game tempered me back. i didn't have any real predictions one way or the other in preseason because i just wasn't expecting too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 wrong about our defence was going to maintain top 5 status throughout the year....dead wrong wrong about that peterman may give this team a spark.....even more dead wrong...its obviously clear the kid is nowhere near NFL ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, hell. I thought EJ was a potentially talented but raw QB whose development was either non-existant or grossly mishandled. And I disagreed when people claimed he was absolutely the worst QB ever and the Jax game was the worst outing by an NFL QB ever. I submit the first half of last Sunday's game as Exhibit A in defense of the last point, and the whole sequence of releasing Fitz/Kolb and the bathmat/rookie OC and no QB coach/and the game plans vs. those devised for Brisset and Prescott as Exhibit B in support of the first statement. IOW, I still loudly and firmly proclaim I was right on those points and if that makes you question my vision, Bite..... If that's so, then why TF don't we have our damn dozen? If you watched EJ at FSU it was always the same, you could see him trying to decide "how" to make a throw. That's never going to end well. Throwing had to be natural for a QB, I don't want to revisit EJ I was just having a little fun. We all have our good and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I was wrong about Gilmore. I was convinced he would be an all-pro in Belichik’s D. Guilty here too. I thought he would emerge widely recognized as one of the top 5 CBs in the league once he got the Patriot Bump. I'm wrong on all of our old players, I thought Gillislee would see a similar bump in production / profile and I'm shocked Watkins is little more than a decoy in one of the top offenses in the league. I admit this team got me to buy in at 5-2 with what looked like several winnable games left on the schedule and a wide open AFC. Going into the season I fully expected a 6-10 (or worse) tire fire that it looks like is still coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong for thinking it cold get worse than last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong about our Oline - it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, hell. I thought EJ was a potentially talented but raw QB whose development was either non-existant or grossly mishandled. And I disagreed when people claimed he was absolutely the worst QB ever and the Jax game was the worst outing by an NFL QB ever. I submit the first half of last Sunday's game as Exhibit A in defense of the last point, and the whole sequence of releasing Fitz/Kolb and the bathmat/rookie OC and no QB coach/and the game plans vs. those devised for Brisset and Prescott as Exhibit B in support of the first statement. IOW, I still loudly and firmly proclaim I was right on those points and if that makes you question my vision, Bite..... If that's so, then why TF don't we have our damn dozen? From the Senior Bowl I liked EJ the best of that QB bunch, but I viewed him as a 3rd round pick. Thinking EJ was the best QB in that class isn't exactly wrong, it's just one of the worst classes ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I was wrong about trying to support the idea of winning this season ...We should have tanked from the beginning. Edited November 21, 2017 by JaCrispy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I thought Marcel Dareus would finally shape up rather than shipping out. I have to admit to this one, too. I thought he was going to turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, Commonsense said: If you watched EJ at FSU it was always the same, you could see him trying to decide "how" to make a throw. That's never going to end well. Throwing had to be natural for a QB, I don't want to revisit EJ I was just having a little fun. We all have our good and bad. I'm quite open OTR as not watching college football enough to evaluate, which is why you never see me posting in the pre-draft "who we want?" threads. I read all the pre-draft stuff about him being raw and needing development. Maybe he was un-developable, I don't know. But I do know 1) the Bills, having traded down and drafted him in the first as a known "has the physical profile, ? on the skills" QB, didn't "do the experiment" to try to develop him anything close to properly 2) he ain't the worst. Case rested, and happy to be judged for those opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 i was wrong about thinking this year would be different.....though i'd gladly eat crow on that one.....but we know i won't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I was wrong about trying to support the idea of winning this season ...We should have tanked from the beginning. It's a point. And sensible pro football folks don't start a tank after 5 wins already put them behind 15 teams for the 'draft position derby'. Do, or Do Not, there is no Try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I was wrong to think that there can't possibly be that many people stupid enough to think they can assess a rookie QB based on his first 30 minutes of meaningful football - yet most of those same people think that, after 6 years in the league and 40 starts for the Bills, that the jury is still out on Tyrod Taylor's ability to be a decent NFL starter. He's basically still a rookie too, gug. Hypocrisy much? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong about our O-line - I am not sure how much of their suck was negated by Taylors escape ability but definitely enough to make them seem competent. I thought Nate Peterman would seem somewhat decent his first two throws were fantastic then it just went to ****, I didn't think someone could make EJ Manuel's performance against the Jaguars look like Brady in comparison. I was wrong about Dareus being a difference maker I guess some things don't show up in the stat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I was wrong to think that there can't possibly be that many people stupid enough to think they can assess a rookie QB based on his first 30 minutes of meaningful football - yet most of those same people think that, after 6 years in the league and 40 starts for the Bills, that the jury is still out on Tyrod Taylor's ability to be a decent NFL starter. The jury IS in Tyrod is a decent NFL starter. I was wrong on Wentz. I thought the way he fizzled last year was because he was figured out. He came out this year a man possessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong about J. Worthy......I truly thought that he was going to step in and not have much of a drop off Then....they fell off a cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) if not just confined to this year 1) After the first drive for each team in the Bills 2nd game under Rex against the Pats, we moved right down the field, they went 3 and out, i actually thought "damn, i was wrong on Rex, this is the real deal" . 2) I have a ticket for $100 on the Browns to win the North this year at 25-1, cause you know process and all Edited November 21, 2017 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Well, i was never really impressed with the McD hire to begin with and im still not..............so, i guess that i wasnt wrong about anything. My bad.........carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I was wrong about the Jets game. I thought the bills defense was the best. I usually go to my dad's house to see the Bills games but I skipped going for the Saints game and I would have skipped the Chargers game but after the QB change I didn't wanna miss it. That leads me to the second thing I was wrong about. Starting Nate Peterman and Tyrod being a big factor to the Bills having no passing game. If Tyrod sucks it's amazing he can do anything at all. Not bashing Nate. I didn't expect Nate to have that bad of a game. I was hoping the streaker would get out of Jail in time to save the Chargers game but I was wrong about that too, bail must of been a lot. We all should of donated. Edited November 21, 2017 by Lfod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was dead wrong about Peterman. Also, wrong that I thought this team was ready for the playoffs this season. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'm obviously not alone in being wrong about Peterman providing a 'spark', although in an odd way, he might have managed to set the fire that cremates our excuse for an O-Line - particularly on the RHS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Shame! Shame! I was i was wrong on Poyer too. I thought that he was a bad signing and player. He was the move that I liked the least in FA. Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I was wrong thinking I was wiser and the Bills wouldn't suck me in this year. Well they got me again. I was wrong thinking Tyrod wouldn't even try to play to this offensive system because he was a stubborn jerk. Now I think he won't do it because it will end in disaster. He won't throw to where the receiver is supposed to be using "anticipation" because the receiver may or may not remember where he is supposed to go. He won't throw the jump ball counting on his receiver to go get it because Andre Reed is not on this team. In short they put Peterman out there to run the offense their way and it was a catastrophe. Taylor's stock went up a lot with me. I thought this years team would suck. I know sucking. I have had 20 years of sucking. So I know sucking when I see it and I was wrong. This is something beyond sucking out there and I have no idea how it can be this bad. Without Taylor Sunday they could easily have scored 100 points on us. Edited November 21, 2017 by BadLandsMeanie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong in thinking trading Dareus would not impact our defense at all CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: I was wrong about Mike Glennon. I was also wrong when I broke out the playoff panties after the Bils quick start. IMO you should allow all EJ supporters to confess, this will help in future discussions when we need to question their vision. Was I wrong when I found the term “ Playoff panties” curiously arousing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong about Peterman being so bad in his first start...but I'm still willing to give him more time and hopefully some better blocking before I decide he's "garbage". However, very wrong about how I thought the Offense would respond to Peterman's quicker decision making and giving his receivers a chance to make a play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I was wrong thinking I was wiser and the Bills wouldn't suck me in this year. Well they got me again. I was wrong thinking Tyrod wouldn't even try to play to this offensive system because he was a stubborn jerk. Now I think he won't do it because it will end in disaster. He won't throw to where the receiver is supposed to be using "anticipation" because the receiver may or may not remember where he is supposed to go. He won't throw the jump ball counting on his receiver to go get it because Andre Reed is not on this team. In short they put Peterman out there to run the offense their way and it was a catastrophe. Taylor's stock went up a lot with me. I thought this years team would suck. I know sucking. I have had 20 years of sucking. So I know sucking when I see it and I was wrong. This is something beyond sucking out there and I have no idea how it can be this bad. Without Taylor Sunday they could easily have scored 100 points on us. I did such a good job this year not getting sucked in. Them trading Watkins helped me a lot. However at 5-2 and getting ready to play the Jets I was fully on board the hype train. I'm an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's a point. And sensible pro football folks don't start a tank after 5 wins already put them behind 15 teams for the 'draft position derby'. Do, or Do Not, there is no Try. Here is the rub: McD and Dennison have to be given credit for the fast start. They did something right but I think they all were surprised by it as much as the fans. I think this was a Tank/ rebuild from the beginning. As much as the losing would suck, it would feel a lot better being 3-7 right now and not trading away a good pick for KB on what I bet turns into a one year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I believed in #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was totally and absolutely wrong on the strength of our defense. Thought they were going to be much better under the new regime. Never ever thought they would be as terrible as they have shown in the last three games. It makes no sense how far they have fallen. I guess other teams have figured them out and know all of our weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong for starting Peterman on one of my fantasy teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gugny said: I was wrong to think that there can't possibly be that many people stupid enough to think they can assess a rookie QB based on his first 30 minutes of meaningful football - yet most of those same people think that, after 6 years in the league and 40 starts for the Bills, that the jury is still out on Tyrod Taylor's ability to be a decent NFL starter. We have a winner! 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm quite open OTR as not watching college football enough to evaluate, which is why you never see me posting in the pre-draft "who we want?" threads. I read all the pre-draft stuff about him being raw and needing development. Maybe he was un-developable, I don't know. But I do know 1) the Bills, having traded down and drafted him in the first as a known "has the physical profile, ? on the skills" QB, didn't "do the experiment" to try to develop him anything close to properly 2) he ain't the worst. Case rested, and happy to be judged for those opinions. I don't watch much college football anymore outside of ND. Usually the best source of info are the guys who follow a specific team and IIRC, the couple FSU guys on this board warned everyone that EJ was unlikely to be a successful pro. Edited November 21, 2017 by KD in CA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I was wrong to think that the TNF game was an anomaly. Apparently, it was the start of a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, WhoTom said: I was wrong to think that the TNF game was an anomaly. Apparently, it was the start of a pattern. Apparently??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Here is the rub: McD and Dennison have to be given credit for the fast start. They did something right but I think they all were surprised by it as much as the fans. I think this was a Tank/ rebuild from the beginning. As much as the losing would suck, it would feel a lot better being 3-7 right now and not trading away a good pick for KB on what I bet turns into a one year deal. So you're saying they meant to tank all along, they're just incompetent even at tanking? You're da*n straight pick for KB makes zippo sense if that was their plan. You're tanking and you trade for 1.5 years? Personally I don't believe it. I think they meant to win as much as they could, underestimated the potential impact of trading Dareus on the D, and overestimated the potential benefit of acquiring Benjamin mid-season. Edited November 21, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 32 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I was wrong for starting Peterman on one of my fantasy teams. The lowest scoring fantasy game in 38 seasons!! Nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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