WGR Topic: McDermotts Mt Rushmore of Lossess'

[boyst]

WGR has a great discussion topic. What are the top 4 worst loses for the Bills in McDermott's tenure? The Mount Rushmore for McDermott?

 

This does not mean the loss is blamed on him - just the loss was under his term.

 

My submission:

1. 13 seconds

2. Kneel down

3. Peterman's 5 picks

4. Urban Meyers Jaguars

Edited November 28, 2023 by boyst

[CaptnCoke11]

If it goes by just losses under him and not an actual coaching decision that played a huge part in the loss… the Vikings game has to be on there along with hail Murray 

[zow2]

13 seconds for sure but “12 men” has to be in there for me., especially if they miss the playoffs by one AFC loss.

[Gregg]

1. 13 seconds. That was the year I think they would have won it all.

2. AFCCG vs Chiefs. They got blown out, but it was the AFCCG. So close to a Super Bowl.

3. The Bengals playoff game. Got blown out at home. It was depressing.

4. The playoff loss at Houston. Blowing a huge lead and losing in OT.

 

I stuck with playoff games instead of regular season losses.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Every OT game. 

[BarleyNY]

Lots of quality answers here already, but I have to add something more broad. Everyone talks about how the Bills could not overcome adversity last season and just ran out of gas. I've thought that was a cop out since I started hearing it. It's a nice, face saving narrative that protects McDermott by blaming circumstances. But there have been many teams that have had severe adversity. Some of those teams have folded, while others have circled the wagons and come together as a team to overcome their situations. A select few of those have won it all. We simply didn't have the leadership to do so. I don't think that this team truly believes that McDermott can get them to a championship and it shows, especially in the post season when we play true SB worthy teams.  Under McDermott we have yet to beat a single team in the playoffs that is capable of winning it all. The players have known that for a long time even if Diggs is the only one that has  publicly spoken up at all. Here's hoping the Pegulas get it right this offseason. 

Edited November 28, 2023 by BarleyNY

[May Day 10]

13 Seconds

Minnesota game

Houston playoff

The Rodgers game

[Matt_In_NH]

Once again the morning clown show talking about how the Bills only need to pass the ball.  

[McBean]

When you stop to really think about it, the fact this clown is still employed is outright unbelievable .

[BBFL]

20 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

If it goes by just losses under him and not an actual coaching decision that played a huge part in the loss… the Vikings game has to be on there along with hail Murray 

The blame on that one goes to Cam Lewis IMO. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

5 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

13 Seconds

Minnesota game

Houston playoff

The Rodgers game

 

Everyone an OT game!

[Beast]

13 seconds

Philadelphia game

2023 New England game

Hail Murray

This years Patriots game belongs in there because McDermott’s defense made Mac Jones look like Tom Brady.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Beast

[Juice_32]

25 minutes ago, boyst said:

WGR has a great discussion topic. What are the top 4 worst loses for the Bills in McDermott's tenure? The Mount Rushmore for McDermott?

 

This does not mean the loss is blamed on him - just the loss was under his term.

 

My submission:

1. 13 seconds

2. Kneel down

3. Peterman's 5 picks

4. Urban Meyers Jaguars

 

Hail Murray

12 men

The brutal Vikes loss last season

[DrDawkinstein]

17 minutes ago, BBFL said:

The blame on that one goes to Cam Lewis IMO. 

 

Way more blame could be put on Josh and Morse if you are going to single out players on that one. But it was a true team effort to ssnatch defeat from the jaws of victory. A very McDermott thing.

Edited November 28, 2023 by DrDawkinstein

[DrDawkinstein]

Was looking for a place to post this. This thread seems appropriate.

 

"The Process"

 

[zow2]

I used to think some other organization would scoop up McD if he got let go here.  When they start looking at all the close head scratching losses, I think teams would shy away.  It's disgraceful, how often the offense has pulled themselves off the mat to tie or take a lead late, only for the D to cave at the end or in OT.  The Bills championship window is maybe in the final realistic season and McD has pissed it away.  Even with D injuries they should have closed out some of these games...TWICE in Philly they blew it.

 

 

[BillsFan130]

1. 13 seconds

2. Houston playoff game

3. This loss

4. Vikings game last year 

5. Hail murray game

 

there are so many other horrible ones as well lol

Edited November 28, 2023 by BillsFan130

[BBFL]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Way more blame could be put on Josh and Morse if you are going to single out players on that one. But it was a true team effort to ***** defeat from the jaws of victory. A very McDermott thing.

Yes, that’s the case with a few losses we’ve had but if Cam doesn’t try and tackle Jefferson and instead makes a play on the ball, you’re never on the end of a loss there. 

[DeltaDigital]

the fact there's more than 3 of these is so effing billsy it makes me sick. Names and faces change, results remain the same for eternity. #cursed

[BBFL]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Was looking for a place to post this. This thread seems appropriate.

 

"The Process"

 

Rough. Bleeding rough. 

[zow2]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Was looking for a place to post this. This thread seems appropriate.

 

"The Process"

 

 

I've started to see this pop up on various social media and it's the most painful sports graphic I've ever seen.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

KC 13 seconds

Minnesota snap fumble knock it down Lewis

 

(Must be recency bias because…)

 

Denver 12 men on the field

 

Philly waste TOs to ensure OT loss

[cgg716]

17 minutes ago, BBFL said:

The blame on that one goes to Cam Lewis IMO. 

It's tough though, any game where you can blame the D, of which there are plenty, falls directly on MCD, and his outdated, soft scheme, full of undersized players 

[boyst]

15 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

It's losses... might want to fix the header and post.

fixed

[Gregg]

At least we don't have fake spike, butt fumble and hail mary pick 6. We got that going for us.

[BBFL]

2 minutes ago, cgg716 said:

It's tough though, any game where you can blame the D, of which there are plenty, falls directly on MCD, and his outdated, soft scheme, full of undersized players 

You’re right. The game shouldn’t have been in that position but we were due to other players; you and @DrDawkinstein are correct about that. 
 

if there’s blame on one guy for one singular play for us to come out with a loss, it’s that Cam Lewis play. Guy was on #18’s shoulders 😂

[Teddy KGB]

Losing to Mac Jones in 2023 seems like an impossible task Mcclappy achieved 

[Gregg]

Just now, Teddy KGB said:

Losing to Mac Jones in 2023 seems like an impossible task Mcclappy achieved 

 

Along with Zach Wilson.

[BillsSbSoon]

Vikings loss has to be on there too

[C.Biscuit97]

wide Right

tennesse forward pass

no goal 
 

Let’s be honest. Painful Buffalo losses were happening long before McClappy was a coach. Buffalo is cursed. 

Edited November 28, 2023 by C.Biscuit97

[QB Bills]

Need to change this to the 8 wonders of the world or some other earthly phenomenon with a higher multiple.

[BeastMaster]

Too many colossal failures to pick from, sadly

 

McDermott shouldn't have the privilege of coaching this team

[DrDawkinstein]

8 minutes ago, BBFL said:

You’re right. The game shouldn’t have been in that position but we were due to other players; you and @DrDawkinstein are correct about that. 
 

if there’s blame on one guy for one singular play for us to come out with a loss, it’s that Cam Lewis play. Guy was on #18’s shoulders 😂

 

The Vikings didnt even score on that drive. The Bills were up 27-23. The Defense stopped them on the goal line, and got the ball back with the lead 27-23. The Cam Lewis play should have been irrelevant as long as our Center and QB execute a simple snap. That loss was NOT on Cam Lewis.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Which is worse?

Defending with 12 or defending with 10? 🤔

https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/27086/rex-ryan-calls-bills-10-men-mistake-most-ridiculous-thing-hes-seen

You have to admit, there's no penalty attached to too few defenders.

[JaCrispy]

McD is good for at least 2-3 EPIC losses per year…He lacks the  balls and confidence to lead this team to the promised land…

 

swipe left…😉

Edited November 28, 2023 by JaCrispy

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

WGR has a great discussion topic. What are the top 4 worst loses for the Bills in McDermott's tenure? The Mount Rushmore for McDermott?

 

This does not mean the loss is blamed on him - just the loss was under his term.

 

My submission:

1. 13 seconds

2. Kneel down

3. Peterman's 5 picks

4. Urban Meyers Jaguars

I have to say it.. losing to the Mac Jones led Patriots and his defense giving up 29 points to the worst O in the NFL.  That has be one of the worst losses. 

[technobot]

DrDawkinstein's starter pack gif said it all, and that's just from 2019. 

 

I see that stats, analysis and rankings that clearly state McDermott is a sound defensive mind, and I truly believe this is the case against the bottom to mushy middle of the NFL.

 

It just seems against good - elite teams, pucker up that rectum if it's a one score game going into the two-minute warning.

 

It also seems like we have a fetish with ensuring the other team has at least a shot at the endzone for a hail mary or miracle type play if they need it.

 

Missed a glorious opportunity to add the Giants and Bucs to this list. 

[HOUSE]

I love WGR, when my break comes, I run outside... 

[stosh64]

2 minutes ago, technobot said:

 

 

I see that stats, analysis and rankings that clearly state McDermott is a sound defensive mind, and I truly believe this is the case against the bottom to mushy middle of the NFL.

 

It just seems against good - elite teams, pucker up that rectum if it's a one score game going into the two-minute warning.

 

 

Just this year, The Jests, Broncos and Pats**  Hardly 'elite' teams.  He is now known for playing down to opponents. 

 

I am a die hard McDermott supporter, it is time for new leadership while we still have an elite QB/ realistic shot at a championship.  

[GerstAusGosheim]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

This does not mean the loss is blamed on him - just the loss was under his term.

Jeremy quickly clarified that it should be about coaching decisions only, since he doesn't have control over fumbles, etc.

 

So worst decisions for me would be....

 

1: Trading Mahomes Pick

2: 13 seconds

3: Prioritizing Dlinemen over weapons for Josh.

4: Letting inexperienced play caller be OC in Josh's prime.

 

The Philly Kneel, Peterman start, and thinking he would do better than Leslie are really bad, but don't make the top 4 in my opinion.