Bills @ Chiefs Postgame Thread

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

That was absolutely not a designed play.

 

But I will bet he does it again before the end of the year.

I don't know Toney goes out and picks Kelce and then hangs back, it kind of does seem purposeful.

[Simon]

Just now, Warcodered said:

I don't know Toney goes out and picks Kelce and then hangs back, it kind of does seem purposeful.

 

There's a  more in depth discussion of it on the previous page, if you're interested, including a postgame quote from Mahomes:

"It’s not taught. Something that only a couple people in this world would even think about doing"

 

It's something Kelce monkeys around with individually, and skill players are coached to keep themselves available, but it's not a designed play.

 

[section122]

[Warcodered]

 

[chongli]

 

[Scott7975]

The Allen we've missed

 

 

[KeLLy1278]

On 12/10/2023 at 4:45 PM, Simon said:

KC melting down like reactor core #2 at Three Mile Island

You do realize the Bills won because they had the refs on their side right?  They flagged a player for lining up Offside on the play of the game.  Players are usually given warnings but this time the Bills were the beneficiaries.  

[Simon]

13 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

You do realize the Bills won because they had the refs on their side right?  They flagged a player for lining up Offside on the play of the game.  Players are usually given warnings but this time the Bills were the beneficiaries.  

 

[nedboy7]

17 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

You do realize the Bills won because they had the refs on their side right?  They flagged a player for lining up Offside on the play of the game.  Players are usually given warnings but this time the Bills were the beneficiaries.  

 

How can I respond to this without being banned?  Any ideas folks? 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

How can I respond to this without being banned?  Any ideas folks? 

 

I actually had to delete what I had typed and then just responded with a jpg instead. 

[ColoradoBills]

10 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

He was Offside.  On to Week #15 for the Buffalo Bills.

 

Go Titans!

 

Thank you Titans.

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, KeLLy1278 said:

You do realize the Bills won because they had the refs on their side right?  They flagged a player for lining up Offside on the play of the game.  Players are usually given warnings but this time the Bills were the beneficiaries.  

Say hello to airseven and filthybeast. 

[Scott7975]

I freaking love Kincaid.  

 

 

[Beck Water]

On 12/10/2023 at 9:02 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

The bad news is he took another couple of suplexes tonight too. With no flags. I dont get why the refs just let Digs get interfered with and mugged up and down the field, and then when he does make a catch the defense can just slam him around how ever they want. It's maddening.

 

Yes, it is.  I hope sincerely this is something the Bills are trying to address with the league behind the scenes.  They have the ability to take video/photos and send a package to the league and say "this is happening to our player, please be on the watch for it".

 

10 hours ago, Simon said:

 

 

I know....what if we had a thing where selected board members were given extra powers, like a broom that could sweep out these pesky things?

 

15 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I don't know Toney goes out and picks Kelce and then hangs back, it kind of does seem purposeful.

 

Yeah, I think they designed that.  I think that was their version of a "Philly Special" that they were waiting for a key moment in a key game to unveil.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

11 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said:

You do realize the Bills won because they had the refs on their side right?  They flagged a player for lining up Offside on the play of the game.  Players are usually given warnings but this time the Bills were the beneficiaries.  

 

Paddy Mahomes?  Paddy Melt?  Is that you?  The 'Grim Weaper' himself?

Edited December 12, 2023 by Beck Water

[DrDawkinstein]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Yeah, I think they designed that.  I think that was their version of a "Philly Special" that they were waiting for a key moment in a key game to unveil.

 

It absolutey was NOT designed. As confirmed by all the players. But the entire team does practice to be ready for Kelce's laterals at all times.

 

Toney hanging back like that is because he's dumb and lazy. Not some big-brain strategy.

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It absolutey was NOT designed. As confirmed by all the players. But the entire team does practice to be ready for Kelce's laterals at all times.

 

Toney hanging back like that is because he's dumb and lazy. Not some big-brain strategy.

 

Well, I can't argue with the dumb and lazy characterization on Toney.  The Giants gave up on him and slung him out of town for a bag of used socks for a reason.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

Well, I can't argue with the dumb and lazy characterization on Toney.  The Giants gave up on him and slung him out of town for a bag of used socks for a reason.

 

My favorite quote on him was "Watching Toney beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl and then immediately turn back into the worst player in the NFL is every Giants fan's dream come true"

[KeLLy1278]

11 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I actually had to delete what I had typed and then just responded with a jpg instead. 

The refs were on the Bills’ side so let’s all have a big laugh about it.  No favoritism on this site.. none at all.  There are multiple pics of players lining up offside this past week and there was no flag.  This was a tainted win.  It’s all laughs until the Bills are on the other side of this sort of thing.  Then all the crying starts.  You guys cry and cry about rigged this, rigged that yet you’ll take every bad call and laugh about it as long as it’s in your favor.  What a shock!  Lol

[Motorin']

7 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

The refs were on the Bills’ side so let’s all have a big laugh about it.  No favoritism on this site.. none at all.  There are multiple pics of players lining up offside this past week and there was no flag.  This was a tainted win.  It’s all laughs until the Bills are on the other side of this sort of thing.  Then all the crying starts.  You guys cry and cry about rigged this, rigged that yet you’ll take every bad call and laugh about it as long as it’s in your favor.  What a shock!  Lol

 

Show us pics of all the times players on offense lined up past the ball with no call.

 

I'll hang up and listen. 

[Big Turk]

Can we talk about this play for a minute?  

 

A 6' 7" DE running stride for stride on a wheel route with a freaking RB?  Not only perfect coverage but gets his arm in to break up the pass and doesn't commit PI?  How many DE's in the NFL are making this play? Not many...extremely impressive...

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Can we talk about this play for a minute?  

 

A 6' 7" DE running stride for stride on a wheel route with a freaking RB?  Not only perfect coverage but gets his arm in to break up the pass and doesn't commit PI?  How many DE's in the NFL are making this play? Not many...extremely impressive...

 

 

 

That is awesome.  

[Royale with Cheese]

26 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

The refs were on the Bills’ side so let’s all have a big laugh about it.  No favoritism on this site.. none at all.  There are multiple pics of players lining up offside this past week and there was no flag.  This was a tainted win.  It’s all laughs until the Bills are on the other side of this sort of thing.  Then all the crying starts.  You guys cry and cry about rigged this, rigged that yet you’ll take every bad call and laugh about it as long as it’s in your favor.  What a shock!  Lol

 

I'm not sure if you know this but the defensive player isn't allowed to grab the face mask.  Did you know?

This would have given us 1st and 10, around the 10 yard line.  But since grabbing the face mask isn't a penalty, no reason for me to bring this up.

 

 

[KeLLy1278]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm not sure if you know this but the defensive player isn't allowed to grab the face mask.  Did you know?

This would have given us 1st and 10, around the 10 yard line.  But since grabbing the face mask isn't a penalty, no reason for me to bring this up.

 

 

You should learn what the word grabbing means.  That wasn’t a grab.

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

You should learn what the word grabbing means.  That wasn’t a grab.

What does it matter you're not allowed to hit him on the head at all.

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

You should learn what the word grabbing means.  That wasn’t a grab.

 

His face mask was pulled down, it is clear as day.  It should have been a face mask or illegal use of hands to the face.  Are you seriously saying that is not a penalty?

 

You cannot touch the QB's head at all.  

Edited December 12, 2023 by Royale with Cheese

[Warcodered]

 

And the madness continues.

 

[Beck Water]

 

[TFBillsfan]

I’ve watched the game a few times now and in particular the Toney offside’s penalty. One thing that jumped out at me that I’ve yet to see discussed is what in the world was Benford doing?  He was covering Kelce over the middle and then suddenly let him go for an easy uncontested catch. I don’t understand the situational awareness on that play. Of all the KC receivers, you have to stick with Kelce and make Mahomes go to someone else.  
 

Thankfully there was a penalty but man what was the secondary doing in particular Benford? 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

7 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

And the madness continues.

 

WITAF!

[Warcodered]

15 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

I’ve watched the game a few times now and in particular the Toney offside’s penalty. One thing that jumped out at me that I’ve yet to see discussed is what in the world was Benford doing?  He was covering Kelce over the middle and then suddenly let him go for an easy uncontested catch. I don’t understand the situational awareness on that play. Of all the KC receivers, you have to stick with Kelce and make Mahomes go to someone else.  
 

Thankfully there was a penalty but man what was the secondary doing in particular Benford? 

Well when a WR runs up and blocks you it's hard to stay in coverage.

[syhuang]

52 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

I’ve watched the game a few times now and in particular the Toney offside’s penalty. One thing that jumped out at me that I’ve yet to see discussed is what in the world was Benford doing?  He was covering Kelce over the middle and then suddenly let him go for an easy uncontested catch. I don’t understand the situational awareness on that play. Of all the KC receivers, you have to stick with Kelce and make Mahomes go to someone else.  
 

Thankfully there was a penalty but man what was the secondary doing in particular Benford? 

 

let him go ???

 

[Goin Breakdown]

41 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

let him go ???

 

Without actually seeing the whole thing, I wonder if he thought he would have help but yeah I hear ya. He's not the guy you want to just let go. 

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

I’ve watched the game a few times now and in particular the Toney offside’s penalty. One thing that jumped out at me that I’ve yet to see discussed is what in the world was Benford doing?  He was covering Kelce over the middle and then suddenly let him go for an easy uncontested catch. I don’t understand the situational awareness on that play. Of all the KC receivers, you have to stick with Kelce and make Mahomes go to someone else.  
 

Thankfully there was a penalty but man what was the secondary doing in particular Benford? 

yeah, that play was not our secondary’s finest hour (OPI by Toney notwithstanding).

[Tenhigh]

11 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said:

The refs were on the Bills’ side so let’s all have a big laugh about it.  No favoritism on this site.. none at all.  There are multiple pics of players lining up offside this past week and there was no flag.  This was a tainted win.  It’s all laughs until the Bills are on the other side of this sort of thing.  Then all the crying starts.  You guys cry and cry about rigged this, rigged that yet you’ll take every bad call and laugh about it as long as it’s in your favor.  What a shock!  Lol

Lighten up, Frances. 

[97bills]

2 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

I’ve watched the game a few times now and in particular the Toney offside’s penalty. One thing that jumped out at me that I’ve yet to see discussed is what in the world was Benford doing?  He was covering Kelce over the middle and then suddenly let him go for an easy uncontested catch. I don’t understand the situational awareness on that play. Of all the KC receivers, you have to stick with Kelce and make Mahomes go to someone else.  
 

Thankfully there was a penalty but man what was the secondary doing in particular Benford? 

They were running  the same defense in 13 seconds.. 

[Warcodered]

 

Winner was Levis, which I kind of liked the spirit of it like he certainly had the will if not the actual result. Probably should have been the Allen and the herd but I get it he's already got 4.

[Ralonzo]

On 12/11/2023 at 10:24 PM, KeLLy1278 said:

You do realize the Bills won because they had the refs on their side right?  They flagged a player for lining up Offside on the play of the game.  Players are usually given warnings but this time the Bills were the beneficiaries.  

[jkeerie]

13 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said:

The refs were on the Bills’ side so let’s all have a big laugh about it.  No favoritism on this site.. none at all.  There are multiple pics of players lining up offside this past week and there was no flag.  This was a tainted win.  It’s all laughs until the Bills are on the other side of this sort of thing.  Then all the crying starts.  You guys cry and cry about rigged this, rigged that yet you’ll take every bad call and laugh about it as long as it’s in your favor.  What a shock!  Lol

Too many of those posted pics posted on social media are purposely angled to make the point of disparity in the flags.  It's just wrong.  Admittedly there is plenty of disparity when it comes to judgment calls like PI and roughing the passer and late hits, but Offside and lining up in the neutral zone is pretty cut and dried and you cannot rely on viewing angles.

[MainEvent]

I know the clock stopped at 1:12 when Toney scored the fake TD, but he actually crossed the goal line at 1:13. Just sayin…