Commanders decline option on Chase Young

[John from Riverside]

Then just goes to show you how much of a crapshoot the draft really is
 

Everybody thought the time does that guy was going to be so good

[Alphadawg7]

10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Then just goes to show you how much of a crapshoot the draft really is
 

Everybody thought the time does that guy was going to be so good

He was that good before injuries.  Draft can’t predict injuries

[davefan66]

Fast forward 10 months and this board will have a 259 page thread dedicated on how and why we need to get him.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

Trade for Young now! Still time for us to give him the 5th yr option. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

'Commanders Will Not Chase Young!'

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Film at 11.

 

[ProcessTruster]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

He was that good before injuries.  Draft can’t predict injuries

this is just a season to see if he can come back from the ACL injury.  If he comes back strong, then they sign him.   pretty standard approach. 

 

 It is amazing how folks on this board do so little research b4 they post.   OP appears to have no knowledge of the injury? 

 

I live in the DC area and Chase Young is a monster if healthy.  

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Trade for Young now! Still time for us to give him the 5th yr option. 

No way for 17 million.  Washington's only play is to hope he regains his rookie form before the injury and then sign him to a new contract if he does.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Doc Brown

[C.Biscuit97]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

He was that good before injuries.  Draft can’t predict injuries

Was he thought? I mean I’m sure people will do the Jerry Hughes thing where they make his low sack numbers more impressive than they are. But his best season was 7.5 sacks. 
 

that said if they could float a 5th or lower and his knees somewhat check out, I would be on board. I think the knock is that he doesn’t have that extra gear that elite guys have and the injuries haven’t helped. And Washington is a hellhole to play for.

[wppete]

Offer a 4th round pick for him. 

[balln]

This reeks of devasting knee injury - never going to regain form- move. 
 

if it was anything BUT the above - you would pick up his 5th yr option for a franchise / pass rusher 

[BarleyNY]

This is to hedge against his injuries. They can still tag him and/or sign him to a long term deal if he regains his form. They did that with Payne this year. 

 

5th year option is $17M Transition is estimated at $16.7M and franchise at $20.9M in 2024. The new calculations for 5th year options are making teams think twice before picking them up.

 

Edit: Changed tag #s. Had 2023, not 2024 amounts. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by BarleyNY

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

this is just a season to see if he can come back from the ACL injury.  If he comes back strong, then they sign him.   pretty standard approach. 

 

 It is amazing how folks on this board do so little research b4 they post.   OP appears to have no knowledge of the injury? 

 

I live in the DC area and Chase Young is a monster if healthy.  

 

I'm just outside of DC.  Personally, I think he'll be fine.  

 

If Young returns to form, Washington will have the best defensive line in football.  

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Was he thought? I mean I’m sure people will do the Jerry Hughes thing where they make his low sack numbers more impressive than they are. But his best season was 7.5 sacks. 
 

that said if they could float a 5th or lower and his knees somewhat check out, I would be on board. I think the knock is that he doesn’t have that extra gear that elite guys have and the injuries haven’t helped. And Washington is a hellhole to play for.

4 forced fumbles, 4 passes defensed, AP defensive rookie of the year, a bunch of tackles for loss … come on. He was legit excellent in his rookie season, as his 14 AV attests. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounCh04.htm

[SoCal Deek]

What was his injury? Knee?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Bills should be able to get a 'knee doctor discount' if they keep acquiring suspect ACLs. 🤔

[BillsShredder83]

yikes. sad for dude he looked like a monster rookie year

[Homey D. Clown]

Considering how young he is, there really is no telling what he can do the farther removed he is from that injury.  

[Pabstblueribbon]

Obligatory "Get er done, bean" post here. 

[Never NEVER Give-up]

This just means the 2023 will be his contract year - instead of 2024.  He's great, but has just missed too much time.  His ability has NOT been availability!

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

this is just a season to see if he can come back from the ACL injury.  If he comes back strong, then they sign him.   pretty standard approach. 

 

 It is amazing how folks on this board do so little research b4 they post.   OP appears to have no knowledge of the injury? 

 

I live in the DC area and Chase Young is a monster if healthy.  

I did not dig down into his injury history I admit that
 

It doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re going to get to sign him. He comes back from the injury healthy. If he has a strong season, he might get offered elsewhere

 

They’re taking a bit of a gamble, but I can understand why

[Matt_In_NH]

Rousseau has more sacks in two years tha. Young in three. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

this is just a season to see if he can come back from the ACL injury.  If he comes back strong, then they sign him.   pretty standard approach. 

 

 It is amazing how folks on this board do so little research b4 they post.   OP appears to have no knowledge of the injury? 

 

I live in the DC area and Chase Young is a monster if healthy.  

 

I feel like he's a bit of a 1 trick pony... money better spent on sweat.  They already extended Payne and Allen who are probably the best interior tandem in the league.  

 

I'm curious to see what the commanders do at QB though, as I think their roster is honestly pretty good.  NFC and AFC east are gonna beat each other up this year.  

Just now, Matt_In_NH said:

Rousseau has more sacks in two years tha. Young in three. 

 

I just remember Buffalo having a lot of problems with Payne and Allen bleeding through the a gap, and Young flying up field creating an easy lane for Josh to just move to his right.  

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Rousseau has more sacks in two years tha. Young in three. 

 

To be fair, Rousseau didn't miss time and have to work his way back from an ACL tear.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Chicken Boo

[mannc]

9 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Then just goes to show you how much of a crapshoot the draft really is
 

Everybody thought the time does that guy was going to be so good

Also shows that a lot of NFL players —even young ones—who get ACL injuries are never the same. There seems to be a belief here that guys who tear their ACLs are automatically going to be the same player after a year on the shelf, through the miracle of modern medicine.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

4 forced fumbles, 4 passes defensed, AP defensive rookie of the year, a bunch of tackles for loss … come on. He was legit excellent in his rookie season, as his 14 AV attests. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounCh04.htm

 

 

The knock is that he has no pass rush repertoire.    Combination of opponent scouting and some diminshed skill from injury has turned him into a base end with bad habits.

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The knock is that he has no pass rush repertoire.    Combination of opponent scouting and some diminshed skill from injury has turned him into a base end with bad habits.

Watching him against the Bills he was a joke.  Same wide rush every time getting pushed completely out of the play.  All name no game.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 hours ago, wppete said:

Offer a 4th round pick for him. 

Round enough for you?

[EasternOHBillsFan]

10 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Then just goes to show you how much of a crapshoot the draft really is
 

Everybody thought the time does that guy was going to be so good

 

How you you make such a statement when you have no idea what the situation is? The Commanders are a terrible organization and they are being sold as well.

[RyanC883]

8 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Fast forward 10 months and this board will have a 259 page thread dedicated on how and why we need to get him.

 

why wait? 

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The knock is that he has no pass rush repertoire.    Combination of opponent scouting and some diminshed skill from injury has turned him into a base end with bad habits.

 

would fit in perfectly with some of our DEs 

[Rico]

1 hour ago, SWATeam said:

Watching him against the Bills he was a joke.  Same wide rush every time getting pushed completely out of the play.  All name no game.

Is he any relation to Aaron Schobel?

[Matt_In_NH]

2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

To be fair, Rousseau didn't miss time and have to work his way back from an ACL tear.

I know.  Young is way more talented than Rousseau.    Injuries suck and can be hard for players to come back from emotionally if they add up.   I get why the commanders made the chose they made.  

[Paup 1995MVP]

8 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

this is just a season to see if he can come back from the ACL injury.  If he comes back strong, then they sign him.   pretty standard approach. 

 

 It is amazing how folks on this board do so little research b4 they post.   OP appears to have no knowledge of the injury? 

 

I live in the DC area and Chase Young is a monster if healthy.  

I think you maybe using a bit of hyperbole ProcessTruster.  I don't think Chase Young was quite as good as his hype when he was healthy.  He was good but not quite a monster.  Ohio State has put out some real good DE's unfortunately.  (I am Maize and Blue all day everyday.)  But I don't put Young on the level of Nick Bosa.