Blokestradamus Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 From everything I hear about Phillip Rivers, he would probably retire before coming to the Northeast. Especially Buffalo. He's got a couple dozen kids that he seems unwilling to either uproot or move away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Leaving aside the fact that it is basically impossible..... Would I as a fan? Sure. I do think with Rivers under centre we would be a playoff team this year and in a weak AFC (aside from New England) I'd give us a real shot at making the Championship game. Would I if I put myself in Brandon Beane's shoes? No. His job is to build a sustainable franchise that can compete for the long term. Not to do what the Vikings did the first Brett Favre year and make the AFC Championship game only to follow that with 4 losing seasons in the next 5 as they scrambled back to any kind of healthy cap position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Maybe we can trade one of our fullbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Phillip Rivers has never won a meaningful football game. He has made his living chucking the alley oop to Antonio Gates and benefitting from defenses playing 8 in the box versus Ladainian Tomlinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Maybe we can trade one of our fullbacks Seems reasonable. I offer Mike Tolbert for Phil Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 You don't think Rivers, coming off one of his worst years in his career, on a Chargers team that hasn't won more than 5 games in the last two years, is more attainable than Aaron Rodgers?Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 nada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 This team feels like it will improve in every area except QB. The talent we have at QB will be our limiting factor of why we don't make the playoffs. I don't see TT excelling in this offence. I'm not expecting big things this year but I do expect to see an improved defense and a better coached team overall. I think Taylor will be gone after this year but at least we are in good shape to make a move on a QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Jeff's Magic, MajBobby, and everyone else who constantly bashes the QB we have for the sake of replacing them with a rookie from this draft class. No offense fellas, but that narrative is beyond discussed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Rivers is overrated. He is a good QB that was surrounded by a ton of talent in his early days in SD. Those SD teams were loaded on both sides of the ball and still could not get it done in the playoffs. Plus, Tomlinson was the engine that made that offense tick when they were good. Rivers was 46-18 playing with Tomlinson. Since Tomlinson left SD, Rivers is 51-61. He also earns 20m per year and is the least mobile qb in the NFL. Brady has slightly improved in this area while Rivers has become Bledsoe 2.0 in the pocket. Way too many turnovers and Rivers is so good that he lost to the Browns last year who should have been 0-16. This is a classic sucker trade because Rivers has the big name while Taylor has received more than his share of blame. In reality, Taylor will outproduce Rivers on the field in 2017 and still cost less. And by outproduce, I mean his overall passing/rushing and ball security will surpass what Rivers puts up. Rivers will still put up big passing numbers, especially early in the season as he always does. He is not a bad fantasy qb to have but I would not want him as my actual qb in 2017 with his inflated salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 what he said Rivers is a good QB that was surrounded by a ton of talent in his early days in SD. He's talented, but is the net gain? We still need a long term QB on the roster. Thinking Rivers is quick fix isn't the solution imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 5-11 but yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 ok. i'll play along in this very unlikely scenario. Rivers is an absolute stud. his Cap Hits are very reasonable 2017@$20 mil, 2018 @ $21 mil & 2019 @ $22 mil. he will play another 5 years. I'd give up BOTH first round picks in 2018 for him in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I think Tyrod is going to have a good year. I think this offense is going to be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 Nope TT and 3 1sts doesn't get a nibble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 TT and 3 1sts doesn't get a nibble? He has a no trade clause. So the reality is the Chargers don't have any choice but to reject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) From everything I hear about Phillip Rivers, he would probably retire before coming to the Northeast. Especially Buffalo. Most likely and him turning 36 years old this year does not help the cause for Buffalo to reach out. He already struggles with the same mess of a team that the Bills do. Under Marrone and our top 5 D a few years back it would have been perfect to have him to replace Rico. Now, not so much and not worth the high price it would cost to acquire a rental franchise guy for a couple years. We need to find our own shiny toy. Edited June 6, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Topic title. If we sign Maclin, our offense will look like: LT Glenn LG Incognito C Wood RG Miller RT Dawkins FB Dimarco RB1 Shady RB2 JWill TE1 Clay TE2 O'Leary WR1Watkins WR2 Maclin WR3-5 Jones/Holmes/Brown QB Tyrod Taylor. Healthy, the only thing that is going to hold back this offense from being insanely prolific is the QB. Would you be willing to gamble on health to get a QB like Rivers and make a SB run over this year and next? Say TT and a 1st for Rivers? TT and 2 1sts? What'd be your price? I busted helmet and an empty roll of ankle tape. no wait! Two empty rolls of ankle tape. Why on earth would anyone want an average QB whose best seasons are several years in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Also, Rivers has like 47 children and would have no interest in moving them across the country to play for a wild card spot (at best). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 TT and 3 1sts doesn't get a nibble?I am kind of half kidding that Rodgers is more attainable. Neither are attainable. Rivers has a no trade clause, a dozen kids, has made over $100M and is in his mid 30's. Why exactly do we think trading a solid starter (albeit not as good as Rivers) & 3 first round picks for him is a good idea? My guess is the Chargers would jump at it and Rivers would decide to retire. That is WAY more likely than the scenario that you present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Nothing...... He's not worth the cost it would take to obtain him. We would have ot mortgage the present and the future. Plus he is a cold weather puss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I'd trade Tom Brady's soul. Oh wait, that's been spoken for already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I'd trade Tom Brady's soul. Oh wait, that's been spoken for already!I'd trade my own soul. Watkins would have about 1900 yards playing with Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Bag of donuts? Maybe some chocolate chip cookies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 You don't think Rivers, coming off one of his worst years in his career, on a Chargers team that hasn't won more than 5 games in the last two years, is more attainable than Aaron Rodgers?It is somewhat reasonable. You could have also added that maybe Lynn really like TT and thinks he could make it work in LA. That said, no team trades a franchise qb unless there are crazy circumstances. If a team is willing to trade a qb, either they don't believe in them or they have a better alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Does he want to come here?? He has 8 kids... and has lived in SOCAL since what 2004? He also has a full no trade clause.. LA is what 2 hours from SD? How far is Buffalo? Edited June 6, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Thankfully the chances of Rivers coming to Buffalo are .000001% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Rivers is a short term plug at best. How many productive years does he even have left? I know a lot you pollyannas think Rivers will come in as some kind of savior and repopulate Niagara County by himself, but reversing the demographics trend that began 50 years ago is bigger than just one ultra fertile man. This is really more of a public policy issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Only if we had a team that's ready to win right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Question for the TBD'ers... how many times has the Rivers subject come up? This must be the 10th, naw make that 20th Rivers for Taylor thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 TT and 3 1sts doesn't get a nibble? Well....since TT is not a real qb why would they take him in trade? and 3 1sts?.....come on jmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 Well....since TT is not a real qb why would they take him in trade? and 3 1sts?.....come on jmc They need somebody. We certainly can't keep him. 3 1sts ain't so bad when we have an extra 1 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 They need somebody. We certainly can't keep him. 3 1sts ain't so bad when we have an extra 1 already. I'm not trying to be condescending so I apologize if it comes across as such. Do you really think it's a good idea to trade a solid starter and 3 1st's for a QB that turns 36 during the season? Do you really think that he will pack up his dozen kids and move across the country? I like Rivers more than most people but there is a 0.0% chance of this happening and if the Bills made that offer that would be CRUCIFIED by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I'm not trying to be condescending so I apologize if it comes across as such. Do you really think it's a good idea to trade a solid starter and 3 1st's for a QB that turns 36 during the season? Do you really think that he will pack up his dozen kids and move across the country? I like Rivers more than most people but there is a 0.0% chance of this happening and if the Bills made that offer that would be CRUCIFIED by the media. He is intitled to his opinion Kirby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Question for the TBD'ers... how many times has the Rivers subject come up? This must be the 10th, naw make that 20th Rivers for Taylor thread. yep and every time I say he has a No trade clause. And that he's not going to be traded. Ever. He is not waiving it. He would rather retire than go elsewhere. But yet... Edited June 6, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I'd trade Sammy Watkins for Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Does he want to come here?? He has 8 kids... and has lived in SOCAL since what 2004? He also has a full no trade clause.. LA is what 2 hours from SD? How far is Buffalo? 4 hrs 50 min or approx. equal to drive time between SD and LA with traffic. Edited June 6, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) They need somebody. We certainly can't keep him. 3 1sts ain't so bad when we have an extra 1 already. 3 -- 1st round picks for a QB that might (if that) have 3 years left in his career is 100% a horrible move. If we were talking Rivers in his late 20's then maybe. If your going to go ballz out for a QB like that, make it someone who will play for 10 years at least. The only guy that is reasonable to that metric is Cousins whom Washington does not know what they have, they are still mentally broken from RG3 or something. Edited June 6, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 hrs 50 min or approx. equal to drive time between SD and LA with traffic. Sure - and he can see his kids every day... he just has to fly back to san diego... Because there's always a flight available after practice... Or he can play for LA and just drive home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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