major Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland 2 6 1 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Hard evidence would convince me. Do you have any of that? The NFL is an enormous operation. If anyone (refs, league officials, the Rog himself) were on the take there would be word of it by now. Until then I chalk it up to plain old incompetence. 5 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Every Patriots* "Championship" 2 2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Every Patriots* "Championship" They rigged those but let Eli Manning beat them twice? Edited August 10, 2023 by Aussie Joe 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-uKBIsXzA4 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Impossible to 100% rig a football game. A few could definitely try their best though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) Bills v. Cheats "Just give it to 'em" was rigged to the *****in' max. Bills v. Texicans was rigged (just who TF was the guy in the black jacket who came onto the field and took away our opening 2nd half TD?). Edited August 10, 2023 by Freddie's Dead 3 11 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: Hard evidence would convince me. Do you have any of that? The NFL is an enormous operation. If anyone (refs, league officials, the Rog himself) were on the take there would be word of it by now. Until then I chalk it up to plain old incompetence. I would tend to agree, no proof no credibility. But, that Steelers/Seahawks SB is pretty head scratching. If there was one that was fixed that one would be my choice. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They rigged those but let Eli Manning beat them twice? Sure. The Mannings are the First Family of the NFL. For the record, I give more credit to Tom Coughlin's coaching for winning than Eli Manning's play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland "Give it to them" game where referees were heard saying it but no replay shows iit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Tuco said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-uKBIsXzA4 I’ve never seen that levy quote. Wow! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Sure. The Mannings are the First Family of the NFL. 6 Patriots versus 4 Mannings … why not more Manning wins if they are “the first family”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: 6 Patriots versus 4 Mannings … why not more Manning wins if they are “the first family”? Didn't want to be too obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Didn't want to be too obvious. “Too obvious” - that would have been letting Archie win a championship with that terrible Saints team… Edited August 10, 2023 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: “Too obvious” - that would have been letting Archie win a championship with that terrible Saints team… Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Impossible to 100% rig a football game. A few could definitely try their best though. Nathan Peterman (Chargers Game) has entered the chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 If I had more faith in human competence then I'd consider it but refs are human beings who are flawed which is why I'm calling for robot refs in the future. Until then they need to aggressively push for more cameras and fully embrace the sky judge. Tanking is hard to pull off but not impossible. The 2014 Bucs were up 20-3 at halftime in their finale against the Saints. If they won they wouldn't get the number two pick so they put backups in in the 2nd half and ended up losing 23-20. Little good it did them though as Jameis Winston was a disappointment (arguable bust). 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: "Give it to them" game where referees were heard saying it but no replay shows iit. They weren't sure so side with the home crowd. Human nature. I'd argue if the Titans homerun throwback would've been called a forward lateral if the game was played in Buffalo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, iccrewman112 said: Nathan Peterman (Chargers Game) has entered the chat. If Kelvin Benjamin doesn't get hurt, he doesn't throw that many picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Impossible to 100% rig a football game. A few could definitely try their best though. Right. That NBA ref could only get the outcome he wanted maybe 70% of the time. NFL is a much tougher ask. It is certainly possible there is some bad egg somewhere trying but IMO it is not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I don’t think any game is rigged but Steelers’ SuperBowl win over Seahawks was one of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seen. Three penalties against Seahawks including OPI in end zone and a phantom holding call wiped our 14 points. Just awful. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: Right. That NBA ref could only get the outcome he wanted maybe 70% of the time. NFL is a much tougher ask. It is certainly possible there is some bad egg somewhere trying but IMO it is not likely. NBA would definitely be easier to fix than NFL. But if a QB or play caller wanted to they could easily fix an NFL game. A ref could attempt to with bad calls. Edited August 10, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 "Can we play football already? You conspiracy nuts and 'game fixing' types are driving me crazy." * 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland The Raiders vs TB Super Bowl was on the Raiders. From what I heard they still used the same terminology, play calls and audibles as they did when Gruden coached there the year prior. The Bucs knew what they were doing the whole game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, BarleyNY said: The Raiders vs TB Super Bowl was on the Raiders. From what I heard they still used the same terminology, play calls and audibles as they did when Gruden coached there the year prior. The Bucs knew what they were doing the whole game. True conspiracy theories versus "Boy! Is Chuckie ever dumb!" 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 That Saints playoff game where Robey-Coleman did not get called for DPI. That was crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 No, its not rigged. Human error or incompetence doesn’t not mean rigged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: True conspiracy theories versus "Boy! Is Chuckie ever dumb!" 😁 I don’t think Chuckie would be the dumb one in this scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I'm waiting for proof we really landed on the moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: I don’t think Chuckie would be the dumb one in this scenario. He's spread so much chaos, I've lost track of when he was where. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 hours ago, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland Wow, just 4 Super Bowls and 1 AFC Championship Games fixed/rigged?? Can you please take one of those examples and briefly give us your reasoning, evidence, so we can better understand your mindset? But for now we can safely assume who you are voting for in the next presidential election! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 A lot of fans get VERY upset around this topic. Better to leave it alone. Truth be damned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 hours ago, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland The playoff games are all fixed, the regular season games are all fixed, the preseason games are all fixed, even the practices are fixed. Now can someone please run to Wegmans and buy up all the tinfoil for me, as I have a lot of hats to make. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Tuco said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-uKBIsXzA4 Wow. I never saw this, that was brutal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I don't remember exactly what was said but it was something along the lines of games weren't exciting and going down to the wire. Goodell commented on it. Then it seemed every game that year had some horrible calls to keep the team that was losing in the game and have it be competitive until the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Perhaps give some rationale why you think those games were rigged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: They rigged those but let Eli Manning beat them twice? NY is a big market... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, Frostbite said: NY is a big market... Goodell: Okay Coach Coughlin. We need a big play for everyone to remember. Call a protection where Manning is going to be pressured and hurried easy. Have him run around and just throw the ball up. Then have an unknown WR jump up for it and do something incredible like pinning the ball against his helmet. You and Belicheck need to get together and practice this because we need to make it look real. Keep practicing the one handed helmet catch over and over again until it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Tuco said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-uKBIsXzA4 The link here is to the Bills vs Redskins SB, showing a bunch of obvious defensive pass interference fouls by the Skins, and none of them were called. I remember watching that game and yelling at the TV in disbelief that the refs were not calling those fouls. At halftime, running into the locker room, Marv Levy seeks out a ref and repeatedly tells him "You've been bought." I agree. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) Couple years ago, Buffalo Vs Tampa Bay. Bills are storming back for he win and the refs missed a few blatant holding calls. I remember Diggs jersey stretched almost across the field. In all seriousness though, it's not rigged BUT I do think the ref favor certain players or teams. Just ask Jerry Hughes Edited August 12, 2023 by Goin Breakdown 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The only time I've actually seriously wondered if a game or season was rigged was the season of the Saints Super Bowl win. Yup, they had an all-timer at QB. But this is a team that hadn't made a Bowl before and never made one since only making and winning it off the heels of Hurricane Katrina ripping New Orleans apart. Now I have no evidence to point to, just seems a bit too coincidental to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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