RD 2, Pick 59: G O’Cyrus Torrence, Florida

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, mead107 said:

What team will be the first to draft a female? 
 

Thought the Patriots did that in the 6th round like 25 years ago.

[MrEpsYtown]

In the second round I love it. I was thinking Sanders/Simpson/Hyatt but clearly they had their choice and they wanted Torrence, and those guys are still available. It’s a different look, but if Beane wants to make the line bigger and more nasty, this works. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Ryan Bates can play RT, just saying. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Cody Ford 2.0 🥸

 

I’m hoping he is what they wanted Ford to be…hoping this works out, yet seems like a weird scheme fit. Either way, welcome aboard o’cyrus! 
 

Go Bills!

 

Hopefully he has all the athletic talent of Ford with actual brains inside to match. 

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

He's not as strong as he appears. His bench press at the combine was very disappointing. 

[Warriorspikes51]

I don’t get this board. We get a massive nasty interior OL and people here are whining about it. Did you watch the Bengal game????

[Bangarang]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Ryan Bates can play RT, just saying. 

Can he do it well though?

[BRH]

5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

 

Is he... sitting on the can?

[Reed83HOF]

 

[Bangarang]

Just now, newcam2012 said:

He's not as strong as he appears. His bench press at the combine was very disappointing. 

Think the massively long arms is a reason for that?

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

In the second round I love it. I was thinking Sanders/Simpson/Hyatt but clearly they had their choice and they wanted Torrence, and those guys are still available. It’s a different look, but if Beane wants to make the line bigger and more nasty, this works. 

Seems a bit lumbering and heavy to be used in a gap or pin/pull scheme where they found most of their success last year. 
 

In pass pro, I have PTSD from watching Saffolds slow feet last season, and I’m hopeful he plays quicker than his size would indicate. 

[Meatloaf63]

32 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I did not like our first rounder because the TE position had massive depth in this draft and no need to give up a 4th when we have holes to fill.

 

I loved this pick and it was a massive home run ,  this guy can play and has elite size.  Has something like 1500 drop backs without giving up a sack.  

Wrong, getting lots of average guys has gotten us nowhere, Offense needed improvement, Josh needed a premium weapon. This has gone perfectly.

[Fan in Chicago]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

That's really fair. I too have some serious question marks about Torrance. 

Serious question - are you ever happy?

[CaptnCoke11]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

He's not as strong as he appears. His bench press at the combine was very disappointing. 

That’s a bunch of crap.  He throws people around with ease 

[MPT]

14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

You just run or stunt around him.

 

Well I have good news for you. If he's too slow to react to the crashing rusher, he'll be in perfect position to absorb the stunt man.

 

Seriously, though, as long as they improve communication and coordination then they don't need a nimble guard. If a guard with a seven foot wingspan had good mobility he'd be a tackle and not a guard.

Edited April 29, 2023 by MPT

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

Is he... sitting on the can?

crapping all over the AFC East😎

[Reed83HOF]

3 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Think the massively long arms is a reason for that?

His wingspan is jesus h christ on a stick

[cle23]

13 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Holy Cow 46 starts and zero sacks allowed in his college career in the Sec no less

 

He only played 1 year in the SEC. Still impressive,  but it wasn't his whole career.

[BBFL]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

He's not as strong as he appears. His bench press at the combine was very disappointing. 

Bench Press isn’t that big of a deal. Using leverage and weight to the form of “strength” is all that matters. 

[DapperCam]

Between Morse, Bates, McGovern, Boettger, and Torrence, I feel like we can actually put together a decent IOL.

 

Last year it was maybe our weakest positional group. Now I think it can be at least average and not lose us games.

[ExWNYer]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I don’t get this board. We get a massive nasty interior OL and people here are whining about it. Did you watch the Bengal game????

 

And they met with him at the combine, had a pre-draft visit with him, and had an official 30 visit with him. If he doesn't work out, so be it. It happens. But they more than did their due diligence on him and were comfortable with the fit.

[DrDawkinstein]

19 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

That's really fair. I too have some serious question marks about Torrance. 

 

Oof, alright guys, this was the slap in the face I needed to snap out of it. I'm coming around on the pick.

 

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by DrDawkinstein

[KOKBILLS]

Not saying it means anything... But the Bills have now Drafted the #10 and #30 overall players on the PFF Big Board... 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Seems a bit lumbering and heavy to be used in a gap or pin/pull scheme where they found most of their success last year. 
 

In pass pro, I have PTSD from watching Saffolds slow feet last season, and I’m hopeful he plays quicker than his size would indicate. 

Yeah he isn’t my favorite. But I get why they like him and he will push to start. In the first round I would have hated it. Here it is totally worth the risk. To me he has quiet feet, his pass pro is very patient and I think that is why he looks slow. 

[BigAl2526]

Mt guess is that Torrence and McGovern will start at guard.  Morris will remain at center.  Boettger and Edwards will compete to backup at guard while Bates backs up Morris.  The Bills will try to trade the loser of the Boettger/Edwards competition for a late round pick in 2024.  

[947]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

He's not as strong as he appears. His bench press at the combine was very disappointing. 

The 225lb bench press is really an endurance event for OL/DL who can move serious weight. I've known guys who could bench 450lbs but could only do 225 for 12-15 reps.

 

The combine bench press test for linemen should really be 315lbs for reps.

[1ManRaid]

#1 TE and top 10 overall talent in the first, #1 consensus All-American guard who doesn't give up sacks or penalties in the second...

 

...so this is what an erection feels like.

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, cle23 said:

 

He only played 1 year in the SEC. Still impressive,  but it wasn't his whole career.

Oh yes he transferred from Louisiana I was thinking lsu for a second

[newcam2012]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Serious question - are you ever happy?

I'm happy with the selection. The value was too great to pass up. 

 

Just saying let's wait and see how he plays. He dropped for a reason and he appears slower and lumbering at times. 

 

I like his size and how he can maul players at the attack point. 

 

 

[1ManRaid]

1 minute ago, BigAl2526 said:

Mt guess is that Torrence and McGovern will start at guard.  Morris will remain at center.  Boettger and Edwards will compete to backup at guard while Bates backs up Morris.  The Bills will try to trade the loser of the Boettger/Edwards competition for a late round pick in 2024.  

 

Morris?

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Oof, alright guys, this was the slap in the face I needed to snap out of it. I'm coming around on the pick.

He is one of the top rated OGs in the draft - step back and look at our IOL depth now. This is a big deal if Kromer can develop this kid

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Yeah he isn’t my favorite. But I get why they like him and he will push to start. In the first round I would have hated it. Here it is totally worth the risk. To me he has quiet feet, his pass pro is very patient and I think that is why he looks slow. 

 

Yeah, getting him at 59 definitely makes me feel better about it.

[newcam2012]

2 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Bench Press isn’t that big of a deal. Using leverage and weight to the form of “strength” is all that matters. 

It's just one metric of strength. They do the bench press at the combine for a reason. 

[mead107]

12 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

what the heck???

Maybe a kicker?

 

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, BigAl2526 said:

Mt guess is that Torrence and McGovern will start at guard.  Morris will remain at center.  Boettger and Edwards will compete to backup at guard while Bates backs up Morris.  The Bills will try to trade the loser of the Boettger/Edwards competition for a late round pick in 2024.  

The depth at IOL is the best as it has been in years. Still would like a bit more at OT though, but it is what it is

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I like it.

 

Picked a dominant Offensive Lineman from the best conference in the country. 
 

The Bills have scabbed at OG for years. 

[newcam2012]

Just now, Reed83HOF said:

He is one of the top rated OGs in the draft - step back and look at our IOL depth now. This is a big deal if Kromer can develop this kid

Still waiting for Bown to develop.

 

I think Kromer gets way too much credit with not a lot of results. His oline has been sub par for too long. 

[Bigvinny]

Bills strength and conditioning staff will do wonders for this kid. 

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Still waiting for Bown to develop.

 

I think Kromer gets way too much credit with not a lot of results. His oline has been sub par for too long. 

he has only been here for 1 year again....and Brown had back issues and missed the entire offseason - Hard to pin that on him

[BBFL]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

It's just one metric of strength. They do the bench press at the combine for a reason. 

I didn’t say it didn’t have a place for measurement of strength. It does. Just that it’s not that big of a deal… you aren’t laying on your back moving opposing defenders around the field. Leverage my friend is way more important for a 300lb+ guy than reps on a bench press.