ngbills Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I remember people saying the same thing about the schedule last year after the losses to NYJ and Minnesota. The Bills ended up winning 13 games. Just like how the Bills suffered some big injuries to key players, it’s guaranteed to happen to other teams as well which will effect the matchups. So how “tough” the sledding actually is, is TBD. My point wasn’t about the #1 seed. Obviously, the bye week is an advantage. I comparing the difference between seed #2 through #7. Homefield is nice but it’s not essential as we learned last January. Exactly - we win one of the NYJ or MIN games and we are the 1 seed. That is why every game matters. It hurts losing this game and to Zach Wilson. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ngbills said: Exactly - we win one of the NYJ or MIN games and we are the 1 seed. That is why every game matters. It hurts losing this game and to Zach Wilson. Do you want some tissues to cry about it? Given the way the Bills played against Cincy, I’d be shocked if they didn’t get their asses kicked as the 1 seed. I don’t think the Bills will be in contention for the 1 seed. I’d rather have them healthy and on a roll going into the playoffs. Who cares what the seed will be? Edited October 9, 2023 by JohnNord 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Do you want some tissues to cry about it? No I’m good. But I can suggest someone to talk to, seems like your a bit sensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, ngbills said: We played the Stafford / Kupp Rams. They may not have been Super Bowl level but still were a good team until those guys and others got hurt. Calling them the raiders/commanders is absurd. We shall how the rest of the season goes. I am hopeful...I just wish we could still have this two losses in our pockets. Especially with these injuries piling up. The stafford/Kupp rams were 3-5 to open the season with a notable loss to the cooper rush cowboys. They were not even mediocre…losing whitworth sunk the oline, losing von sunk the pass rush. The rams team the bills saw week 1 was below average. calling them the Super Bowl winner is even more absurd than likening them to the raiders/commanders this year who will also be around that 3-5 mark Edited October 10, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 11 hours ago, ngbills said: How are we better? Feels better? Looks better? What have done that is better than last year? Pass rush seems better. Before Milano went down, the linebacker play was WAAAY better. Everything else is probably a wash to this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 This a week by week league. The next game is not a given. 8 hours ago, ngbills said: Exactly - we win one of the NYJ or MIN games and we are the 1 seed. That is why every game matters. It hurts losing this game and to Zach Wilson. This has been the point I hammer home, but without White, Jones & Milano I see good reason why a 7-6 finish is more than probable. It would be a miracle to do any better given the injuries to our 3 best on D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 10 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: At this point, I say 10-7 or 11-6 and the odds are a WC spot. If we play at home I say we win that one and get bounced in the 2nd round again. The harsh reality is this offseason there can't be any more "run it back BS" We have 2 old and slow safeties that have to go. As much as I hate to say it, we need to reach an injury settlement with Tre this offseason. ACL then a torn Achilles and with his contract and age... we have to think of the Business component. We are a ton of the cap so more cuts will be coming. I'm not saying full rebuild, but it's between a re-tool and rebuild and it just happens. We have had a nice multi-year run and it comes time to clean house and bring in new blood and it hurts for a season or 2, but we have Josh so that helps. For chrissake We just came off of a almost 50 point drubbing of the Dolphins and had won 3 straight We were never going to win every game this year and I have no problem with this team going against the top teams in the league who frankly are not looking that great themselves it’s not like the Chiefs are blowing teams out Give me a team that is going strong into the playoffs over one that gets strong early and then fizzles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 18 hours ago, Success said: We're still a better team than last year, even w/ the injuries. We have a nice stretch coming up where we can hopefully build a bit of a cushion to absorb some losses when the schedule gets tough. I think 12-5 is pretty realistic for a final record. 11-6 wouldn't shock me, and 13-4 is probably the ceiling. I think it's very possible that the last game w/ the Phins will decide the division. And that's so far away, who knows what both teams will look like at that point. But if we can stay relatively healthy from here on out (and by that, I mean just stay within the league average in terms of players missing time), I like our chances for the division. Outside chance for a 1 seed, and a good chance to be one of the top 3 seeds. Please pass the pipe 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 18 hours ago, billsfan89 said: The Bills were 7-6 at one point in 2021. They turned it on in the playoffs and the end of the regular season. I am not writing this team off as just a wildcard or not that good. Looking at the schedule I think the Bills just have to take care of business against the teams they are "supposed" to beat and then go about .500 in the rest of the games to get to 12 wins.... Like they did vs the Jets (especially after Rodgers was knocked out, it should have been easy) and vs the Jags? These are the Buffalo Bills were talking about here....😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 20 hours ago, Success said: We're better in pretty much every aspect of the game. DVOA was through the roof until yesterday. Our defense is MUCH better - the line is one of the best in the league. With McD calling plays, we've been more aggressive, and have a pass rush that is on par w/ basically any other team. We'll still be a top 5 defense for this season. We have a much better running game this year - and 3 backs who all bring something to the table. Kincaid will continue to get better. Sherfield and Harty are both better than the guys they replaced. Davis has been much improved this season. And the O-line is significantly better in both pass protection & run blocking. I think that about covers it. EDIT: and JA is healthy now, too. Can people PLEASE stop looking at DVOA and use your eyes? Yes our RBs are in theory better but Dorsey won’t stop calling shotgun draws to Cook to put us behind the chains. Sherfield and Harty aren’t going to give us anything significant. Davis can only run 1 route. And Dorsey won’t use Kincaid. Agree with you our d line looks better but now Daequan is done for the year and Bernard isn’t going to be kept clean. No white and no Milano either. Poyer looks 50 years old. Our DVOA is always going to look good because we win big against ***** teams and ***** QBs. But unless you’re going to ignore the harsh reality of our injuries, the ineptness of the coaching staff, and the history of how poorly we play against good QBs, you can’t possible have a positive outlook that we are in a good spot right now. 20 hours ago, 90sBills said: Bills have a great chance to win the next 3 games to improve to 6-2. Everyone will forget this feeling and the fact that this team struggles in tight games with tough opponents. Then the next tough opponent, Cincy, will bring all the negative feelings back. Just like clockwork. Book it. This. People will buy into this team way more than they should after they win the next few games. Cinci is going to run us off the field again in a few weeks and then people will remember that we just don’t have the talent at the other positions besides josh and Diggs to win against good teams. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 My 5 game summary. Defense has been very good, bolstered by the play of Bernard, Milano and a strong DL rotation. Injuries are a problem. Depth at CB and LB were an issue to start the season and the limited depth we had will be tested going forward. Lots of key players are now out, just like last season. The Offense is inconsistent and so far not able to score enough versus better defenses. Allen’s weapons are Diggs and a bunch of average receivers and backs. Dorsey is not able to really utilize Knox/Kincaid so far. Allen has been sometimes good, sometimes great, and sometimes unable to find receivers and make plays. As always, he is the key. A positive has been the play of the OL. Coaching - Bills were not properly prepared to play in both of their losses. The London game had a ponderously poor plan to arrive Friday morning and play Sunday, overthinking the obvious once again. Tough schedule ahead. Division title possible but lots of work to do. The team is still good enough to win it all if they can stay healthy and peak at playoff time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I have no faith in the Bills at the moment, and won’t until they beat a decent team. Josh’s performance against the Jets was an embarrassment and the offense (Josh and maybe Diggs aside) was horrible versus rage Jags. How can they be trusted to turn up when they’ve proven time and again that the don’t? Every side loses, every side puts in lesser performances, but the best get over the line when not putting in their strongest performance. The Bills rarely do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: The stafford/Kupp rams were 3-5 to open the season with a notable loss to the cooper rush cowboys. They were not even mediocre…losing whitworth sunk the oline, losing von sunk the pass rush. The rams team the bills saw week 1 was below average. calling them the Super Bowl winner is even more absurd than likening them to the raiders/commanders this year who will also be around that 3-5 mark They were also 2-1 winning two after the Bills loss. Even at the 3-5 record the losses were to Bills, 49ers X 2, Cowboys, Bucs - all playoff teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I bet the Bills would love to have the bye this week instead of December now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 You cannot, ever, compare a team to a year prior and expect to get any kind of insight for how the current team is performing and how the season will map out. There are millions of variables, these teams don’t have much in common with each other. Folks also need to finally realize their opinion doesn’t equal reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Can people PLEASE stop looking at DVOA and use your eyes? Yes our RBs are in theory better but Dorsey won’t stop calling shotgun draws to Cook to put us behind the chains. Sherfield and Harty aren’t going to give us anything significant. Davis can only run 1 route. And Dorsey won’t use Kincaid. Agree with you our d line looks better but now Daequan is done for the year and Bernard isn’t going to be kept clean. No white and no Milano either. Poyer looks 50 years old. Our DVOA is always going to look good because we win big against ***** teams and ***** QBs. But unless you’re going to ignore the harsh reality of our injuries, the ineptness of the coaching staff, and the history of how poorly we play against good QBs, you can’t possible have a positive outlook that we are in a good spot right now. On Saturday, most around the country had us as one of the top 2 teams in the country, after taking a team that was everyone's favorite over the 1st month to school. The last time we lost White, we were 13 seconds away from making a SB (and yes, we would have beaten Cincy that year). So now we've lost Milano too. That's a big loss - bigger than White, because we have better depth at CB than we do at LB. But we still have good LB's. Give Williams some time filling in, and there is a good chance he'll be very solid in that role. He won't be the playmaker that Milano is - but if he can hold it down, we have plenty of other playmakers on D. I see people saying that our D will drop out of the top 10 now. I'll take that bet. I think we'll be closer to the 5 spot than the 15 spot at the end of the season. Championship teams lose key players. There are countless examples, in every sport. I remember when the G-Men lost Shockey, everyone wrote them off (and they lost a few key guys that season). We ARE in a good spot right now - because we have one of the best QB's in the game, a top tier D-line, and a good set of WR's, TE's and RB's to make the offense hum. If fans can't appreciate the spot we're in and the opportunity we STILL have this season, I can't do much for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Success said: On Saturday, most around the country had us as one of the top 2 teams in the country, after taking a team that was everyone's favorite over the 1st month to school. The last time we lost White, we were 13 seconds away from making a SB (and yes, we would have beaten Cincy that year). So now we've lost Milano too. That's a big loss - bigger than White, because we have better depth at CB than we do at LB. But we still have good LB's. Give Williams some time filling in, and there is a good chance he'll be very solid in that role. He won't be the playmaker that Milano is - but if he can hold it down, we have plenty of other playmakers on D. I see people saying that our D will drop out of the top 10 now. I'll take that bet. I think we'll be closer to the 5 spot than the 15 spot at the end of the season. Championship teams lose key players. There are countless examples, in every sport. I remember when the G-Men lost Shockey, everyone wrote them off (and they lost a few key guys that season). We ARE in a good spot right now - because we have one of the best QB's in the game, a top tier D-line, and a good set of WR's, TE's and RB's to make the offense hum. If fans can't appreciate the spot we're in and the opportunity we STILL have this season, I can't do much for them. Josh and Diggs are good enough to get us 10 or 11 wins by themselves despite the coaching and rest of the roster. I’m done being satisfied by that. You only have a short window with elite QBs. You can’t waste josh on McDermott, Dorsey, and guys like Gabe Davis as his 2nd weapon. And while I loved whopping the dolphins, that didn’t change my thoughts on McDermott, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Anyone not see this is a repeat of 2021 again? I know only 5 games in, but eerily similar as of now. https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/buf/season/2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Thought before season started it would be close in our division. I am thinking unless Miami craps the bed or unforseen injuries hit namely at quarterback they win the division. But as they say anything can happen. I do like our defense better and credit McDermott for that. Was never high on our secondary and even less so now with injuries. Milano would be huge loss. Jets loss and Jacksonville loss certainly doesn't help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 we lost 3 total games in the regs in 2022 by a total of 8 points. in 2021 we lost to the jags when the stank and at one point were 7-6 in 2022 we went into the playoffs with no confidence and kinda stole games late vs new england and hosting miami w a guy from the stands at qb. in 2021 we were only consecutive disastrous blunders from beating kc in kc and hosting an afc chip game with insane momentum. i feel pretty bad about this season right now, but there is a whole lot of football to be played. one thing, we can block and when we do it right, we can run. that's all new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 My enthusiasm is shot for this season due to all the injuries… I now look at it as just getting the young guys some experience, and keep building for next year… After the dolphins game i saw the Bills as legit Super Bowl contenders…now, I’m afraid of them even going for fear of them getting their a$$ beat with all these injuries… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: My enthusiasm is shot for this season due to all the injuries… I now look at it as just getting the young guys some experience, and keep building for next year… After the dolphins game i saw the Bills as legit Super Bowl contenders…now, I’m afraid of them even going for fear of them getting their a$$ beat with all these injuries… The Bills still have I maintain the best offense in the NFL if the play calling is there. The defense just needs to get off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: The Bills still have I maintain the best offense in the NFL if the play calling is there. The defense just needs to get off the field. 3rd best. Niners and Dolphins have more firepower and better offensive minds running the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 3rd best. Niners and Dolphins have more firepower and better offensive minds running the show What about the Chiefs? Fourth best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 3rd best. Niners and Dolphins have more firepower and better offensive minds running the show If they can stay healthy then I don't see anyone beating SF. They are definitely the favorites to win the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 3rd best. Niners and Dolphins have more firepower and better offensive minds running the show There's the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 The team was humming until halftime of the Packers game last season. If they can navigate these injuries on defense, and can avoid other major personnel losses, this team will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Sometimes our offense guys appear to play lazy, so to speak, they didn’t play with intensity in London, it’s was the defense that kept the game in check, imo, it is either player execution, play calling, or not using available personnel to the best advantage or a combination of the three. Anyway, there’s a long way to go yet, and there is everything to play for. GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: My enthusiasm is shot for this season due to all the injuries… I now look at it as just getting the young guys some experience, and keep building for next year… After the dolphins game i saw the Bills as legit Super Bowl contenders…now, I’m afraid of them even going for fear of them getting their a$$ beat with all these injuries… Keep in mind the NFL is not a static system: * some of those filling in for injured Bills may turn out to be studs * there are a lot more injuries in this seasons future. Who knows who might go down changing the landscape dramatically for the Bills chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Keep in mind the NFL is not a static system: * some of those filling in for injured Bills may turn out to be studs * there are a lot more injuries in this seasons future. Who knows who might go down changing the landscape dramatically for the Bills chances. This right here ^^^ GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Seems like every time the Bills have a good game, we get super cocky and talk about the SB. Then we always get a reality check. have fans always been this bipolar though? One week, we suck dynasty over. Next week, we are the SB champs. Following week, we are a soft team that can’t stay healthy. Wild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 time for Allen to throw for 300 and 4TD's in the 1st half against NYG please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 1:06 PM, MPL said: I'd say this team is exactly who we thought they were: the most confounding, impossible-to-judge, best-dvoa-ever-yet-somehow-simultaneously-disappointing collection of lovable rag-tag idiots the NFL has ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 48 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: On 10/9/2023 at 12:06 PM, MPL said: I'd say this team is exactly who we thought they were: the most confounding, impossible-to-judge, best-dvoa-ever-yet-somehow-simultaneously-disappointing collection of lovable rag-tag idiots the NFL has ever seen. Wasn't my intention, but I suppose that was a very Chevy Chase-esque sentence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 1:25 PM, Big Blitz said: I think 11-6 barring any more catastrophic injuries. I think we’ll get to 6-2. Finish 5-4. Losses: Bengals Chiefs Chargers Eagles If we pull off a win in one of these I’d be good. We’re going to beat Dallas at home. Miami might not need to win week 18. So I’m currently leaving that TBD. 10-7 with what could be 6 conference losses might not even make playoffs. Just get in. Hope for the best. Just like I felt after Thanksgiving in 2021. And Thanksgiving in 2022. This team has no business in the playoffs if they lose to the chargers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 9 hours ago, JaCrispy said: My enthusiasm is shot for this season due to all the injuries… I now look at it as just getting the young guys some experience, and keep building for next year… After the dolphins game i saw the Bills as legit Super Bowl contenders…now, I’m afraid of them even going for fear of them getting their a$$ beat with all these injuries… That changed in a day - because we lost 2 guys, who might even make it back this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Bob Jones said: What about the Chiefs? Fourth best. Chiefs offense may find themselves (probably will) at some point but through 5 games they are a little off the Bills pace imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 Question A - Will the Bills be able to beat out the Dolphins to win the division? Answer - Of course. The Dolphins D sucks and they have Tua. They will never win more than 9 games with him. This is an absurd question. Question B - Are the Bills super bowl contenders? Answer - Of course. They just beat the Dolphins, possibly one of the best teams in the league. If they beat them they can beat anyone. Hahhahahahahhaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Chiefs offense may find themselves (probably will) at some point but through 5 games they are a little off the Bills pace imo Chiefs have to hope that Kelce isn't dealing with a nagging ding all season, and that Pacheco stays healthy. Though I saw Mahomes get dinged up in his last game. Their O-line is not playing as well as they have in the past. Their other wide-outs don't make me lose sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Success said: That changed in a day - because we lost 2 guys, who might even make it back this season? Tre White injury as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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