Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Sounds precautionary more than anything...not too worried unless more comes out suggesting its a bigger issue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 And heeeerre we go....ugh. C'mon boys,stay healthy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Sounds precautionary more than anything...not too worried unless more comes out suggesting its a bigger issue He’s old. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Ugghhhhh who didn't see this coming? The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts. This is why I predict that Rapp will supplant Hyde or Poyer as starter sooner than later so I guess give Beane credit for that contingency plan. 3 2 2 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s old. No hes not. Does he have 5 years left at a high level...no. But doesn't mean he will for sure break down this year. I mean he could, every player is different, and some break down even younger. But this notion that because a player is 31 or 32 around here that they automatically can't stay healthy, play well, etc is so outdated. Its just not true anymore in the modern game. Lots of players are still playing at a high level at this age, its not some guaranteed automatic cliff it was 30 years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 My wife made me practice yard work with a back injury. McD is more understanding. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: No hes not. Does he have 5 years left at a high level...no. But doesn't mean he will for sure break down this year. I mean he could, every player is different, and some break down even younger. But this notion that because a player is 31 or 32 around here that they automatically can't stay healthy, play well, etc is so outdated. Its just not true anymore in the modern game. Lots of players are still playing at a high level at this age, its not some guaranteed automatic cliff it was 30 years ago. He’ll be 33 in season. Yes that’s old for a starting player. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Welp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: My wife made me practice yard work with a back injury. Are you in the starting lineup for the weekend? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Gotta agree with some here on the age thing. I understand the temptation of wanting to run it back with Hyde & Poyer this year given the Edmunds departure, and hopefully they have one more top tier year left in them, but we can't be shocked if injuries are a thing again this year when we're so dependent on defense upon aging players/players coming back off injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts. Please provide some examples of your nonsense - are you referring to Howie Roseman who has multiple 30+ year olds on his team including 35 year old Brandon Graham that just resigned? Or perhaps Brett Veach whose top offensive skill player is a 33 year old veteran that just got hurt again? Every single team has old vets. You're clearly getting cocky but I think you should employ a less is more approach. Your desire to jump into every thread is greatly watering down your trolling. 3 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Just now, Nelius said: Please provide some examples of your nonsense - are you referring to Howie Roseman who has multiple 30+ year olds on his team including 35 year old Brandon Graham that just resigned? Or perhaps Brett Veach whose top offensive skill player is a 33 year old veteran that just got hurt again? Every single team has old vets. You're clearly getting cocky but I think you should employ a less is more approach. Your desire to jump into every thread is greatly watering down your trolling. Hyde essentially missed all of last season and is on the wrong side of 30. And now alas we are hearing about a back injury (which is obviously not a minor problem for anyone that has had back issues) If it was up to me I would have moved on. Also there's a reason his running mate didn't get much interest on the FA market either. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Ugghhhhh who didn't see this coming? The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts. This is why I predict that Rapp will supplant Hyde or Poyer as starter sooner than later so I guess give Beane credit for that contingency plan. So dramatic. Hyde has been insanely durable throughout his career. Last year was literally the only instance where he’s missed time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said: Hyde essentially missed all of last season and is on the wrong side of 30. And now alas we are hearing about a back injury (which is obviously not a minor problem for anyone that has had back issues) If it was up to me I would have moved on. Also there's a reason his running mate didn't get much interest on the FA market either. This isn't an example. this is just more vomit spin. Examples of hardcore fantastic GMs consistently cutting old productive vets, please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 The Bills are better with Hyde on the field. Hope this doesn’t cause him to miss Monday’s game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 I blame the people who were celebrating the Kelce injury in the other thread! really hope it’s nothing serious but this is going to be an issue with both safeties going forward. Getting old sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: This isn't an example. this is just more vomit spin. Examples of hardcore fantastic GMs consistently cutting old productive vets, please. Belichik and the Patriots didn't it for years and is one of the major reasons why they dominated the AFCE (and entire league) the greater part of 20 years. Remember our old friend Lawyer Milloy? I like Hyde and Poyer and they've been great players for this team. This is not up for debate. But I think all the warning signs are there if you trust the local media pundits in regards to both of them looking a step slower in camp/preseason. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Just now, FilthyBeast said: Belichik and the Patriots didn't it for years and is one of the major reasons why they dominated the AFCE (and entire league) the greater part of 20 years. Remember our old friend Lawyer Milloy? I like Hyde and Poyer and they've been great players for this team. This is not up for debate. But I think all the warning signs are there if you trust the local media pundits in regards to both of them looking a step slower in camp/preseason. Your example of "all of the truly great GMs" is a singular Bill Belicheat reference from years ago? Lame even for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Process said: So Hamlin possibly starting Week 1 MNF? That would be quite a story. ESPN would love it. I would expect Taylor Rapp to be the first off the bench if Hyde or Poyer miss any time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Belichik and the Patriots didn't it for years and is one of the major reasons why they dominated the AFCE (and entire league) the greater part of 20 years. Remember our old friend Lawyer Milloy? I like Hyde and Poyer and they've been great players for this team. This is not up for debate. But I think all the warning signs are there if you trust the local media pundits in regards to both of them looking a step slower in camp/preseason. Lawyer Milloy played 8 more seasons after they moved on from him. They didn't move on because he was old and washed up. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Hamlin is a pr novelty on this team and not very good. Hyde's injury is not something we can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Coming off a neck injury and starting the season with a back injury is not a good omen. It could linger through the season. The good news is that safety is a devalued position and unlike last year we have a capable player in Rapp that can step in without much of an impact on the overall defense. It's a concern, not a death sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 This is worrisome to me because last year after the Titans game Hyde suddenly had an injury and then he was done for the year when nobody seemed to even realize he was hurt. We need Hyde for the playoff run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Ugghhhhh who didn't see this coming? The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts. This is why I predict that Rapp will supplant Hyde or Poyer as starter sooner than later so I guess give Beane credit for that contingency plan. As long as those two are healhy, they will start, especially at those salaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Good thing it's the Jets with a shi.tty qb, one decent receiver, an ancient rb, and a rb coming off an acl tear. I'll change from Bills 37-7 to Bills 37-13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Are you in the starting lineup for the weekend? not anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Process said: So Hamlin possibly starting Week 1 MNF? That would be quite a story. ESPN would love it. And he would probably get smoked. Hamlin isn’t very good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Ugghhhhh who didn't see this coming? The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts. This is why I predict that Rapp will supplant Hyde or Poyer as starter sooner than later so I guess give Beane credit for that contingency plan. Panic much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Not good. Not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: Hamlin is a pr novelty on this team and not very good. Hyde's injury is not something we can afford. Was it a novelty when he made the team as Hyde's back-up last year before he was injured? Just asking as you are clearly an NFL caliber talent evaluator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: This is worrisome to me because last year after the Titans game Hyde suddenly had an injury and then he was done for the year when nobody seemed to even realize he was hurt. We need Hyde for the playoff run. I'm not sure how "nobody seemed to even realize he was hurt" Dane Jackson was injured and taken off the field. Micah Hyde was also injured and taken off the field - he only played about 2/3 of the snaps. It was in the media after the game that Hyde had gone to the ER. McDermott said in his presser that he'd called Nate Breske, the Bills head trainer, to find out if he should go to the hospital and was told both Jackson and Hyde were being sent home. I think the severity (shut him down for the season) was a surprise, but the fact of the injury (which uncharacteristically had him out for 1/3 of the game) was not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I would expect Taylor Rapp to be the first off the bench if Hyde or Poyer miss any time. Not sure if that’s totally the case. I love the Rapp signing but his weakness is in coverage. Hyde is more of a FS and Poyer is more a SS (more involved in the run game). I think Rapp fits the Poyer role (and the big nickel) than the Hyde role. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: Hamlin is a pr novelty on this team and not very good. Hyde's injury is not something we can afford. PSA: Hamlin started 13 games for the Bills last season, during which the Bills compiled a record of 10-3. I don't think he's back to where he was quite yet, but then, he took a couple games to pick up last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Really hope this has nothing to do with his neck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Not sure if that’s totally the case. I love the Rapp signing but his weakness is in coverage. Hyde is more of a FS and Poyer is more a SS (more involved in the run game). I think Rapp fits the Poyer role (and the big nickel) than the Hyde role. I could be wrong though. Good point. But keep in mind that Poyer and Hyde can interchange roles. So you could see Poyer as FS and Rapp taking the SS role, with Hamlin subbing in situationally. Or, you could see Poyer and Hamlin as the starters with Rapp subbing in situationally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 The good news…first man in is Rapp vs last year with the combo of Hamlin & Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: And he would probably get smoked. Hamlin isn’t very good. Agreed—he was basically uncuttable for at least this go round given the PR at stake. However, Rapp should be fantastic back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 You can do it, put your back into it. Come on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Sounds precautionary more than anything...not too worried unless more comes out suggesting its a bigger issue Big picture it’s not a great sign as going into the season we all knew we were taking a big gamble with the age of our starting safeties. safeties that by the way, have been huge in the overall success of the defense since they arrived. It would be one thing if they were just average safeties. It wouldn’t be as significant of a drop should their play and availability tail off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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