BuffaloBillyG Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO. 2 1 1 5 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 this is....weird timing? but okay cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO. seems like something you’d do during the bye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 It's weird timing but it feels like Brady's earned the right to bring in his own people 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO. Good, this looks like a real offense. Give him the guys he wants  Also, we did lose our QB coach basically, always a good idea to have another smart coach that knows the OC really well 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO. If this is what it takes for McDingus to get fired, I’m good with it.  Outside of Josh and Cook, the offense looked awful last night.  2 3 6 2 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO.  Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: this is....weird timing? but okay cool  I don't know about weird. Early indicators are that McDermott is going to stick around another year unless he really poops the bed. If he is staying, Brady is the logical choice to keep as OC. This seems like hiring someone to effectively delegate what Brady was doing before now that he has more on his plate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Oh wow - Mangas is known as an Offensive "Czar". This is big news. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: seems like something you’d do during the bye? He was in the box with Brady last night, so it seems they may have done just that and just held off the announcement. It's not like there were any other Buffalo Bills stories in the news last week😂 2 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) "After one season in the NFL as an offensive assistant with the Carolina Panthers in 2020, DJ Mangas returned to LSU last January as the passing game coordinator for the Tigers. Mangas first joined LSU in 2019, coming to the coaching staff as an offensive analyst after two years as the offensive coordinator at William & Mary. In his original stint with the Tigers, Mangas worked with former offensive coordinator Joe Brady as LSU put together the most prolific offense in SEC history, averaging 48.4 points and 568.4 total yards per game in 2019. That year, LSU won the national championship, scoring 50 or more points seven times and winning all but two games by double-digits." Â https://lsusports.net/sports/fb/roster/coach/dj-mangas/ Edited December 11, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 It was done after UB season. Notice connections: William & Mary who have produced good coaches in NFL. Carolina Panthers coaching assistant for a year  Hampden–Sydney (2012) - Quarterbacks coach Georgetown (2013) - Running backs coach William & Mary (2014–2016) - Running backs coach William & Mary (2017–2018) - Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach LSU (2019) - Offensive analyst Carolina Panthers (2020) - Coaching assistant LSU (2021) - Passing game coordinator UCF (2022) - Defensive analyst Buffalo (2023–present) - Offensive coordinator & tight ends coach 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: If this is what it takes for McDingus to get fired, I’m good with it.  Outside of Josh and Cook, the offense looked awful last night.  Enjoy the win. Save the complaining and ditching the coach talk for the off-season. Or at least until we're mathematically eliminated. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Brady’s done a good job but fresh eyes will help, the second half of that game had some rough stretches offensively. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: He was in the box with Brady last night, so it seems they may have done just that and just held off the announcement. It's not like there were any other Buffalo Bills stories in the news last week😂  He may also have had post-season duties to complete at UB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: If this is what it takes for McDingus to get fired, I’m good with it.  Outside of Josh and Cook, the offense looked awful last night.   The OLine had some serious issues in the 2nd half with their pass pro. Not many teams are going to look good offensively when their QB is under duress all half. They need to shore that up big time...Spencer Brown against Micah Parsons is going to be a problem if they don't get him help. Edited December 11, 2023 by Big Turk 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: It was done after UB season. Notice connections: William & Mary who have produced good coaches in NFL. Carolina Panthers coaching assistant for a year  Hampden–Sydney (2012) - Quarterbacks coach Georgetown (2013) - Running backs coach William & Mary (2014–2016) - Running backs coach William & Mary (2017–2018) - Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach LSU (2019) - Offensive analyst Carolina Panthers (2020) - Coaching assistant LSU (2021) - Passing game coordinator UCF (2022) - Defensive analyst Buffalo (2023–present) - Offensive coordinator & tight ends coach Whoa...absolutely no overlap with McDermott and Beane but some familiarity with Joe Brady. Pretty damning stuff... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 If all he does is work on the Allen / Gabe relationship it’ll be worth every penny and minute spent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: If all he does is work on the Allen / Gabe relationship it’ll be worth every penny and minute spent. Or ends it. That would be nice 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 It doesn't matter who Gabe has as his OC, he can't get open and catch footballs consistently enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Bferra13 said: Enjoy the win. Save the complaining and ditching the coach talk for the off-season. Or at least until we're mathematically eliminated. Sorry man, I just can’t get pumped for this ***** show of an offense we see week in and week out.   2:16 left season on the line: 1st - Screen to Diggs (which we had previously tried 3 times and all failed) - incomplete, 2nd -  Deep shot left - incomplete, 3rd - desperation heave after not scheming for obvious blitz - incomplete.  Total time off the clock 19 seconds, without forcing them to burn a single time out.  Not a single touch for Cook who was gashing KC all night.  Bills are a dumb football team, and they don’t learn from mistakes.  This is why they are 7-6 instead of 11-2. 10 minutes ago, Big Turk said:  Spencer Brown against Micah Parsons is going to be a problem if they don't get him help. Fact!!  Have to get the ball out quick, Dallas has a formidable defense and I bet they replicate KC’s blitz schemes 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:  The OLine had some serious issues in the 2nd half with their pass pro. Not many teams are going to look good offensively when their QB is under duress all half. They need to shore that up big time...Spencer Brown against Micah Parsons is going to be a problem if they don't get him help.  *shudder* {thinking about Spencer Brown trying to block Micah Parsons}  The other thing is that the Cowboys were absolutely vicious going after the ball and inducing fumbles last night.  Bills have got to go hard with ball security and loose ball drills this week.  That said ..... KC's defense has been very very good this year, and largely it's their pass defense that has shone. They're actually better than Dallas pass D by a number of pass defense metrics - blitz %, QBKC%, Hurry%, Pressure%, # sacks....but only slightly.  Point being, it's not like our OL pass pro looked shabby against bottom feeders and now we have to go up against the Big Dogs. We looked a little shabby against one of the top pass Ds, and now we have to go up against another top pass D.  Gilmore looked all-world last night with the Cowboys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I follow UB and DJ Mangas was the worst OC in the history of the program IMO. But that being said, the talent on O this season was depleted and the QBs were atrocious.   So hopefully being with Joe Brady and the tools on offense he can be a behind the scenes contributor with the Bills. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beck Water said:  *shudder* {thinking about Spencer Brown trying to block Micah Parsons}  The other thing is that the Cowboys were absolutely vicious going after the ball and inducing fumbles last night.  Bills have got to go hard with ball security and loose ball drills this week.  That said ..... KC's defense has been very very good this year, and largely it's their pass defense that has shone. They're actually better than Dallas pass D by a number of pass defense metrics - blitz %, QBKC%, Hurry%, Pressure%, # sacks....but only slightly.  Point being, it's not like our OL pass pro looked shabby against bottom feeders and now we have to go up against the Big Dogs. We looked a little shabby against one of the top pass Ds, and now we have to go up against another top pass D.  Gilmore looked all-world last night with the Cowboys.  But the Bills have also shown they looked very good against other tough fronts like the Eagles, so I would look at this as more of an aberration...Allen has only been sacked 18 times in 13 games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: If this is what it takes for McDingus to get fired, I’m good with it.  Outside of Josh and Cook, the offense looked awful last night.   KC does have a solid defense - and they were doing a lot with simulated pressure to throw off our timing.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Enjoy the win. Save the complaining and ditching the coach talk for the off-season. Or at least until we're mathematically eliminated. Â The offense looked good up until they went away more so from the running game & the passes to Cook even the other RB's were doing a decent job but it seems as if they just went to more empty back fields i guess due to the pressure the Chiefs were getting on Josh . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:  But the Bills have also shown they looked very good against other tough fronts like the Eagles, so I would look at this as more of an aberration...Allen has only been sacked 18 times in 13 games. Yesterday he wasn't sacked much because of... himself. He eluded so many rushers. But KC was going blitz heavy. It was not just their front four doing this. Bills can learn from this and make Dallas pay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessImproverMan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Hope he knows to give the ball to Cook and run the damn ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Interesting resume this guy put together. How do you go from NFL to two relatively big time schools in UCF and LSU to…. UB? I expected to see some local connection but it looks like he was born in Virginia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Big Turk said:  The OLine had some serious issues in the 2nd half with their pass pro. Not many teams are going to look good offensively when their QB is under duress all half. They need to shore that up big time...Spencer Brown against Micah Parsons is going to be a problem if they don't get him help. For sure. Dude dominated the leagues widely rated best RT in Lane Johnson during both outings against Philly. Problem for us indeed. Probably see Knox chipping him most plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Wasn't good at UB... This is definitely William&Mary connection and Carolina  It's a small role here but OC certainly was over his head at UB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Interesting resume this guy put together. How do you go from NFL to two relatively big time schools in UCF and LSU to…. UB? I expected to see some local connection but it looks like he was born in Virginia.  His son transferred to UB and played Tight End last season. That was the connection I believe. I believe the son's college career is now over but DJ stayed on staff for this season, and then was released a couple weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Interesting resume this guy put together. How do you go from NFL to two relatively big time schools in UCF and LSU to…. UB? I expected to see some local connection but it looks like he was born in Virginia. He was just an analyst at those spots... Or a passing game coordinator  He never was an OC at a FBS school and you gotta start somewhere  His younger brother was also on the roster Edited December 11, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Anyone who watched UB knows that o was awful. But hopefully this is just another set of eyes for Brady and maybe both have jobs under a new oc next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, zow2 said:  His son transferred to UB and played Tight End last season. That was the connection I believe. I believe the son's college career is now over but DJ stayed on staff for this season, and then was released a couple weeks ago. Robbie was his younger brother 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: If this is what it takes for McDingus to get fired, I’m good with it.  Outside of Josh and Cook, the offense looked awful last night.  We won the game despite the KC secondary holding our receivers all through the game.  Enjoy the win if you are able.  "Lighten up Francis." Edited December 12, 2023 by longtimebillsfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, ProcessImproverMan said: Hope he knows to give the ball to Cook and run the damn ball. Let Cook eat!  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Definitely should help lighten the load for Brady so he is not doing all his and Dorsey current role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO. If the decision to make him the real, full time OC has already been made, they operate more amateurishly than I thought. Â Â 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Coached with Brady at LSU and with the Panthers. Hiring people Brady is familiar with is the first real sign he'll have the interim label removed for next year IMO. This guy sounds like a rapper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: If the decision to make him the real, full time OC has already been made, they operate more amateurishly than I thought.   See, on my end I wouldn't hate Brady being the choice. He's far more qualified than Dorsey ever was. 2 out of the 3 weeks he's called the offense they have put up points and yards. Seems to have a nice handle of game flow more times than not. Involves the backs and motion. Giving him an off-season to ramp up the offense in his mold wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Could we do better? Who knows.  I'm far and I mean FAR more concerned with who is calling the defense next year than I am the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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