MJS Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 What an idiot. He can't stay out of trouble for a few months before the biggest and most impactful event of his life (the draft)? Take him off the draft board. We don't need idiots on the team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Put the young man in a rehab/community service program and we’ll take him in the 5th but, this means KC or PHI will draft him now Cleveland will go all in and move up to draft him in the 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, MJS said: What an idiot. He can't stay out of trouble for a few months before the biggest and most impactful event of his life (the draft)? Take him off the draft board. We don't need idiots on the team. You mean like this? https://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/04/my-draft-day-memory-warren-sapp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: You mean like this? https://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/04/my-draft-day-memory-warren-sapp Yep, let someone else take the idiot. If he turns into a hall of famer, good for them. But chances are he won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Yep, let someone else take the idiot. If he turns into a hall of famer, good for them. But chances are he won't. Have you ever driven drunk? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 5 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Have you ever driven drunk? Never. Have you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 5 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Have you ever driven drunk? Na he/she is perfect. Never done anything wrong.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I really want him. Does your wife know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I swear to god that this guy has posted in this thread 'Drinking_And_Driving_Can_Mix'.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 10 minutes ago, MJS said: Never. Have you? Many times and unfortunately many people do. I am 7 years sober in May but in my mind drinking is problematic if someone one is driving 100mph under the influence or if they have a drug addiction and a dependency on alcohol but would I take him off our board completely? Hell no. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 39 minutes ago, MJS said: What an idiot. He can't stay out of trouble for a few months before the biggest and most impactful event of his life (the draft)? Take him off the draft board. We don't need idiots on the team. Less then 3 weeks to go and he cant have a friend to drive, order an uber or just not drink at all. Some of these guys are complete idiots. Cant fix dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 It’s 2024. How in the world do people not take Uber? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Less then 3 weeks to go and he cant have a friend to drive, order an uber or just not drink at all. Some of these guys are complete idiots. Cant fix dumb. Oh, I agree but should we take him off of our board completely? If he’s there at #128 would you pass him up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Thank God, he might make it to 60. we hit on that 2 years in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Never wanted him anyways. Large as can be and has limited pass rush outside of a bull rush. Strikes me as out of league in 4 years or 2 down run stuffer. I don’t see Vita Vea at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 53 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Does your wife know? She's laying next to me. I just asked her, she said she doesn't care 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I’m not thinking this hurts his draft position much. Someone will be happy to take him in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 McB are boy scouts. They won't touch him now. Andy on the other hand will see this opportunity as a stroke of luck. And the wheel continues round and round.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, MJS said: Yep, let someone else take the idiot. If he turns into a hall of famer, good for them. But chances are he won't. I have seen him play and I want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, MJS said: What an idiot. He can't stay out of trouble for a few months before the biggest and most impactful event of his life (the draft)? Take him off the draft board. We don't need idiots on the team. More like a few weeks..but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 T'Vondre because after naming their last kid Josh they just said ***** it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: Many times and unfortunately many people do. I am 7 years sober in May but in my mind drinking is problematic if someone one is driving 100mph under the influence or if they have a drug addiction and a dependency on alcohol but would I take him off our board completely? Hell no. It's not just drinking and driving, which is horrible by itself, it's also that he is dumb enough to do it so close to the most important time of his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 He is now a second rounder. The Second round is where Felons and injured guys get drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, BillsFan2313 said: Na he/she is perfect. Never done anything wrong.... I sure as heck wouldn't be drinking and partying and driving weeks before the NFL draft if I had a chance of getting drafted. I'd be doing everything possible to keep my nose clean and make sure no team has a reason to doubt me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, bobobonators said: It’s 2024. How in the world do people not take Uber? Ummm….because he was drunk? Drinking to excess and poor decision making go hand in hand. A better question is why he didn’t have someone with him for the evening to make sure he didn’t do anything stupid. He must have an agent, and you’d think the agent has a financial interest to make sure his clients are protected leading up to the draft. 10 minutes ago, MJS said: I sure as heck wouldn't be drinking and partying and driving weeks before the NFL draft if I had a chance of getting drafted. I'd be doing everything possible to keep my nose clean and make sure no team has a reason to doubt me. Definitely makes you pause before giving the guy your millions and valuable roster/cap space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: He is now a second rounder. The Second round is where Felons and injured guys get drafted. He was a 2nd/3rd rounder to begin with even before this 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 6 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Three weeks away from maybe the most important day(s) of his life and he drives drunk. Most GMs say the combine drug test isn't a drug test at all, it's an idiot test. If you can't stop smoking weed for a month before the most important day(s) of your life, you sure as hell won't stop when given millions of dollars. The same applies to this behavior. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 This is a pretty bad look if I’m a GM. I’m talking remove from the board entirely type of look. Dude can’t even control himself knowing millions of dollars are on the line? Now for us.. if he slips.. I’d take him as a value pick and lean on the culture built. We’ve been losing to teams who take chances on these guys, so I’d take on the risk. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 The Bills dont seem to pick these massive DTs … and he is one of the biggest I can recall in recent years … but if he is still there at 128 why not? He seems to have fallen down the mock drafts since the Senior Bowl… but at one stage he seemed like a 40-50 range pick … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: I'm posting this because I've seen a lot of people peg him as a Bills target in the 2nd round, although I never thought he would make it to our pick. With this news it's possible he falls down the board. PURE STUPIDITY!! 9 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Depending. The circumstances of the arrest. the degree of intoxication. and yea , does the kid have any history of irresponsibility I just can t say Bills will now look away. Expecting them look deeper into him. He could be a great fit behind DQ and take over that role soon. Could actually be effective year one in that McD rotation. imho Marcel Dareus all over again?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 3 hours ago, SCBills said: This is a pretty bad look if I’m a GM. I’m talking remove from the board entirely type of look. Dude can’t even control himself knowing millions of dollars are on the line? Now for us.. if he slips.. I’d take him as a value pick and lean on the culture built. We’ve been losing to teams who take chances on these guys, so I’d take on the risk. The majority of our "culture" guys are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 9 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Never wanted him anyways. Large as can be and has limited pass rush outside of a bull rush. Strikes me as out of league in 4 years or 2 down run stuffer. I don’t see Vita Vea at all He certainly isn't Vita Vea. I have a latish 2nd on him, but I actually was quite impressed with how much he gets into the backfield and how quick he is off the snap for a guy his size. But I think his ceiling is a good 1T. It would have surprised me if he got out of round two previously, but it wasn't impossible. I think he'd have gone 2nd half of the second round. Now I think he is at more serious risk of going in the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Wow, my take here: Sounds like the line in Kris Kristofferson's song, Sunday Morning Coming Down, "the beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad, so I had one more for dessert". Sweat was arrested at 2:12pm not AM! Day drinking at its worst? Mimosas at brunch? Still hammered from SAT night? Might very well drop a couple rounds now and be a late 4th rounder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) Well, I'm still taking him and hopefully he makes it to 60. If he was from Ga. and someone died in a horrific wreck because of his involvement, this story wouldn't last more than a day....and then Philly would take him in the 1st round. Edited April 8 by nosejob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 16 hours ago, HappyDays said: I'm posting this because I've seen a lot of people peg him as a Bills target in the 2nd round, although I never thought he would make it to our pick. With this news it's possible he falls down the board. Personally, I’ve had him as an early to mid 3rd rounder. He wouldn’t be my target in 2nd. I wouldn’t have hated taking him there, but I just think there will be players at 60 I would take over him the way I think then draft falls. Now if this pushes him down into the 4th, then run to the podium and get him. I wouldn’t be upset if we traded up from our 4th to still get him in the 3rd either. Edited April 8 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 16 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: If it's in direct proportion to what Jim Lahey could hold, you're going to need Punching Bag's special reserve he was gifted. 🤔 “ I am the liquor “ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 48 minutes ago, nosejob said: Well, I'm still taking him and hopefully he makes it to 60. If he was from Ga. and someone died in a horrific wreck because of his involvement, this story wouldn't last more than a day....and then Philly would take him in the 1st round. Difference was Philly's guy was arguably the most talented player in his draft class and fell a few spots down because of some off the field issues. Similar to Warren Sapp. Sweat on the other hand at best is a 2nd Round pick but might fall the mid 3rd to 4th because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) Has it been stated that this was alcohol? Because driving while intoxicated could also be weed, and that makes a lot more sense for an afternoon arrest. Judging from the aroma coming from cars at stoplights in Cincinnati, a significant portion of the population drives around smoking weed all day every day. Edited April 8 by Low Positive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) The type of player that will jump offside on a 4th and 1 hard count. Edited April 8 by Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Bad decision by the young man. Still one heck of a prospect at the 1-Tech position and it's the first off-the-field incident that I have heard of in regard to him. I imagine it may drop him a little, but not sure how much it of an effect it will have on him at this point. At some point you would think these guys would learn. But then again, the alcohol will always "tell" you otherwise in the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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