BigBadBills Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 ST? DC? OC? what changes do you think Buffalo will make? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Realistically, I expect McD to move back to HC, promote Washington or Babich to DC, and probably hire Brady as OC. And Smiley stays on ST and gets a chance with a HC helping out. That is, imo, minimal changes on a staff that needs change but wont change much. 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 ST seems the most likely. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Smiley and Washington out. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Brady will be the OC. If we bring in or promote a DC they will have very little influence. I don’t expect anybody to even have the leash Frazier did again. McD is not about best man for the job, he’s about falling in line and doing things the way he wants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Maybe a couple of lower level lateral transfers but that's about it. Going from 6-6 to the 2 seed and a playoff win saved a lot of jobs. McDermott may give someone the title of DC but he'll continue to call plays imo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Special teams coordinator has got to go 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) It's McD, he'll scapegoat somebody. It'll be the ST coach, he has nobody else. And he'll never take accountability for himself. Edited January 23 by HomeskillitMoorman 3 1 3 3 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: It's McD, he'll scapegoat somebody. It'll be the ST coach, he has nobody else. And he'll never take accountability for himself. We heard the same thing when he fired Dorsey and Frazier. It doesn't mean they were the wrong moves though. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Special teams was a major factor in the Bills losing a few games this year (at Jets, at Eagles, DEN, KC, very nearly at LAC), and was a major factor in the Bills winning one game (at MIA). I would hope they would at least look at that and figure out wtf happened there from a management perspective. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We heard the same thing when he fired Dorsey and Frazier. It doesn't mean they were the wrong moves though. Both units got worse after the moves were made so I'd say yeah they were the wrong ones 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 While I don't always agree with him, this breakdown shows the inefficiencies of the offense at times. As good as the offense was at times last night against a great defense, there are several things that could have been done better just by paying attention to the details. I know some of it may be on the players, but there are definite flaws in the play designs and the coaching of the WRs. I know Brady isn't a lock yet to be back, but if I had to guess, he'll be back. But he needs to get into the lab and iron out some of these details. I think Chad Hall leaving last season really hurt the WR room as well. You can see in this breakdown just where the lack of coaching is holding this offense back and why it is so hard on Allen and why he is forced to be Superman all the time. He has to overcome so much. So, in addition to the ST coach and DL coach being fired (I hope), I want a new WR coach and, if Brady is back, more attention to details and route spacing. Take the time to watch this.....you will see just how unprepared these players are because of bad coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Don’t see too many changes to be honest maybe a few position coaches. But I think all coordinators will remain the same. I don’t see any reason why McDermott would give up his DC position considering all the injuries. We were 6-6, left for dead and McDermott made chicken salad out of chicken shyt. Edited January 23 by BillMafia716ix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Mike Vrabel would get this team over the top!! Overachieved with an average, at best, QB. Would look to build a team suitable for Buffalo weather. I became a fan of his when he out-Belichicked Bill Belichick and lead his team to a victory 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Realistically, I expect McD to move back to HC, promote Washington or Babich to DC, and probably hire Brady as OC. And Smiley stays on ST and gets a chance with a HC helping out. That is, imo, minimal changes on a staff that needs change but wont change much. I would really like to see what Babich could do He has all of the makings of good coach 21 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Don’t see too many changes to be honest maybe a few position coaches. But I think all coordinators will remain the same. I don’t see any reason why McDermott would give up his DC position considering all the injuries. We were 6-6, left for dead and McDermott made chicken salad out of chicken shyt. I agree with you right up until the last game very disappointed on the production of our defensive line in that game. They should’ve been chasing Mahomes all over the place and never touched him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I would really like to see what Babich could do He has all of the makings of good coach I agree with you right up until the last game very disappointed on the production of our defensive line in that game. They should’ve been chasing Mahomes all over the place and never touched him. Thats not coaching. Players have to win their matchups. They were playing well up until that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill51390 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Special Teams coach is 100% gone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 It seems like the Bills always have lots of injuries. Is that the strength and conditioning coach's fault, or just luck? Will there be changes there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Matt Smiley should be fired and I know he has only been here 5 minutes but I'd question Adam Henry's job too given receiver performance. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: It's McD, he'll scapegoat somebody. It'll be the ST coach, he has nobody else. And he'll never take accountability for himself. Maybe he should fire himself? 5 hours ago, BigBadBills said: ST? DC? OC? what changes do you think Buffalo will make? I would be absolutely shocked if Matt Smiley was special teams coordinator last season. I know that he is liked but aside from the Harty TD against Miami, his units have been and cost the Bills multiple chances to win (NYJ, DEN, KC among others) I don’t see how you can go into next season with Smiley unless it’s for the sake of continuity which is never a good thing for a failing unit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Smiley and Washington out. Washington? He’s assistant head coach and the Bills just had one of their greatest sack years in history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, Mikie2times said: Brady will be the OC. If we bring in or promote a DC they will have very little influence. I don’t expect anybody to even have the leash Frazier did again. McD is not about best man for the job, he’s about falling in line and doing things the way he wants. I personally loved his defense, injuries hurt but they started out blazing , hit a lull with Tre,DQ and Milano but got back with Dodson and Douglas stepping up. They played fast, aggressive, intense, always looking for turnovers. Ya i liked the D majority of the year, Bernard being out killed us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Both units got worse after the moves were made so I'd say yeah they were the wrong ones And there was that pesky 7-game winning streak and rising from the dead to take the division. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Realistically, I expect McD to move back to HC, promote Washington or Babich to DC, and probably hire Brady as OC. And Smiley stays on ST and gets a chance with a HC helping out. That is, imo, minimal changes on a staff that needs change but wont change much. I think Babich on D is probably the best move but lets be honest, McDerm did a fine job with this defense considering so many top players dropped. ST is something we definitely to look at. The unit regressed this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) You’ve got units where players clearly improved and developed and became better versions of themselves: linebackers on defense, running backs and tight ends and maybe the o-line on offense. Then you’ve got units where players obviously stagnated or got worse: d-line (except Oliver) on defense, wide receivers on offense. Then there are units with mixed results - secondary (no young safeties have developed, Elam has not developed), possibly QB. Lastly you’ve got units where, across the board, nearly everything and everyone underperformed: special teams. I would move on from Smiley, Washington and Henry, but McD might want to keep them around as weight to toss overboard if things start to go south next season. Edited January 23 by Coach Tuesday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Who cares. As long as McDermott is still the HC, NOTHING changes. In other words… wash, rinse, repeat… the Bills will be bounced in the division round in the 2024 season, or worse. And they will find a new Billsy way to choke as well. We have seen this movie before. Bank on it. Edited January 23 by njbuff 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 It’s never been this easy but signing Harbaugh would net us a Championship in 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Special teams change and I could see an external defensive coordinator with McD still calling plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, njbuff said: Who cares. As long as McDermott is still the HC, NOTHING changes. In other words… wash, rinse, repeat… the Bills will be bounced in the division round in the 2024 season, or worse. And they will find a new Billsy way to choke as well. We have seen this movie before. Bank on it. Prozac works dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You’ve got units where players clearly improved and developed and became better versions of themselves: linebackers on defense, running backs and tight ends and maybe the o-line on offense. Then you’ve got units where players obviously stagnated or got worse: d-line (except Oliver) on defense, wide receivers on offense. Then there are units with mixed results - secondary (no young safeties have developed, Elam has not developed), possibly QB. Lastly you’ve got units where, across the board, nearly everything and everyone underperformed: special teams. I would move on from Smiley, Washington and Henry, but McD might want to keep them around as weight to toss overboard if things start to go south next season. I am not that keen on Washington as a coach in general... wouldn't be sad to see him go.... but overall I think there has been some development of some guys on the Dline since he has been here - Ed and AJ obviously. I put a lot of the Dline failures on Beane as much as anyone. If he brings Jordan Phillips back again I am buying one of the pitchforks on sale around here at the moment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Mike Vrabel would get this team over the top!! Overachieved with an average, at best, QB. Would look to build a team suitable for Buffalo weather. I became a fan of his when he out-Belichicked Bill Belichick and lead his team to a victory How about Belichick HC and Vrabel DC 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 They should be talking to Jim hairball. That is what I expect. If you had an average qb or any other position you would be trying to upgrade. Same goes for head coach. If some of these coaches were not on the open market then I can see sticking with who you have. But they need to find out if there is any interest with a few of these guys who are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) ST: Agree with others on this thread - it would be a suprise if Smiley is back. Defense: McDermott needs a D-coordinator to free himself up for decision-making on game day. There's a lot of hands-on coaching work involved in coordinating a full defense, and that's work that someone besides McD should be doing. This seems like an internal promotion to me - agree with others that Babich or Washington are most likely. I don't think the scheme changes, so an outside hire is unlikely. But they'll backfill the position coach that gets promoted. Offense: The big question is: Brady or outside hire? And if it's Brady, what's his vision for our offense? He did the best he could with Dorsey's offense on the fly, but it was still Dorsey's offense. Likewise, who's out there who wants the job, and what's their vision for the offense? I have to think that it's a job people would want. You get to work with Josh Allen, and there's little downside. If we suck, McDermott will get the blame. If we get over the hump, you'll get the credit and likely land a head coach job somewhere. Depending on the stature of an external hire, this could be an interim OC possibility if McDermott were to be fired at some point. Edited January 23 by Cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 LOL Rex. https://nypost.com/2024/01/22/sports/rex-ryan-would-not-be-shocked-if-bills-hire-bill-belichick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Gregg said: LOL Rex. https://nypost.com/2024/01/22/sports/rex-ryan-would-not-be-shocked-if-bills-hire-bill-belichick I would. I'd also like Harbaugh, but think he's less realistic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: I would. I'd also like Harbaugh, but think he's less realistic I would as well but I don't see Terry firing McDermott (yet). If next season is another disappointment, then I could see changes being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, chongli said: It seems like the Bills always have lots of injuries. Is that the strength and conditioning coach's fault, or just luck? Will there be changes there? Want less injuries get younger in the DBF and get bigger LBs it’s not conditioning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 At least special teams. They should at least do a full OC search. Hire a DC. They need to look long and hard. PHI is making a ton of changes and had a similar year to us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Special Teams Smiley gone Receivers coach Henry gone Babich gets promoted by title, McD stays involved on D but becomes more HC again. Interesting thought experiment. Is it more likely Pegula hires Belichick or fires McDermott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) I am curious to know whether anyone on the Bills coaching staff told Josh at the two-minute warning to focus on getting another first down BEFORE trying in the end zone. One more first down would have enabled the Bills to run down the clock (KC only had 2 timeouts left) before having to try the FG. I think Josh should have been looking FIRST at the underneath routes on that play where Diggs was open rather than the end zone. I'm always amazed at how often coaching staffs seem oblivious to clock management. Edited January 23 by Murdox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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