ultimatebeing17 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 They both played around the same time. Who is the better QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Kelly was a better field general and more of a gamer. Marino was better from a talent and technical standpoint, which is reflected in the stats, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino was probably better, but Kelly was perfect for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I would take Kelly to win any given game. So I reckon Kelly was better. Marino was amazing, great quick release, mind blowing stats for the time, but not the best with the game on the line. I remember him being rattled many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino was more talented, Kelly had more heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I think Kelly was smarter....Kelly used his teammates better than Marino and was a much better leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Joe Ferguson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino may have had more talent than Kelly. Kelly had the better team around him. Can you say "BRUCE"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) With talented players we had back then? Did Miami ever have a good running game during that tenure or someone like Thurman? Flip the question this way. If Marino was the Bills Franchise QB with the same supporting cast how many Super bowls would Buffalo have won? Luck with his lack of a supporting team right know reminds me of those Dolphins teams back in the day. Edited August 25, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 With talented players we had back then? Did Miami ever have a good running game during that tenure or someone like Thurman? Flip the question this way. If Marino was the Bills Franchise QB with the same supporting cast how many Super bowls would Buffalo have won? Luck with his lack of a supporting team right know reminds me of those Dolphins teams back in the day. I doubt they would have won any.....Now, maybe you take Kelly and give the Bills Don Shula and they win one......As already noted above, Kelly was much better at managing the game and had enough of the coach's confidence to be allowed to call and manage his own game, consistently, throughout his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I doubt they would have won any.....Now, maybe you take Kelly and give the Bills Don Shula and they win one......As already noted above, Kelly was much better at managing the game and had enough of the coach's confidence to be allowed to call and manage his own game, consistently, throughout his career. Kelly didn't manage the game well in SB XXV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Kelly didn't manage the game well in SB XXV. The Bills offense had the ball for 19 minutes...scored 17 points and 370 yards of offense....I think he managed well with the amount of time they had the ball....Reed doesn't drop an easy 3rd pass when wide open...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino I think that they are 2 of the most overrated players in NFL history but if they flipped teams the Bills would have won at least 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino had a better arm, Kelly was a better leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 The Bills offense had the ball for 19 minutes...scored 17 points and 370 yards of offense....I think he managed well with the amount of time they had the ball....Reed doesn't drop an easy 3rd pass when wide open...... Don't care about any of that. Thurman Thomas should have had far more than 15 carries again a 2 DL front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino was probably better, but Kelly was perfect for Buffalo. Perfectly said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I am a die hard Jim Kelly fan. I became a Bills fan when he finally joined, and he and I have had the same Cancer. That said... its a Push. If you could combine certain aspects of the two, you would have literally had THE perfect QB. Don't care about any of that. Thurman Thomas should have had far more than 15 carries again a 2 DL front. Can you guys quit bitching about that BS already? We got to the superbowl doing what we did. Billy B came up with one of the most off the wall, and brilliant, defensive game plans ever to slow us down.And Jim Kelly and the offense did NOT lose that Superbowl, the Defense did. Go back and watch again objectively. They couldn't tackle or stop the run at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I am a die hard Jim Kelly fan. I became a Bills fan when he finally joined, and he and I have had the same Cancer. That said... its a Push. If you could combine certain aspects of the two, you would have literally had THE perfect QB. Can you guys quit bitching about that BS already? We got to the superbowl doing what we did. Billy B came up with one of the most off the wall, and brilliant, defensive game plans ever to slow us down. And Jim Kelly and the offense did NOT lose that Superbowl, the Defense did. Go back and watch again objectively. They couldn't tackle or stop the run at all. They lost as a team and Kelly played a role in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 They both played around the same time. Who is the better QB? Marino was the better QB - Kelly had the better team and was a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Can you guys quit bitching about that BS already? We got to the superbowl doing what we did. Billy B came up with one of the most off the wall, and brilliant, defensive game plans ever to slow us down. I wonder if he would have been so brilliant if he hadn't played the Bills just a few weeks before the regular season ended. I tend to think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I would have to agree with the many who said Marino had more talent. But Kelly was the better overall QB without a doubt. The only Stats that matter are the Wins and Losses. Kelly was a better field General than Marino, a total gamer. Many forget that Kelly was calling his own plays in the huddle, especially during the K-Gun Offense. They guy was a master at it. I was surprised that he never went into coaching QB's or the Offense because he had the skills to run one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino was a better passer, but if I'm building a team I take Kelly everyday over Marino for the intangibles (heart, leadership, toughness, smarts, team-focused, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Kelly was 3-0 against Marino when it REALLY mattered, killing him each time. With that said, Marino NEVER had a RB like Thurman (or even Kenneth Davis for that matter), so it's simply an unfair comparison. Or give Marino TD late in his career, like Elway, and he might have went out on top. Marino basically had the weight of the entire team on his back throughout his career. It's pretty unfair to compare Marino with all time greats, cause the other all time greats had much better support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) Marino over Kelly easily. Edited August 25, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino I think that they are 2 of the most overrated players in NFL history but if they flipped teams the Bills would have won at least 1. Agreed. Now duck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 T-Rex or Velociraptor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino was probably better, but Kelly was perfect for Buffalo. This CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Don't care about any of that. Thurman Thomas should have had far more than 15 carries again a 2 DL front. I love how Bills fans can never let it go. No, I'm not kidding ... it is part of the pleasure/pain thing of being a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) Marino was more talented, Kelly had more heart +1 Edited August 25, 2017 by Another Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino was a better passer, but if I'm building a team I take Kelly everyday over Marino for the intangibles (heart, leadership, toughness, smarts, team-focused, etc.). Team focused? You mean like when he was publicly calling out teammates via the media? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 great another thread to give those a chance to bash another bills player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 They are both examples of why you needs complete team to win and not just a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Saw them play head to head several times. It wasn't even close. Kelly was clearly the better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Passing Marino Game manager Kelly. 4 SB to 1 SB Balance with good passing and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Marino, hands down. As much as I love Kelly and I respect his command of the no huddle, I would have been interested to see what Marino could have done with Reed to throw to and Thomas to hand off to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Kelly is the greatest Bills qb and a legend in Buffalo. But Marino is an all time great. Do people forget how loaded those Bills teams were? How many HOfers did they have? Those Fins teams kinda sucked minus Marino. He had to carry those teams. There's a reason why the Bills never missed a beat when Reich came in. We were loaded. Also, there's a lot of revisionist history. Granted I was young but I've researched a lot of Bills history. Kelly almost single handedly destroyed the Bulls before they really got started. He was a terrible leader for his first five years. He also wasn't a very good playoff qb. But we were again so loaded, it didn't matter. I loved seeing red faced Marino screaming at his teammates when we were killing them. But he is a far superior qb to Kelly. That said, they are both HOFers and both teams haven't come close to seeing qbs like that. I took that for granted. Saw them play head to head several times. It wasn't even close. Kelly was clearly the better QB. With all due respect, I think the Bills winning has clouded your memory. Kelly had a great game against them in a wildcard game. In an afc championship game, Kelly barely completed 50% of his passes for less than 200 yards, had 1 td & 2 INTs, and we won. Could you imagine the Fins winning if Marino did that? Kelly had 21 tds and 28 INTs in the playoffs. He was far from a money qb. We were so loaded it didn't matter. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00/gamelog/post/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) 3 all time greats from the 1983 draft, can't go wrong with any of them. I'd rank them Elway->Marino->Kelly, but the gap between each is tiny. I do think that Kelly played with the most talent throughout his entire career. Marino did the most with less. Elway went out on top like few players ever get the chance to do, that was special. Eric Dickerson and Bruce Matthews from that draft too, incredible. Edited August 25, 2017 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 3 all time greats from the 1983 draft, can't go wrong with any of them. I'd rank them Elway->Marino->Kelly, but the gap between each is tiny. I do think that Kelly played with the most talent throughout his entire career out of the three. Marino did the most with less. Elway personified "gamer" in my eyes. Eric Dickerson and Bruce Matthews from that draft too, incredible. Personally, I think Elway is the best qb of my lifetime. The stats will never beat it out but those Denver teams he took to the SB early in his career might be the least talented offensive teams ever. He was so clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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