Motor doing his thang!!

[bobobonators]

2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Happy for Motor. 30 touches and 150yards vs. Cincy today. Thought the Bills didn’t view him as an every down back?? Still upset the Bills shut him down towards the end of last season to play James Cook. Great job today Motor!! A Rookie QB and a ex Bills RB went into Cincy and did what the Bills couldn’t. Embarrassing

Where was this thread last week? 

[Maine-iac]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

We have one of the most uncreative run schemes in the league. Dorsey just expects everybody to line up and beat their man, no wrinkles or clever motions thrown in to create advantages. In fact there were a couple plays against the Bengals where the pre-snap design of the run play created a disadvantage. And then when those plays predictably fail we completely shut down the run game. So defenses don't respect our run game even a little bit which means our pass offense is left at a disadvantage. Everything works together to create one big failure. Uncomplementaty football as it were.

 

To be fair this isn't just a Dorsey problem. Daboll had the same problem. Which means ultimately it's a McDermott problem.

Sadly even when it doesn't fail we just stop running the football.

[Airseven]

An offensive line makes a difference? Huh.

[AlfaBill]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

He was averaging 8 carries/game and 3.4 YPC prior to today.  It will be interesting to see if they run him as much in the future as they did today.

Ya but it sounds better the way the OP said it

[Nephilim17]

Good for him, seems like a nice guy, but I'm way more happy that his team handed Cincy a loss. 

[Bad Things]

3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Cook is better than Singletary. 

(At some things)

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, Bad Things said:

(At some things)

Like playing RB.

 

Not sure who’s the better chef? 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Happy for Motor. 30 touches and 150yards vs. Cincy today. Thought the Bills didn’t view him as an every down back?? Still upset the Bills shut him down towards the end of last season to play James Cook. Great job today Motor!! A Rookie QB and a ex Bills RB went into Cincy and did what the Bills couldn’t. Embarrassing

He was a good player in Buffalo… they just wanted more speed 

[Bad Things]

3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Like playing RB.

 

Not sure who’s the better chef? 

The better chef?

 

I think it's a bit stupid to compare two different running backs that run behind two different O-Lines.

 

Cook has the speed and is FINALLY showing a bit (only a little) of power in his game.  For the first few games, he would get drop to the ground at the slightest effort from the defensing player.

 

Motor had exceptional vision (When there actually were gaps/lanes) and almost always gave the defending players a big "Pop!" at the end of each run.  For such a small guy, he packed a punch, and I loved watching him play.

[JoPoy88]

3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Happy for Motor. 30 touches and 150yards vs. Cincy today. Thought the Bills didn’t view him as an every down back?? Still upset the Bills shut him down towards the end of last season to play James Cook. Great job today Motor!! A Rookie QB and a ex Bills RB went into Cincy and did what the Bills couldn’t. Embarrassing

Absolutely happy for him as well. Way to recognize, even though I am a bigger fan of Cook’s game.

[PBF81]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Would you want to be paying Singletary $2.75m ?

 

 

Who cares.  He's not here.  

 

Either way, $3 is chump change.  RB is hardly our greatest issue.  

 

 

[Scott7975]

The running backs we had here were never the problem. All of them could do what we have needed. A mixture between o line and offensive system and predictable play calling lack of knowledge or will to use players strength and more of a dependency on making players fit the offense they want to run is the problem. 

Edited November 13, 2023 by Scott7975

[Buffalo716]

25 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

The better chef?

 

I think it's a bit stupid to compare two different running backs that run behind two different O-Lines.

 

Cook has the speed and is FINALLY showing a bit (only a little) of power in his game.  For the first few games, he would get drop to the ground at the slightest effort from the defensing player.

 

Motor had exceptional vision (When there actually were gaps/lanes) and almost always gave the defending players a big "Pop!" at the end of each run.  For such a small guy, he packed a punch, and I loved watching him play.

He's short not small

 

At five foot eight and probably 200 lb... That's a brick s*** house

[Freddie's Dead]

I miss being able to quote Sister Christian lyrics every time Motor made a big play. Also was sad to see @Motorin' change his avatar...  Good for Devin, hope he rips it up and gets that caysh. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

37 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

The better chef?

 

I think it's a bit stupid to compare two different running backs that run behind two different O-Lines.

 

Cook has the speed and is FINALLY showing a bit (only a little) of power in his game.  For the first few games, he would get drop to the ground at the slightest effort from the defensing player.

 

Motor had exceptional vision (When there actually were gaps/lanes) and almost always gave the defending players a big "Pop!" at the end of each run.  For such a small guy, he packed a punch, and I loved watching him play.

That means you think any player comparison is stupid. Almost no player has the same variables, but we watched Singletary in this offense for a while. I think Cook’s skill set translates to it better. 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

I’m still waiting on the proof…because I haven’t seen it. 

It doesn't really matter if Cook, Singletary or Moss are the RB's.  Our organization has NEVER valued an oline worthy of run blocking.  Christian McCaffrey couldn't find holes behind our line.

[Maine-iac]

20 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

That means you think any player comparison is stupid. Almost no player has the same variables, but we watched Singletary in this offense for a while. I think Cook’s skill set translates to it better. 

Theoretically I'd agree with you.  If we ran the ball more (although it's pretty even) you could argue that Cooks offers a larger home run potential, but we don't run the ball much.  If we threw to the rb's more you could argue that Cooks is better catching the ball, but we don't throw to the backs that much.  What we do all the time is throw the ball and Singletary was a much better pass blocker which is why Cooks is off the field so much when we are throwing in the fourth quarter.  Cooks will most likely get better at pass blocking but we still probably will not use our rb's as much as other teams.

[GoBills808]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

We have one of the most uncreative run schemes in the league. Dorsey just expects everybody to line up and beat their man, no wrinkles or clever motions thrown in to create advantages. In fact there were a couple plays against the Bengals where the pre-snap design of the run play created a disadvantage. And then when those plays predictably fail we completely shut down the run game. So defenses don't respect our run game even a little bit which means our pass offense is left at a disadvantage. Everything works together to create one big failure. Uncomplementaty football as it were.

 

To be fair this isn't just a Dorsey problem. Daboll had the same problem. Which means ultimately it's a McDermott problem.

Not enough oline investment

 

We prioritize the other line and the run game unsurprisingly suffers for it

[Sherlock Holmes]

15 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It doesn't really matter if Cook, Singletary or Moss are the RB's.  Our organization has NEVER valued an oline worthy of run blocking.  Christian McCaffrey couldn't find holes behind our line.

False

[Motorin']

50 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

I miss being able to quote Sister Christian lyrics every time Motor made a big play. Also was sad to see @Motorin' change his avatar...  Good for Devin, hope he rips it up and gets that caysh. 

 

I enjoyed watching him play a key role in beating the Bengals today!

[Maine-iac]

6 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

False

He'd average 5 ypc but he'd only get 10 carries a game and average 900 yards per season.

[Solomon Grundy]

Can I say "he's rebuilt" 😎

[dma0034]

Honestly Moss and Singletary have been decent. Tells you the Bills need to work on the O-Line

[Einstein's Dog]

3 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

Singletary (or Cooks for that matter) could probably do anything Ekeler does out in LA and I feel like he's a decent back.  I can't remember the last time we came out and just ran the ball at teams.  Maybe Chicago last year or the Raiders this year, either way we just don't do it.  I don't believe it's that we can't.  I just think we don't and I feel like it would make life much easier for every part of our passing game.

Why the Ekeler diss?  LA has been much better with Ekeler back in the lineup.  Ekeler is more than a decent back, he is legit good.

 

When Ekeler went out Johua Kelley took over and did nothing. 

 

Joshua Kelley seems the same tier as Singletary or Cook.  Kelley is in his 4th year and was a 4th round pick.  The Bills were hoping Cook would be like Ekeler.

 

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Why the Ekeler diss?  LA has been much better with Ekeler back in the lineup.  Ekeler is more than a decent back, he is legit good.

 

When Ekeler went out Johua Kelley took over and did nothing. 

 

Joshua Kelley seems the same tier as Singletary or Cook.  Kelley is in his 4th year and was a 4th round pick.  The Bills were hoping Cook would be like Ekeler.

 

Not sure what you're talking about ................ said right in the post that you quoted that I thought he's a decent back.

Edited November 13, 2023 by Maine-iac

[Gugny]

5 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Cook is better than Singletary. 

Cook is getting 12 attempts/game - similar to what Singletary got during his tenure in Buffalo. 
 

Singletary averaged 5+ YPC in his first few seasons. 
 

Cook is averaging 4.7 this season. 
 

Cook needs more carries … just like Singletary did. 
 

But that’s not likely as long as he’s in Buffalo. 

[GoBills808]

9 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Not sure what you're talking about ................ said right in the post that you quoted that I thought he's a decent back.

He's way better than that imo

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

He's way better than that imo

So he's a healthy Nick Chubb good?  He's not.  He's good at catching passes and he's in an offense that uses him almost to perfection.  He's probably not even Kamara good but he's on the right team.  Cook is probably very similar to Ekeler but we don't use him very well.  Motor is probably as good a runner as Ekeler and probably half the receiver.  Again the right back in the right system.  If Ekeler is here he would get 10 carries and average 50 yards a game and get a couple catches here and there just like everyone else.

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

So he's a healthy Nick Chubb good?  He's not.  He's good at catching passes and he's in an offense that uses him almost to perfection.  He's probably not even Kamara good but he's on the right team.  Cook is probably very similar to Ekeler but we don't use him very well.  Motor is probably as good a runner as Ekeler and probably half the receiver.  Again the right back in the right system.  If Ekeler is here he would get 10 carries and average 50 yards a game and get a couple catches here and there just like everyone else.

Ok lol I think saying Cook is as good as Ekeler is wild but that's just me

[Maine-iac]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Ok lol I think saying Cook is as good as Ekeler is wild but that's just me

Again I didn't say he's as good.  They have similar capabilities.  Cook doesn't see nearly enough touches to tell whether he could be as good as Ekeler and he's not a great blocker.  They are both good runners but neither would be confused with a healthy Chubb or Barkley and they both are theoretically good pass catchers.  Ekeler being the on who is actually good at it and Cook the one who seemingly should be good at it but again we don't throw to him so I say theoretically.  

[BobbyC81]

Tomorrow I want to see Lenny active and splitting Carrie’s with Cook.  Will I see it?  Probably not.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Funny how all these running backs look great after they leave Buffalo. It’s almost if coaching is the problem…

And the scheme

 

 

6 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

Singletary plays in a Shanahan style offense now, not saying he isn't good, but numbers can get inflated in that system.

 

I wish we ran that system, but we dont.

 

hopefully we can get that system next year, tired of the Tom Brady offense

 

 

[nedboy7]

Can't people just be happy for him without making BS claims about the Bills or Cook? 

[BobbyC81]

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

Not sure what you're talking about ................ said right in the post that you quoted that I thought he's a decent back.

Just a “decent back” doesn’t score 20 TDs.

[gobills404]

So happy for him. He had a lot of things going against him (undersized, not a a dynamic athlete, ran behind a below average OL, pass-1st offense) and yet was still a very solid RB in Buffalo. Definitely got more hate than he deserved. Hope this is a sign of more success for him.

Edited November 13, 2023 by gobills404

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, BobbyC81 said:

Just a “decent back” doesn’t score 20 TDs.

Nevermind .............. he's clearly the best back in the NFL then.  Clearly he'd have 20 rushing TD's if he was here because he is so good and our backs are not and it has nothing to do with the systems and playcallers.  I was wrong and there was no point in anything I said ........... or if there was you clearly missed it but we'll just go with he's the best back in the NFL.

[Teddy KGB]

15 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Cook is better than Singletary. 

Right.  That’s why he does nothing ever and they signed Fournette 

 

this team is 💩💩💩

[Shanahan's Horseshoe]

16 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Cook is better than Singletary. 

They do things differently but the result is the same.  Expect Cook is an abomination in pass pro. 

Neither has any business being a #1. 

[Blank Stare]

[Sherlock Holmes]

11 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

He'd average 5 ypc but he'd only get 10 carries a game and average 900 yards per season.

At least he'd have 2000 yards receiving to go with it per season