The Plunge Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I don't really are about the suspension as much as him being remembered as a cheater. Because he is a cheater. THIS!!!!! Q: What would you call someone who's twice been convicted of murder? A: A murderer. Q: What would you call someone who's twice been convicted of theft? A: A thief. Q: What would you call a team that's been twice convicted of cheating? A: CHEATERS I'm not comparing cheating in football to crimes in the real world. Not even close. But this conviction is not about the 4 games. It's about an informed opinion, by the people in the US justice system who reviewed the evidence, and the ultimate conclusion drawn. I also don't think this is about deflating footballs. I think this is simply what they were able to prove at the time. Everyone in the league knows there is a bunch of shenanigans occurring in NE, they just can't prove it. This happened to be the one thing they could prove. Think of it as Al Capone being sent to jail for tax evasion. Was that the worst thing he was doing? Of course not. Could they get a decent punishment for it? You bet. And any of you who are doubting the levels that Belichick and Ernie Adams go to in an effort to gain an unfair advantage, go read Spygate: The Untold Story. It's a great read and very eye opening. I actually had a lot of respect for that franchise until I read it. This is a great day! Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Wonder if they bring in Hoyer as a backup now. Garrapolo is terrible and they will need someone else ready to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Wonder if they bring in Hoyer as a backup now. Garrapolo is terrible and they will need someone else ready to goFitzpatrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Great. Here come the "Free Brady" idiots again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Wonder if they bring in Hoyer as a backup now. Garrapolo is terrible and they will need someone else ready to go Hmm i could see that happening, he would be able to put out the trash fire if Jimmy G. burns up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 this sucks. Now when we lose to the patriots with a backup QB, there will be mass suicides in Western New York... and shame across the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario51 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Appeals court: Tom Brady must serve 'Deflategate' suspension http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/04/25/appeals-court-tom-brady-must-serve-deflategate-suspension.html?intcmp=hpbt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 No... but that would be awesome. what about JG playing great and stealing the job would be awesome? that seems like the worst possible outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I can't believe this. Does he have any recourse to make it drag on again or is he out of appeals? I would say at least 3 of those games will be losses even at home. Maybe Giselle will come to his defense again or maybe drop him like a hot potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 With it being in Fixboro, I hope the Bills destroy the Pats in front of their home crowd. I'll never forget being in the stands for the 56-10 blow out and would love to see same thing happen to the Pats in Fixboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 what about JG playing great and stealing the job would be awesome? that seems like the worst possible outcome You're right. I'm not thinking straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 this sucks. Now when we lose to the patriots with a backup QB, there will be mass suicides in Western New York... and shame across the land. I sat through 4 Superbowls losses in a row...if that didn't kill me nothing will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Bills social media accounts are trolling the Pats** and Brady... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Really, as this all sinks in, it gets me a little pissed off. Last season is when this should have happened. Last season is when we should have made the playoffs. Honestly, my hopes for this season are not very high (like they were last season). At this point, this feels more like it is about Goodell's legacy than it is about Brady's. Maybe I'll feel differently after lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I disagree with the Brady suspension. As I stated in a prior post out of support for Brady I will stop posting until he is back on the field. I'll stop once the season starts. The deflategate process was a tarnished and corrupt process. My stance is more about how Goodell has conducted himself in this matter than it is about Brady. I can see the tears staining cheeks as this was written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) If they try and appeal Supreme Court be like... Edited April 25, 2016 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thank God! Roger Cassack was just on ESPN said it's over. He could appeal to the Supreme Court but with very little chance of them taking the case. It's time for him to accept the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kiko go Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 This is going to be heard en banc by the second circuit... no way NE* appeals this to SCOTUS. We are not out of the woods yet. Almost certainly not. The Second Circuit rarely, and I mean rarely, agrees to re-hear a panel decision en banc. How rarely? Over the ten-year period from 2000-2010, the court issued somewhere between 5 and 8 en banc decisions. That's out of nearly 28,000 cases heard by the court. For a rate of around 0.03%. https://www.federalbarcouncil.org/vg/custom/uploads/pdfs/En_Banc_Report.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 How convenient http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tom-brady-contract-details--still-a-bargain-for-patriots-170805826.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 During Brady's suspension, is he allowed to practice with the team and be involved with the team at their facilities? It would be even better if he is completely removed for four weeks (no meetings, communication, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario51 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm the only one that actually wants him playing Week 4, aren't I? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 During Brady's suspension, is he allowed to practice with the team and be involved with the team at their facilities? It would be even better if he is completely removed for four weeks (no meetings, communication, etc.). Hah. They have a hard enough time restricting Brady's communications with his magical helmet. They play the Brown's his first week back, when he returns he will be up to speed before they play anyone serious. I'm holding out hope that Arizona throttles them week one and leaves JG in a mental heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Not to be greedy but I wish it was our home game that he was suspended for I think I'd rather take the away game without Brady and the home field advantage with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Great. Here come the "Free Brady" idiots again. Led by Jason Cole on Jim Rome. It's freakin' amazing how certain members of the media act like such shills for Brady and the Pats** tap dancing around the facts and harping about what a severe punishment this is for such a minor offense. For just deflating balls, it is severe. For a team with a history of cheating obstructing an NFL investigation? 4 games is too lenient. Somehow that escapes Jason Cole and his Krafty Bob lackeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 he'll have more time for Alex Guerrero's metrosexual treatments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 These twits live in alternate reality. If brady took the hit when it all came out he likely sits a game and pays a few sheckles. But he chose the other option and forced the NFL's hand. I don't know many people who think the guy is an innocent pawn in all this, the debate seems to be more on severity of the penalty. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Wow, listening to all the talk radio right now, the feelings are mixed, and the announcers are short on facts.. This decision had nothing, well almost nothing to do with the facts that led to the suspension. It had everything to do with the procedure of determining gathering of said facts, and the power to rule on a punishment. I said this wayyyy way back, and I'm glad I was vindicated. Like it or not, the NFLPA gave all this power to a single individual named Roger God.. Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Per 98.5 Sports Hub - they said they schedule is "really easy" for first 4 games and that may have been intentional. They also think he will get it reduced to 2 games so his return is on TNF week 3. Edited April 25, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 If they try and appeal Supreme Court be like... I'm glad the chief justice is a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Led by Jason Cole on Jim Rome. It's freakin' amazing how certain members of the media act like such shills for Brady and the Pats** tap dancing around the facts and harping about what a severe punishment this is for such a minor offense. For just deflating balls, it is severe. For a team with a history of cheating obstructing an NFL investigation? 4 games is too lenient. Somehow that escapes Jason Cole and his Krafty Bob lackeys. I have to believe Brady destroying his cell phone just before meeting with Wells factored in to the 4 games more than previous history: http://deadspin.com/the-full-story-of-tom-bradys-destroyed-cell-phone-1722190784 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Per 98.5 Sports Hub - they said they schedule is "really easy" for first 4 games and that may have been intentional. They also think he will get it reduced to 2 games so his return is on TNF week 3. How?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) How?????? they are in denial Edited April 25, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 How??????Probably because had he followed normal protocols for internal league matters that was a real possibility. And they somehow believe his FU to the league won't factor in. But it's hard to believe a 2 game suspension is an option now barring him winning another appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 they are in denial Yeah they are full of soft takes today. Yuck. Calling on the NFL to negotiate now that they have finally eliminated most if not all of the open doors....homer takes!! Pathetic. Let's see what the NFLPA and Brady do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 This will not be reduced. Brady had a chance to take a plea deal. He decided not to take it. He pushed the NFL to go to court and challenged them. Now after like 30 million dollar spent on this case by the NFL, Brady will now serve his punishment for lying and deflating footballs. Brady has been found guilty and this is the end of the legal process. The Supreme Court will not touch this. Roger has the last laugh. Brady might have won a small battle but Roger and the NFL won the war. Now it's time for Brady to head to his little corner and suck his thump and cry, cry like the baby he his. He will now serve his punishment like he should have. Finally justice has prevailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 It would be nice if those first 3 games were against tougher opponents. If NE goes 0-4 for the first 4 games it could possibly tip the balance of power in the division in our favor. Also, this gives us the chance to turn an almost automatic loss into a win, which could have playoff implications. One win more than we bargained for, hopefully...but we have to seize the opportunity here! I think I'd rather take the away game without Brady and the home field advantage with him. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 They also think he will get it reduced to 2 games so his return is on TNF week 3. They must be dense. Brady already filed a league appeal. It happened last June. Goodell had Troy Vincent give out intial punishment so that he could oversee the appeal. He upheld the suspension because Brady destroyed his phone. That's why this whole thing went to court. Are they really that thick? This will not be reduced. Brady had a chance to take a plea deal. He decided not to take it. He pushed the NFL to go to court and challenged them. Now after like 30 million dollar spent on this case by the NFL, Brady will now serve his punishment for lying and deflating footballs. Brady has been found guilty and this is the end of the legal process. The Supreme Court will not touch this. Roger has the last laugh. Brady might have won a small battle but Roger and the NFL won the war. Now it's time for Brady to head to his little corner and suck his thump and cry, cry like the baby he his. He will now serve his punishment like he should have. Finally justice has prevailed. Are people forgetting what happened? Brady never had a plea deal. Goodell oversaw the league appeal and upheld Troy Vincents punishment. That's why this whole thing went to court. Brady thought it wasn't fair that Goodell oversaw the appeal. There was never going to be a plea deal for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 They must be dense. Brady already filed a league appeal. It happened last June. Goodell had Troy Vincent give out intial punishment so that he could oversee the appeal. He upheld the suspension because Brady destroyed his phone. That's why this whole thing went to court. Are they really that thick? Are people forgetting what happened? Brady never had a plea deal. Goodell oversaw the league appeal and upheld Troy Vincents punishment. That's why this whole thing went to court. Brady thought it wasn't fair that Goodell oversaw the appeal. There was never going to be a plea deal for him. Yes, of course. The NFL isn't going to back down from their position of 4 games suspended, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Bills Fan Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Rex Ryan is our head coach. The Pats still have a major advantage. Exactly. Jimmy G should easily be able to tear up the defense that Rex destroyed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Pats and Bills both very well could be 10-6 and Bills would have better conference record assuming we sweep Jets and Fins. AFC East title is in play if we don't blow it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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