Homey D. Clown Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The fact this is making NFL headlines says a lot about how far we as a nation haven't come on the acceptance of sexual orientation. sad really. But I don't even see why a player has to publicly declare his sexual orientation anyway, I think it's stupid to make a big deal of it in any career. Adversely, calling attention to your own sexuality seems to be a childish ploy to draw attention to yourself in my opinion. So your gay, whoop-de frickin do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) I wish it didn't matter. Hopefully in the future, people can be whatever sexuality they are without feeling shamed. Edit: I'd obviously support whomever came out. I'd be proud if it were a Bill. Edited March 27, 2013 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The fact this is making NFL headlines says a lot about how far we as a nation haven't come on the acceptance of sexual orientation. sad really. But I don't even see why a player has to publicly declare his sexual orientation anyway, I think it's stupid to make a big deal of it in any career. Adversely, calling attention to your own sexuality seems to be a childish ploy to draw attention to yourself in my opinion. So your gay, whoop-de frickin do! I see where your heart is in the right place (first paragraph) but I think you're missing the point (last sentence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 If any person cares about anyone's sexuality, you probably are the most closted homosexual alive. People need to just worry about themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsinytown Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 This thread exists because in the digital age, whether we like it or not, issues like this will be discussed down to the smallest detail. I think in most cases that's a good thing, but since this is a "hot button" issue, it's been talked into the ground. That being said, I'm glad to see that most people here really don't care one way or the other, which shows the proper perspective. For us, this is entertainment, and even though we're all very passionate about it, we need to remember that we have very little real connection to the lives of the players, and that's they way it should be. Whether a player is gay or not shouldn't matter at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 this really should be such a non-issue. Who in the hell cares if an NFL player (or anyone else) is gay? Their personal life is just that, personal. I would not care in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLS02138 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) The problem with sexuality has nothing to do with football. Nothing to do with marriage. But everything to do with the fact that sexuality is like a pendulum. Very few people on this planet are 100% straight and 100% gay. Most of you will deny it but at some point - you may have had curiosities - tendencies - man crushes - you may have used alcohol as an excuse why you may have accidentally "played" with your buddy that one time in college or grade school... You would not believe how many people in this society go both ways - but identify as straight and gay. The numbers are so high - that is the reason why it creates such tension and instability in politics, religion and society. Do you know how many married str8 men play with other men and straight married women play with other women (which in society, is ok, as long as they are drop dead gorgeous, right)? Check out your local craigslist or adult friend finder sites - the numbers are there. Sexuality will never go away - as long as the straight society continues to act like its a choice when the funny thing - you never wake up one day and decide to be str8 or had any question about it? It's not a switch. We have done experiments on OKCupid - Match.com and Christianmingles websites - we created straight and bi test profiles on these sites - and then took the opportunity to hit on other straight guys. The numbers are alarming as the number of men who have responded favorably to our solicitations. Not all men - but a day wouldn't go by where at least 5-8 straight guys would either hit up our profiles or respond favorably to ours. Common responses: "Although I am straight, I do have bi curious tendencies..." "I'd be willing to play with another man as long as a woman is present in bed..." "I am definitely bi but can never actually go through with it..." "Catch me when I'm drunk and I'll play with you in a heartbeat..." That folks - is the reason why this topic - which is nothing more than being freaking HUMAN - is nothing more than a joke because humanity is so insecure with itself. If you have create a law that hurts a limited number of people just to prove your morals or faith, you have no true morals or faith to prove. Edited March 27, 2013 by BILLS02138 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The problem with sexuality has nothing to do with football. Nothing to do with marriage. But everything to do with the fact that sexuality is like a pendulum. Very few people on this planet are 100% and 100% gay. Most of you will deny it but at some point - but you have had curiosities - you have had tendencies - you have had man crushes - you have used alcohol as a reason why you may have accidentally "played" with your buddy that one time in college or grade school... You would not believe how many people in this society go both ways - but identify as straight and gay. The numbers are so high - that is the reason why it creates such tension and instability in politics, religion and society. Do you know how many married str8 men play with other men and straight married women play with other women (which in society, is ok, as long as they are drop dead gorgeous, right)? Check out your local craigslist or adult friend finder sites - the numbers are alarming. Alarming might not be the right word - but it's real. Sexuality will never go away - as long as the straight society continues to act like it’s a choice when the funny thing - they never woke up one day and decided to be str8. We have done experiments on OKCupid - Match.Com and Christiansingles websites - we created straight and bi test profiles on these sites - and then took the opportunitiy to hit on other straight guys. The numbers are alarming as the numbers of men who have responded favorably to our solicitations. Not all men - but a day wouldn't go by where at least 5 straight guys would either hit up our profiles or respond favorably to ours. Common responses: "Although I am straight, I do have bi curious tendencies..." "I'd be willing to play with another man as long as a woman is present in bed..." "I am definitely bi but can never actually go through with it..." 'Catch me when I'm drunk and I'll play with you in a heartbeat..." That folks - is the reason why this topic - which is nothing more than being !@#$ING HUMAN - is nothing more than a joke because humanity is so insecure with itself. If you have to make a law that hurts a number of people just to prove your morals or faith, you have no true morals or faith to prove. Well I would say you speak for some percentage of the population. How much of it I don't know nor do I care. But it's good that you have strong enough feelings on the matter to make one of your infrequent posts and to do so with conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Personal opinions get you warnings , be careful ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Does anyone think there are NO gay players in the NFL? Hey its not like this is still much of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I knew Stevie had some sugar in his tank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/n...-saying-hes-gay If it was a Bill would it change your opinion of him? None of my business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Bob Chandler Lance Alworth heck, anyone named Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Personal opinions get you warnings , be careful ... id imagine that far from true if you share said opinions respectfully.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 My understanding is that it's more like 3.5 percent of the population, not 2 percent. http://en.wikipedia....e_United_States OMG ITS AN EPIDEMIC OF THE GAY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Based on their reluctance to put a hand on ball carriers, I'm pretty sure the player isn't on the Bills defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 OMG ITS AN EPIDEMIC OF THE GAY!! they nearly doubled in this thread alone. by days end we will all be gay at this rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I could care less. I think both sides of the debate would actually hate to see the "issue" resolved since the advocacy for either side is a multi-million dollar business, not to mention, all of the attention that comes along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 In a way, I almost hope it's a Bills player. Finally get some positive publicity for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I have no issue what so ever. It's their life and I hold no judgement. It seems like there is so much build up for an active gay player to come out which is sad because if everybody was ok with it then it wouldnt be a big deal if someone came out. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I, for one, would probably think more highly of him, and think he was likely one of the toughest players on the team. And this is exactly why said player would do it: more attention, book deals, etc. No one really cares. As the player in the article said, none of the fellow players would care. Women play D1 football, really, only the media would care and sensationalize it. I have no issue what so ever. It's their life and I hold no judgement. It seems like there is so much build up for an active gay player to come out which is sad because if everybody was ok with it then it wouldnt be a big deal if someone came out. CBF Why do people have to publicly come out? People on his team may already know he's gay? Does every gay (or straight person) need to come out with a deceleration of their sexual orientation? I really don't care what people do in their personal lives. I have my own moral opinions about it, but I wouldn't discriminate either way against those who hold different views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Who cares? Regardless of what team he plays on, good for him. Why the hell should he hide and not be who he is? IMO, Frank Ocean coming out of the closet had a WAY higher risk factor than anyone in the NFL coming out. Good for whoever this person is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'm not so sure I agree with you. I think that there may be some hate but by in large that person will be protected. In fact I think even more than the non gay players. Would you want to be the coach that is faced with having to cut the first gay player? Would you like to be the men that play the same position as the gay player, feeling like you'll get cut before they will? I do think there will be whispers and stuff like that, but there won't be an outrage. This person is going to be exalted. Yeah, being the "first" may cause some uncomfortable moments for some people....but, you know, it didn't stop Jackie Robinson or Charles Follis. There has to be a first for everything. That is how things evolve. http://www.nfl.com/n...-saying-hes-gay If it was a Bill would it change your opinion of him? No, we will probably still think he sucks...in the traditional sports way of sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) And this is exactly why said player would do it: more attention, book deals, etc. No one really cares. As the player in the article said, none of the fellow players would care. Women play D1 football, really, only the media would care and sensationalize it. Why do people have to publicly come out? People on his team may already know he's gay? Does every gay (or straight person) need to come out with a deceleration of their sexual orientation? I really don't care what people do in their personal lives. I have my own moral opinions about it, but I wouldn't discriminate either way against those who hold different views. Why do people keep asking why does he have to come out? Are you guys serious with this question? You do realize he and other fellow gay players have to live a lie publicly everyday. They don't get to go to gay bars, go to dinner with a boyfriend, or go out anywhere as themselves living as a gay man. If they do, TMZ, Deadspin, and all media would be all over that about how they "discovered" that "X" player is gay which would be way worse than just coming out and makin it known on their own terms. If they want to be free to live their lives as themselves they have to come out publicly because this society and our media are still ignorant enough to care about ones sexuality. Racism and homosexual prejudice are still an issue in modern society. The fact that this is even a story shows just how big of an issue it still is, which it shouldn't be. Funny, if a player came out and said he only liked fat chicks it wouldn't even be a story. Edited March 27, 2013 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Funny, if a player came out and said he only liked fat chicks it wouldn't even be a story. It's already out.... https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1863477485/image.jpg Based on their reluctance to put a hand on ball carriers, I'm pretty sure the player isn't on the Bills defense. Best response so far they nearly doubled in this thread alone. by days end we will all be gay at this rate! It's Wikipedia, you can edit it to any percentage you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Let's consider this...A Robert Griffin III or Andrew Luck quality player who is openly gay is in this year's draft and because of his coming up actually makes it to round 8. I'm talking flaming, lisping, listening to Broadway show tunes gay...but he throws like Dan Marino, runs around like Michael Vick, and has the football mind of Jim Kelly, Johnny Unitas and Peyton Manning rolled up in one....do you draft him? Draft Him?....I'd friggin draft him, adopt him and serve as a ringbearer at his wedding!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 What if the player was William Gay of the Steelers? Seriously though, it wouldn't bother me, but I am not one of the drunk idiots in the stands down by the field on sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I guess the question I should of asked is: Considering that it's estimated that 10% of the overall population is gay, do you think this man's courage will lead to the other 160 or so gay NFL players to come out? Should have, should have! Sorry, pet peeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I can see the player being Aaron Maybin...i always wondered about that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I can see the player being Aaron Maybin...i always wondered about that guy. Could be but......Maybinot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 In a way, I almost hope it's a Bills player. Finally get some positive publicity for the team. So, you think jokes about the Bills "tackling like sissies" would be positive publicity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 Should have, should have! Sorry, pet peeve. Fixed - thanks for the catch. As a writer, mistakes like that drive me crazy, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANCOCK Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It'll be pretty kool there's tons of gay football fans like myself. Makes no sense why they have to be in the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Fixed - thanks for the catch. As a writer, mistakes like that drive me crazy, too. Thank you. I don't want to be the correction police because I know that can get on peoples nerves. So thanks for understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It'll be pretty kool there's tons of gay football fans like myself. Makes no sense why they have to be in the closet. What's gay football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Funny, if a player came out and said he only liked fat chicks it wouldn't even be a story. Tell that to Ted Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 What's gay football? The version where every play is jamming the tight ends at the line of scrimmage. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/n...-saying-hes-gay If it was a Bill would it change your opinion of him? Kordell Stewart signing a 1 day contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Personal opinions get you warnings , be careful ... No, they do not when expressed correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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