Just Jack Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Comes in late in the game and manages to hold onto the lead to keep the Raiders from coming back to beat the Bills? Surely he should be considered for Player Of The Game. 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I was hoping they'd let him chuck a couple 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 He had as many rushing yards as Jacobs. 1 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Simon said: I was hoping they'd let him chuck a couple Same. I mean why not at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) Josh gets the win, Kyle (the closer) gets the save. Edited September 18, 2023 by WhoTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I was more confused as to why Cook was in for our last drive. Isn’t this why we have Murray and Harris for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Wiz said: He had as many rushing yards as Jacobs. Bro 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, DJB said: I was more confused as to why Cook was in for our last drive. Isn’t this why we have Murray and Harris for? I'm guessing they just continued with their RB rotation. Or maybe limiting wear and tear on the older more physical runners that they'll need down the road? Or maybe rewarding Cook for responding to good coaching this week (Hey James, quit dicking around and get N/S)? Whatever the case, it might provide some insight to how they view any pecking order (i.e. there is none) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, DJB said: I was more confused as to why Cook was in for our last drive. Isn’t this why we have Murray and Harris for? I'm guessing they were giving him a chance to bank his first Benjamin. He did and now he's the no. 1 rusher in the AFC. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, DJB said: I was more confused as to why Cook was in for our last drive. Isn’t this why we have Murray and Harris for? Once the weather turns cold/bad, you'll need Murray and Harris at full strength. Those two guys are quietly big parts of this offense come November - when the weather gets messy and winds pick up and you need a hard nosed run game. They will win a football game for the Bills this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Josh gets the win, Kyle (the closer) gets the save. Not a save, we were leading by more than 3 touchdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Not a save, we were leading by more than 3 touchdowns. Baseball terminology. The closer (the last relief pitcher) gets the save if the team was in the lead when he took over and maintained it until the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Baseball terminology. The closer (the last relief pitcher) gets the save if the team was in the lead when he took over and maintained it until the end. For a closer, it's a save only if the lead is 3 runs or less. It's not just "if had lead until end". I know what baseball terminology is, I played baseball. Technically there's also saves for entering the game with the tying run at the plate or on-deck or pitching the last 3+ innings, but either way it's not just simply the last guy to pitch. Typically the most common save for a short appearance is one inning with a lead of not more than 3. Also a "closer" is not simply the last guy to pitch, it's just a term for the relief pitcher on a team most trusted to close out close games, typically in a SAVE situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Not a save, we were leading by more than 3 touchdowns. Yep. It was a low leverage situation. Kyle playing the last drive yesterday was the equivalent of giving a struggling deep relief piece a chance to work out of a slump, or, the better analogy - inserting a walk-on in the last minute of a blowout college basketball game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: For a closer, it's a save only if the lead is 3 runs or less. It's not just "if had lead until end". I know what baseball terminology is, I played baseball. Technically there's also saves for entering the game with the tying run at the plate or on-deck or pitching the last 3+ innings, but either way it's not just simply the last guy to pitch. Typically the most common save for a short appearance is one inning with a lead of not more than 3. Also a "closer" is not simply the last guy to pitch, it's just a term for the relief pitcher on a team most trusted to close out close games, typically in a SAVE situation. Thanks for the clarification. I lost interest in baseball years ago, so I guess I never knew some of the nuances in terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Simon said: I was hoping they'd let him chuck a couple I wasn't. We were only up 4 scored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Simon said: I was hoping they'd let him chuck a couple I was hoping they'd let Josh shovel a 1 yard pass because I had money on him throwing for 275. Hit on Diggs 65+, Kincaid 35+, Cook 25+ receiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Simon said: I'm guessing they just continued with their RB rotation. Or maybe limiting wear and tear on the older more physical runners that they'll need down the road? Or maybe rewarding Cook for responding to good coaching this week (Hey James, quit dicking around and get N/S)? Whatever the case, it might provide some insight to how they view any pecking order (i.e. there is none) 1 hour ago, DJB said: I was more confused as to why Cook was in for our last drive. Isn’t this why we have Murray and Harris for? The snaps Cook had, the better he got. My theory is that they simply wanted to give Cook more reps. It was a break out game for Cook at what better way to appreciate him is to keep him out there... Cooking. Doing what he loves to do. 7.2 yards a Carry. Right to the end of the game on 17 Caries. I mean, how many more break out runs would the dude of had if he had 25 caries? You all know that nasty wind/rain wind/snow game will be right around the corner. Edited September 18, 2023 by PrimeTime101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 He ran the victory formation flawlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Just Jack said: Comes in late in the game and manages to hold onto the lead to keep the Raiders from coming back to beat the Bills? Surely he should be considered for Player Of The Game. In all seriousness, I would have liked to see him get into the game a little earlier. He needs to have some reps under his belt if and when he ever HAS to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: Not a save, we were leading by more than 3 touchdowns. 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: Baseball terminology. The closer (the last relief pitcher) gets the save if the team was in the lead when he took over and maintained it until the end. Stop taking this seriously. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 comeback player of the year candidate right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I think I'm getting old. I read that as Where's the love for Kyle Brandt and was just about to say "ask GunnerBill" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 His passer rating was terrible, though, not to mention his QBR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Same. I mean why not at that point? no reason to put tape out there on him.... 3d chess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Don't pile on Kyle. You're lucky he even ... Kyle's for you, ya dig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: I'm guessing they were giving him a chance to bank his first Benjamin. He did and now he's the no. 1 rusher in the AFC. Fair enough didn’t realize that he was that close to 100 before that drive but that’s cool I’m good with that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 hours ago, WhoTom said: Baseball terminology. The closer (the last relief pitcher) gets the save if the team was in the lead when he took over and maintained it until the end. Not a big deal, but Yes and no. In baseball a save has to be in a close game. Quote A relief pitcher recording a save must preserve his team's lead while doing one of the following: - Enter the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitch at least one inning. - Enter the game with the tying run in the on-deck circle, at the plate or on the bases. - Pitch at least three innings. https://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/save How about mop up duty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Not a big deal, but Yes and no. In baseball a save has to be in a close game. https://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/save How about mop up duty? 3 hours ago, Just Jack said: Stop taking this seriously. What Jack said. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, WhoTom said: What Jack said. 😉 Are you and Jack the seriousness police? We'll take it as serious as we want LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 hours ago, MJS said: His passer rating was terrible, though, not to mention his QBR. eye test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 OK, sure. He was fantastic yesterday. But can he keep it up all season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 Once again, it's up to Kyle to save the game for the Bills. I'm telling you, keep an eye out for this kid to be NFL Player Of the Year. On 9/18/2023 at 7:46 PM, Mojo44 said: OK, sure. He was fantastic yesterday. But can he keep it up all season? He's 2 for 2 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 At this rate he will be first team all pro in victory formation offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Zero Incomplete Passes and a perfect kneel down percentage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 He hands it off with a style and grace rarely seen in other backup QBs. And his kneeldowns, an art form. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 11:44 AM, Just Jack said: Comes in late in the game and manages to hold onto the lead to keep the Raiders from coming back to beat the Bills? Surely he should be considered for Player Of The Game. Send his right knee pad to canton baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 1:31 PM, Simon Says said: In all seriousness, I would have liked to see him get into the game a little earlier. He needs to have some reps under his belt if and when he ever HAS to play. Yea and let him get plays to some of thevwrs that aren't as involved when Jish is passing the ball. More game ecp for everyone on team iß not bad way to use the time when Kyle is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 He has a higher "save" rate than Mariano Rivera. If he keeps it up, Kyle Allen is definitely headed to Cooperstown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This is player over hype Reminds me of Cody Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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