Low Positive Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, sullim4 said: I don't think this is correct. BUF's longest runway is 8800 feet and IAG (Niagara International) has a 9,800 foot runway. Either of these could accommodate something like a 787. In fact, they flew one an A350 (Airbus' composite widebody) to London from BUF. Not to mention other team's charters have to land in Buffalo, and they typically fly widebodies. I suspect the travel rating is low because the team forces rookies and other players with less tenure to share hotel rooms. I didn't know that but that would be why. These things are like student evaluations of college classes/professors. Sometimes they have legitimate complaints, but most of the time they are complaining because the class was challenging and/or they don't expect a good grade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 48 minutes ago, Lost said: Classic bit from Lewis Black. Nice post! 1 hour ago, BisonMan said: One of the travel issues may be traced back to BIA. The runway is not rated for larger commercial aircraft from both length and aircraft weight requirements. This limits the team to smaller, less comfortable jets for travel. From experience traveling more than 100,000 miles per year, I’d much rather sit in a 757/767 than a 737 (even if the doors stay on) and I’m only 5’9”. BIA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Surprised Bills only had B in treatment of families as players seem to remark in the press that this is one of the reasons why they like Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I’m happy we have good grades, but the whole thing seems weird to me. I don’t understand how making this stuff public benefits anyone. It forces owners not to be cheap. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, beebe said: Hunt family promised them improved locker rooms. Then they won the Super Bowl and of all the promises made, none of them were kept except for getting the players chairs to sit on instead of stools. Well, I guess what that really means is that Hunt rhymes with……….. Edited February 28 by ControllerOfPlanetX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 They travel on a wide body Delta jet and stay in nice hotels. How bad can travel be? Unless the grade is due to the poorly timed London trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 hours ago, Logic said: Also of interest to me: The Chiefs players giving their team owner an F-. F- !!! Did the Hunt family personally slap the players' wives? Like...F- is BAD, man. Agree the Chiefs ratings are interesting for a team that keeps winning Super Bowls especially... Head Coach A+ Ownership F- Plus a lot of low ratings. Basically, they love Andy Reid but hate the rest of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said: The airplane and food ratings are pretty concerning. It's probably not a good thing for the team to deal with an extremely uncomfortable flight out for away games. This isn't Spirit Airlines. Every single % point for performance matters here. Do better. Airplane is probably directly related to lack of direct flights from Buffalo. This results in longer flights and layovers players do not like. Type of planes serving Buffalo too. Buffalo Airport is much easier to access than many others but may not have the high end shops some players want. Having to fly to England this year did not help. And Bills should stop charging players for peanuts. 41 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Well, I guess what that really means is that Hunt rhymes with……….. Bunt. Avoiding three strikes you are out. 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: It forces owners not to be cheap. Lol. or kickbacks to vote collectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 I don’t know for sure, but the team travel grade is probably a reflection of the NFL’s London experiment. They went over there a few days before the game and were expected to play a team that had been there over 10 days. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Bills should send their top notch trainers to KC to generate more injuries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Fire McD NOW for the Chiefs receiving an F for training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: Airplane is probably directly related to lack of direct flights from Buffalo. This results in longer flights and layovers players do not like. Type of planes serving Buffalo too. Buffalo Airport is much easier to access than many others but may not have the high end shops some players want. They fly on chartered planes---they aren't running through O'Hare to make connections, nor perusing the duty free shops for cartons of smokes and bottles of Johnny Black..... Their beef is that players are in economy and staff is in business/1st class. it was just on the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 hours ago, BisonMan said: One of the travel issues may be traced back to BIA. The runway is not rated for larger commercial aircraft from both length and aircraft weight requirements. This limits the team to smaller, less comfortable jets for travel. From experience traveling more than 100,000 miles per year, I’d much rather sit in a 757/767 than a 737 (even if the doors stay on) and I’m only 5’9”. Bills have charted 767s out of Buffalo. Teams have flown in on 787s, 330s, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Specifics on McD: 98% of players feel head coach Sean McDermott is efficient with their time (4th overall) Players feel that head coach Sean McDermott is very willing to listen to the locker room (11th overall) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 hours ago, Logic said: Also of interest: The Chiefs players give their training room a D and their training staff an F. Interesting... They clearly do not need training other than that some of the time they will be penalized for lining up on wrong side of the line of scrimage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 5 hours ago, Lost said: If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: I don’t know for sure, but the team travel grade is probably a reflection of the NFL’s London experiment. They went over there a few days before the game and were expected to play a team that had been there over 10 days. Interesting that Good(forNothing)ell is not being rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 This is so embarrassing for these teams... Two financial nuggets that stood out, given that they are tied to billion-dollar franchises: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who finished 24th overall, charged non-starting players with less than four years of experience a fee of $1,750 if they wanted to opt out of having a roommate in their hotel room prior to games. And the Chargers offered a discount on gameday daycare services: $75 for the first child and $50 for each additional child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Thought this was notable from recent retiree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: This is so embarrassing for these teams... Two financial nuggets that stood out, given that they are tied to billion-dollar franchises: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who finished 24th overall, charged non-starting players with less than four years of experience a fee of $1,750 if they wanted to opt out of having a roommate in their hotel room prior to games. And the Chargers offered a discount on gameday daycare services: $75 for the first child and $50 for each additional child. I don't know which is more appalling to see The roommate one just seems cheap and lazy The child care one is a slap in the face, the cost for daycare/child care is insane these days but the amount of money the chargers collect on a game to game basis is laughable. (Unless I'm underestimating the amount of children getting care on game days) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, beebe said: Hunt family promised them improved locker rooms. Then they won the Super Bowl and of all the promises made, none of them were kept except for getting the players chairs to sit on instead of stools. Gotta keep the laborers yearning for more. Maybe that’s the secret sauce to their success? C’mon Pegula! Take notes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 hours ago, Logic said: Apparently, living in Miami and playing for a cool bro does wonders for a player's impressions of the team they play for. He was so cringe on hard knocks though. He’s only cool when times are good. Then he comes off like an actor trying to play the role of a coach on a Netflix show. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 hours ago, elroy16 said: These are from players ranking the different categories, solid overall. I'm surprised by the food/nutritionist part. Every "First 24 hours" or other video like to talk about the cafeteria and all the options they have. Time for Pegula to write a check. DAMN CHICKEN WINGS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Bills players seem to love their coach, owner and training facilities. Poor grades for travel, but I wonder how much of that is impacted by the weather issues that are essentially acts of God and out of the organization's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Tyler Dunne is seething right now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He was so cringe on hard knocks though. He’s only cool when times are good. Then he comes off like an actor trying to play the role of a coach on a Netflix show. I totally agree with you. I think McDaniel's schtick has only worked so far because things have been going well for the Dolphins. The moment they hit a rough patch, I'll be very interested to see if players and media continue to find him so charming. I happen to think he's closer to flaming out as head coach of that team than he is to breaking through to consistent success. I view him as an amazing offensive mind who will have a very long and successful career as a coordinator, but doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach. Guess we'll see. And on a side note...it's good to see you back, YOLO. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I will take a few Lombardi's and the players hating Pegula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 24 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I will take a few Lombardi's and the players hating Pegula Art Modell is perfect owner for you and he was even in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I don't know which is more appalling to see The roommate one just seems cheap and lazy The child care one is a slap in the face, the cost for daycare/child care is insane these days but the amount of money the chargers collect on a game to game basis is laughable. (Unless I'm underestimating the amount of children getting care on game days) Travis Henry would like a word with you. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 10 hours ago, beebe said: The NFL is kinda doing some of these teams dirty, the owners specifically. Clark Hunt F- is going to get all the headlines, and when I saw it at first I viewed it as the players have a strong dislike toward him and potential mistreatment. But if you read the survey, the question is asked to rate your owner "when considering his willingness to invest in the facilities." KC's locker room, weight room and training room are all subpar and way below standard for an NFL team, let alone a successful one. But Clark likely doesn't want to dump a bunch of money into short-term upgrades with the planned stadium renovation coming up for vote this year (new arrowhead unveiled today). One of the things that stuck out most to me is how much players seem to like their coaches. Belichick in basically the worst year of his career still got a B-minus. Sean Payton, who I thought the Broncos players hated, actually got an A-. Only three coaches got less than a B-minus, and one of them was presumably Josh McDaniels, who was canned midseason. Of the nine coaches who got B or worse, only the Browns made the playoffs. This isn't coming from the NFL, though. This is an NFLPA survey. It's very interesting, no doubt. It's also very subjective/skewed. So many player votes are coming from young guys who lack job security and get paid fractions of what their highly drafted, or veteran vested, teammates see in each game check. It's an almost itinerant existence for so many back half of the roster players. A random injury, or sudden trade or signing, can lead to being inactive on gameday, or waived all together. Guys can get fired several times by the same team in the same season. Yet, they're STILL paid much better than the VAST majority of people will ever be. A year or two of fringe NFL rostering can net several decades worth of median US earnings. I'm sure this blend of privilege, risk, and relentless competition can easily lead to negatively reported employee perceptions of their even richer, whiter employers. It's the nature of the NFL machine. To see positive ratings for much of anything on these surveys is no small feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Tyler Dunne is seething right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Based on where this franchise was, the age of the stadium, and location... 11th is pretty fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: A year or two of fringe NFL rostering can net several decades worth of median US earnings. I'm sure this blend of privilege, risk, and relentless competition can easily lead to negatively reported employee perceptions of their even richer, whiter employers. It's the nature of the NFL machine. To see positive ratings for much of anything on these surveys is no small feat. Not all of the fringe NFL rostering players are "lighter" or even all of the employers are white (Jacksonville). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 this was last year and they were ranked 9th overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I'd say Food Service grade is consistent with the fan experience too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Food/cafeteria is a C? Well obviously they haven’t had the Turkey burgers. Obviously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 What’s with the low grade on team travel? That should be easy to improve. Did I hear last year they make the young guys share rooms? Do they choose a lower level of accomodations? I can’t say I know what the dissatisfaction is about, but I’d be interested to know more. They have gone all in on facilities, and travel seems so much simpler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Did the Giants maintain a low score regarding nutrition? They will always be epitomized to me by Gettleman the Lunch Lady chasing Kelvin Benjamin around, ragging on Kelvin's Rice Krispie squares snacks. Probably pissed that meant fewer for Gettleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 13 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Bills players seem to love their coach, owner and training facilities. Poor grades for travel, but I wonder how much of that is impacted by the weather issues that are essentially acts of God and out of the organization's hands. Yup, between blizzards and worthless trips to London, I'm sure they're fed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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