TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, GoBills! said: Anyone remember when Daboll was on the sidelines after things weren't going well in the booth? Maybe Dorsey needs to get down to the field where Josh is and speak to him man to man....Mahomes player caller is right next to him why isn't Josh's? It’s not just for Josh’s issues either, there are a LOT of mental miscues on the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Peppers said in his postgame that he immediately recognized the play the Bills were running from his film prep, and basically knew he was going to get an INT. If you watch the Kurt Warner break down of the Jets game on Youtube he breaks down an identical play. Way to be predictable Dorsey! I’m pretty sure we have like 5 plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I wasn’t on this train, until today. I am on the train. Send McDermott, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazinBill Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Dude is just not a coach that is ready and I said it after we lost last year to the Bengals in the playoffs - I love Beane but he talks out of both side of his mouth - when we sighn Vonn we are all in a Super Bowl window- Then with Dorsey- we need to give him time to develop Garbage - Dorsey is literally ruining JA- really weird how Mahomes was running today and no is saying he's reckless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Take McDermott with him. I am grateful for what he and Beane has done for this team. But it's time to end, McDermott is not the guy to get us over the hump. He got us there, but we need better now. It is what it is. The ones here that are happy must be new fans, not the ones of us that suffered through the 18 year playoff drought like you would think. We want a SB before we Die 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Did the Bills even interview anyone other than Dorsey that year? I would think that at that time it would be sought after job. He’s a good QB coach. Is not an offensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Did Dorsey throw the pick on the first player had on offense or did someone else throw that? Josh did. Horrific play. He played bad too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I expected this to be over 70 pages by now, Dorsey is one of those OC’s who wouldn’t have a job if he wasn’t with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Is there a recent example of a team like the Bills firing a coordinator mid-season? And by that I mean with a winning record and expectations of a deep playoff run? And an example where that mid-season coordinator change led to a championship? Not being sarcastic here, I'd like to know if that's happened recently and is a precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Nephilim17 said: Is there a recent example of a team like the Bills firing a coordinator mid-season? And by that I mean with a winning record and expectations of a deep playoff run? And an example where that mid-season coordinator change led to a championship? Not being sarcastic here, I'd like to know if that's happened recently and is a precedent. Most recent one I can think is when we dumped Greg Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, GoBills! said: Anyone remember when Daboll was on the sidelines after things weren't going well in the booth? Maybe Dorsey needs to get down to the field where Josh is and speak to him man to man....Mahomes player caller is right next to him why isn't Josh's? You have it backwards. Daboll started on the sidelines for Josh’s rookie year but then went to the booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said: Is there a recent example of a team like the Bills firing a coordinator mid-season? And by that I mean with a winning record and expectations of a deep playoff run? And an example where that mid-season coordinator change led to a championship? Not being sarcastic here, I'd like to know if that's happened recently and is a precedent. Sometimes chaos is better than whatever the garbage status quo is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 My biggest gripe with Dorsey today is how good Kincaid looked. Why tf did it take until week 7 to finally realize that the dude catches everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Most recent one I can think is when we dumped Greg Roman Thanks for that but that was pre-Allen and I don't think with Tyrod that anyone expected a deep playoff run in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Nephilim17 said: Thanks for that but that was pre-Allen and I don't think with Tyrod that anyone expected a deep playoff run in 2016. I think we had some expectations (delusions?) when Rex brought his creepy brother in that we would be more rounded and run his system better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: Did the Bills even interview anyone other than Dorsey that year? I would think that at that time it would be sought after job. He’s a good QB coach. Is not an offensive coordinator. Yes they did but the only name I can remember off the top of my head is Tee Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Is there a recent example of a team like the Bills firing a coordinator mid-season? And by that I mean with a winning record and expectations of a deep playoff run? And an example where that mid-season coordinator change led to a championship? Not being sarcastic here, I'd like to know if that's happened recently and is a precedent. Usually the coordinator isn't fired, but it happens all the time where the offensive minded had coach will step in mid season and take over. That's why the Bills are so screwed here having a Defensive head coach. There's no where to go. Dorsey needed replaced before the season. Now we're just screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, pigpen65 said: Usually the coordinator isn't fired, but it happens all the time where the offensive minded had coach will step in mid season and take over. That's why the Bills are so screwed here having a Defensive head coach. There's no where to go. Dorsey needed replaced before the season. Now we're just screwed Agree. But I think at this point we might as well get another mind calling the shots in Joe Brady. I think it may be a couple weeks too early at this point. But if we struggle these next two weeks in offense like we have been practically all season, you gotta make a move. Although at that point McD won’t take that risk anyway knowing his own seat would be very hot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 McD's defensive mind set has permeated the offense. They have no aggressiveness. Play close to the vest. No challenging a beaten up defense two weeks in a row. Dorsey has the HC to answer to and it seems they are risk averse. Two years ago the offense kept DC sweating. Today they played into NE hands. Brutal to lose the season to a really bad team. I doubt they will bounce back from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 No legit #2 WR on this team. Josh running around to avoid being sacked by porous O-line play. Defense gets carved up on final drive. No longer a Super Bowl contender so accept it and enjoy the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Remember when Greg Roman was OC and had a bad couple games so then came down from the booth (or went up I forget) to call plays and they started tearing it up again? Try that Dors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 The Bills are in prime time for the next several weeks. If we keep getting embarrassed on a national stage, something has to be done in the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, DapperCam said: Peppers said in his postgame that he immediately recognized the play the Bills were running from his film prep, and basically knew he was going to get an INT. If you watch the Kurt Warner break down of the Jets game on Youtube he breaks down an identical play. Way to be predictable Dorsey! I’m pretty sure we have like 5 plays. There is no creativity in Dorsey’s offense. He rarely uses misdirection. No gadget plays. The threat of Josh running is gone. They just line up and run their vanilla offense and think they are better and will win. Well, that ain’t workin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Other teams are more than prepared for Dorsey’s scripted plays. It’s very sad Instead of shotgun delayed draws to Cook, how about screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: Remember when Greg Roman was OC and had a bad couple games so then came down from the booth (or went up I forget) to call plays and they started tearing it up again? Try that Dors. I thought they fired Greg and hired Anthony Lynn and the offense got markedly better 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Other teams are more than prepared for Dorsey’s scripted plays. It’s very sad Instead of shotgun delayed draws to Cook, how about screens That shotgun draw play may be worse than mike Tolbert run up the gut. It’s close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterglass Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Now I know why there us such bitterness between coach and Dabol. My money is on that coach pushed Bills to hire Dorsey when he was brought here years ago probably over the protest by Dabol. Does anyone here realize that Dorsey was Quarterbacks Coach of Panthers in 2018 and was FIRED along with OC Shula. I bet he had a good part in destroying Cam Newton and look at what Josh Allen has become. Not only is Allen the #1 turnover machine but much of it isnt his fault. The O line has sucked for years along with the two small running backs who they finally got away from. Yesterdays pass protection? IMO Dorsey needs to be fired ASAP however coach nor Beane seem to have enough brains to hire someone who can outcoach other coaches. Dorsey is so over his head and should have never been hired as he has history in the contribution of destroying Cam Newton. Now he is destroying Allen both physically and mentally. Pegula needs to look at his financial investment being destroyed by inept coaching and that maens to me that Dorsey needs to be fired ASAP, even in mid season. It will be telling to Pegula if Bills cant hire a top Offensive Coordinator as that would mean that NO OC's in the league have any respect for coach and they dont want to work for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 10 hours ago, VaMilBill said: I thought they fired Greg and hired Anthony Lynn and the offense got markedly better That shotgun draw play may be worse than mike Tolbert run up the gut. It’s close. Yeah but there was a stint mid-season where this happened for sure. It was like magic the O took off for a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Surprised he hasn't been fired yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Negan said: Surprised he hasn't been fired yet Mike Catalana on Buffalo Plus said he doesn't think anything will happen this week but said if we come out and have the same issues offensively on Thursday night, he expects Dorsey fired soon after 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CirclnWagons Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Obviously don’t want Josh to go the Cam route and be so beaten to death in the next few years he’s no longer effective but with only one viable WR, ownership who refuse to sign a legit running back and an Oline that offers the same protection level as mall security, he has to maintain some kind of threat to take off. The defense………there’s just no hope for the defense. I’d rather go onside kick the rest of the season and take what we get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I think best case scenario might be the Bills eek out a win on Thursday night but the offense looks terrible. Similar to the Giants game. Dorsey gets canned, and Joe Brady steps in and is surprisingly competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 10:51 AM, DapperCam said: I think best case scenario might be the Bills eek out a win on Thursday night but the offense looks terrible. Similar to the Giants game. Dorsey gets canned, and Joe Brady steps in and is surprisingly competent. Dorsey screwing up this plan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Dorsey screwing up this plan It’s been a big output but many of the biggest moments are Dorsey fails at critical times, alongside Josh being Superman to carry the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Dorsey screwing up this plan Bills have left too many points on the field because of how stupid Dorsey has been with play calling at times. While he’s finally doing the obvious elsewhere, he still is blowing points with bad decisions. Edited October 27, 2023 by Alphadawg7 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 He hasn't called that bad of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Need to see Dorseys best work yet right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Dorsey screwing up this plan Yea, I really enjoyed how we scored zero points the final 25 minutes of the game and punted 4 straight drives. I also loved how we couldn’t get a first down the end the game, and imploded on 3rd and goal from the 6 inch line. Another point of interest, 2/3 TD plays were improvised by Allen, and not the called play. Edited October 27, 2023 by DapperCam 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAS Baritone Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I would have fired him right after that shotgun draw at the goal line. Just tell Allen to go no huddle the rest of the game. Throw Dorsey right out of the stadium. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, boyst said: He hasn't called that bad of a game. His personnel packages are questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim0904 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3rd and few inch to goal line. AGAIN, SHOTGUN HAND OFF, LOSE 3 YARDS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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