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Bills-Dolphins Week 18 for the Division! SUNDAY NIGHT GAME


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8 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Lines have Bills -3, Steelers -  3.5 and Jaguars - 3.5

 

Assumption that Ravens will sit starters?

 

I think the Ravens backups are probably good enough to beat the Steelers.

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I don't want to be a whiner because the world has enough of those but this kind of thing bugs me.  Josh Allen was called for taunting vs Cincy for pointing at the Player he faked out as he scored...that was a 15 yard taunting penalty.  Yesterday Jaylen Warren did the same thing and gave the peace sign to him as he ran into the endzone and no penalty.   

 

It does not matter and means nothing but this kind of thing bugs me.

 

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46 minutes ago, FLFan said:

The simple fact is that the Dolphins roll inferior teams and look bad against good teams with competent coaching.  That does not guarantee a Bills win by any means, but in my mind the Bills are the superior team overall and have superior coaching.  The late season Dolphin swoon is a real thing.  If Allen is on his game next week, Bills win.  

Agree. These are both good teams but they have their flaws. The key is Allen. He’s the better QB and as he goes , so go the Bills. If he plays like he’s shown he can in the past, the Bills will win another AFCE crown. If he looks like he has the past couple of weeks, the Bills will be watching the playoffs from their couches. 

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3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Or has checked out.  After all the offseason BS,and stupid tweets, it's entirely possible he has.

 

I don’t buy that theory.  I’ve seen too many of his press conference and in game conversations on Mic’d up, practice video, etc.  Seems like he’s dialed in and pumping up the guys. But the vet rest recently and lack of production and snaps, you gotta figure he’s hurt more than letting on.

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I have no respect for Miami whatsoever. Which is fine because I don't coach the Bills.

 

Miami are soft. They are injury plagued. They are frauds. Josh Allen owns them. ***** Miami.  

 

If Miami has something to play for, and they're playing us, the Grim Reaper may as well show up in Royal Blue carrying a folding table. 

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2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I don't want to be a whiner because the world has enough of those but this kind of thing bugs me.  Josh Allen was called for taunting vs Cincy for pointing at the Player he faked out as he scored...that was a 15 yard taunting penalty.  Yesterday Jaylen Warren did the same thing and gave the peace sign to him as he ran into the endzone and no penalty.   

 

It does not matter and means nothing but this kind of thing bugs me.

 

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Wildly inconsistent officiating is the order of the day in the NFL, it seems. 

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23 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Lines have Bills -3, Steelers -  3.5 and Jaguars - 3.5

 

Assumption that Ravens will sit starters?

 

Probably.  They have no reason to play them.  There is nothing for the Ravens to gain by winning this game.  The 1 seed is locked for them.  They may go preseason style where the starters play a few series just to keep them football acclimated but no shot they play the whole game.

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I think Fangio focused the Miami D on the threat of Jackson running the ball. Make Lamar beat us through the air. The Dolphin Dline tried to contain Lamar, giving him more time to throw the ball.

 

I think the Bills need to be willing to run Allen early if Miami if they start the game coming after Josh.

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Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

Probably.  They have no reason to play them.  There is nothing for the Ravens to gain by winning this game.  The 1 seed is locked for them.  They may go preseason style where the starters play a few series just to keep them football acclimated but no shot they play the whole game.

They Can eliminate their arch rival in a critical game pittsburgh needs to win.

 

Pittsburgh has already beat them once this year and they had no answer in trying to cover George Pickens.  I imagine they would like to knock Pittsburgh out while they can.  I also think some of their players that are banged up will sit for sure but I do not believe Baltimore is going to punt on this game.

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18 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I don't want to be a whiner because the world has enough of those but this kind of thing bugs me.  Josh Allen was called for taunting vs Cincy for pointing at the Player he faked out as he scored...that was a 15 yard taunting penalty.  Yesterday Jaylen Warren did the same thing and gave the peace sign to him as he ran into the endzone and no penalty.   

 

It does not matter and means nothing but this kind of thing bugs me.

 

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It bugs me even more that it was the same ref crew.  At least I think it was.  No damn consistency even with the same damn crew.

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I hate this game for many reasons - 

I'm so tired of the constant pissing contest between bills and dolphins fans on Twitter 

 

I hate that our fate rests on beating the Dolphins (I don't care how many times we've beat them recently) 

 

I hate that our offense all of a sudden looks like they re hired Dorsey 

 

If we lose, it'll be very fitting for how this season has gone. 

 

We don't deserve to be in the playoffs if we can't beat the Dolphins 

 

Even if we do beat the Dolphins, my confidence in this offense lately is low. They've looked awful and don't know how far they'll get in the playoffs 

 

Sunday is my birthday and the bills could potentially ruin it 

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Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

It bugs me even more that it was the same ref crew.  At least I think it was.  No damn consistency even with the same damn crew.

different crew.  Shawn Hochuli called the steelers seahawks game yesterday

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Just now, MikePJ76 said:

They Can eliminate their arch rival in a critical game pittsburgh needs to win.

 

Pittsburgh has already beat them once this year and they had no answer in trying to cover George Pickens.  I imagine they would like to knock Pittsburgh out while they can.  I also think some of their players that are banged up will sit for sure but I do not believe Baltimore is going to punt on this game.

 

You have to weigh that vs injury risk.  Lamar gets hurt like every year.  Their RBs and defense also get hurt like every year. It aint worth it.

Just now, MikePJ76 said:

different crew.  Shawn Hochuli called the steelers seahawks game yesterday

 

Thanks, I read it was the same crew from someone else.  I didn't actually look.

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I had suspected that Diggs has been playing through an injury, for me this confirms it.

 

The week before he showed up on the injury report with a back injury he played 98% of the snaps and the week of the injury he played below 50% of the snaps.

 

He has progressively increased his snap count and I know this is an unpopular take, I thought he was getting a little more separation this last game.

 

Barring no setbacks he probably will get around 75% of the snaps this coming game and if the Bills win should be back to close to normal in about 3 weeks.

 

I do think he will play his best game since the injury against the Dolphins.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

You have to weigh that vs injury risk.  Lamar gets hurt like every year.  Their RBs and defense also get hurt like every year. It aint worth it.

Injury risk is always there.  Not playing football with your most important players for two full weeks is a dicey thing.   Especially considering Jackson has been dreadful in the playoffs.

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28 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Possibly. Just looking at snap count. Shakir has more snaps than diggs. 

Possibly injured 

 

Possible.  Diggs has mostly been 80-90% all year until the KC game.  KC he was 79%.  Since then he has been 45, 60, and now 65%.  I don't think its a scheme thing. There must be something nagging him from the KC or Dallas game.

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10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Probably.  They have no reason to play them.  There is nothing for the Ravens to gain by winning this game.  The 1 seed is locked for them.  They may go preseason style where the starters play a few series just to keep them football acclimated but no shot they play the whole game.

They sat starters when they had the bye a few years ago then got smoked by the 6 seed after their starters vacation ended lol. So I’m not sure what they’re gonna do 

 

pit also plays them really tough historically so they may not want to see pit in the playoffs 

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7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Injury risk is always there.  Not playing football with your most important players for two full weeks is a dicey thing.   Especially considering Jackson has been dreadful in the playoffs.

 

Injury risk in a practically meaningless game is bad coaching.  Imagine losing Lamar in a game where you already have the 1 seed locked up. Then go into the playoffs with a backup QB.  I'd want my coach fired for that.

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1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Injury risk in a practically meaningless game is bad coaching.  Imagine losing Lamar in a game where you already have the 1 seed locked up. Then go into the playoffs with a backup QB.  I'd want my coach fired for that.

Tom Coughlin and Bill Belichick were not scared and I bet John Harbaugh will not be either

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4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Injury risk in a practically meaningless game is bad coaching.  Imagine losing Lamar in a game where you already have the 1 seed locked up. Then go into the playoffs with a backup QB.  I'd want my coach fired for that.

There’s also the risk of your guys coming out flat in the playoffs because they haven’t played in weeks..  the team they’ll go up against just pulled off a big win to advance to the next round the week prior.  It comes down to what harbaugh is more worried about 

 

if Baltimore had the 2 seed locked up with no shot at a bye they would definitely rest most starters all game but with the bye I’m not sure.  I think they’ll play a half 

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7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Injury risk in a practically meaningless game is bad coaching.  Imagine losing Lamar in a game where you already have the 1 seed locked up. Then go into the playoffs with a backup QB.  I'd want my coach fired for that.

They can play the starters for a few drives and get them out. Heck they could bench Lamar and play everyone else if they’re worried about Lamar getting hurt. 

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It looks like the Bills are favored by 3. I think that means that as badly as the Bills have looked at times, Vegas (or enough of the betting public) thinks the fins look worse. That is encouraging. I expect a Bills blowout, but I will be sick the entire game anyways. It is likely win and get the two-seed and lose and miss the playoffs entirely. Gulp.

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4 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Vegas is thinking otherwise 

Idk I think that’s a pretty safe line if the ravens starters play a half.  Vegas def doesn’t think they’re playing a full game though that I would agree with.  It’s a pretty small line movement to a pick em if they announce the ravens starters are playing a half imo 

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2 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

I get the point about Fournette>Murray, but Murray seems to necessary to the Jush push. 

I think Fournette would replace Johnson. I think Johnson has played well, but Fournette really looked sharp to me in the few carries he got a couple of weeks ago. If he’s in his old form then he needs to play. I think people are forgetting how good he was/is.

 

I think Murray plays because of his pass blocking and, to a lesser degree, the QB shove.

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1 hour ago, BananaB said:

Wow, Diggs at 65%. 😑 

They play so much 2 TE with big personnel and run the ball that he is getting phased out of the offense. Not good.

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6 minutes ago, vincec said:

I think Fournette would replace Johnson. I think Johnson has played well, but Fournette really looked sharp to me in the few carries he got a couple of weeks ago. If he’s in his old form then he needs to play. I think people are forgetting how good he was/is.

 

I think Murray plays because of his pass blocking and, to a lesser degree, the QB shove.

I’m no expert, but I think Ty Johnson has looked really solid as a 2nd string RB. He’s also faster and quicker than fournette. I’d take Ty any day of the week. 
 

small sample size, but Ty seems like a smart player based on him knowing he couldn’t run out of bounds yesterday there at the end. We need that type of mentality in tight games

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17 minutes ago, vincec said:

I think Fournette would replace Johnson. I think Johnson has played well, but Fournette really looked sharp to me in the few carries he got a couple of weeks ago. If he’s in his old form then he needs to play. I think people are forgetting how good he was/is.

 

I think Murray plays because of his pass blocking and, to a lesser degree, the QB shove.

They are not benching TJ for LF. And they like Murray in pass pro.. so don’t think they make a change. But it would be Murray if so..

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20 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

Insane that the bills will be favored on the road given all of the dolphins injuries. This game will certainly be Sunday night,  and I don't feel confident tbh. Really hoping the bills clinch a playoff spot before the game starts,  not sure my heart could handle that. 

I agree.  It will be a lot easier watching Buffalo/Miami if Buffalo already has a playoff berth locked up.

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