MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, popcornpam said: Yup, from Canandaigua, New York Originally from Livonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 its been up and down. im not blind to the unseen effect he had on the defense, dude was a teddy washington NT for our secondary, made everyones (coverage) job easier. horrible analogy but it made me laugh and works in spirit. im a lil bummed out while understanding theres 0.00% chance we were offering 18m **********BIG QUESTION NOW: Do we see a more traditional 4-3? If so, how do we handle Taron? Asking those two makes mre think no. So who should i be keeping an eye out for draft/FA wise? @GunnerBill i honestly dunno what teams play nickel the way that we do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Goodbye Swedish Defenceman Just now, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Originally from Livonia Villanova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillsVet said: The Bears truly are a crap organization. Haha, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, DJB said: Or maybe Tremaine was mostly a cog in the wheel. We were blowing out some teams last year. Of course teams weren’t going to run on us when they are down big . Also let’s get Wagner, or L David and see how they perform in this D. My guess is that they outplay Tremaine at a fraction of the price You’re not getting those guys on the cheap. Maybe not Edmunds #,. but you think those guys could be deployed in 2LB defenses and play every down. Edmunds allowed our young secondary to play nickel all game. These guys are long in the tooth and Edmunds is 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: its been up and down. im not blind to the unseen effect he had on the defense, dude was a teddy washington NT for our secondary, made everyones (coverage) job easier. horrible analogy but it made me laugh and works in spirit. im a lil bummed out while understanding theres 0.00% chance we were offering 18m **********BIG QUESTION NOW: Do we see a more traditional 4-3? If so, how do we handle Taron? Asking those two makes mre think no. So who should i be keeping an eye out for draft/FA wise? @GunnerBill i honestly dunno what teams play nickel the way that we do? we need to stop playing nickel all the time. Teams ran on us late in the season. We need LBs 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Yeah it would suck to have Cooper Kupp, Debo Samuel, and DK Metcalf And John Skelton of course. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Good for Tremaine on that deal and who could blame him for taking it? I'm glad the Bills didn't put all of that into the LB position. It is another need now for sure but I feel this can be addressed in the draft imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, nucci said: we need to stop playing nickel all the time. Teams ran on us late in the season. We need LBs If you don’t like them running on us, you’ll really hate them passing on us 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Would have been nice to have him back but not at that price. Bears heavily front loaded his deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Too rich for our blood.. To be honest, I dont even know if you can justify paying him $15m per year.. let only $18m .... certainly not when our OL is a sieve... We await the short term replacement.. and they might need to take a another swing on the longer term guy in the draft as Bernard may already be a lost cause... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Unsavory Peterman said: Goodbye Swedish Defenceman Villanova LOL naw Livonia NY, just south of Rochester across Conesus Lake from Geneseo. His parents moved to Canandaigua for work before he entered HS and enrolled him into a private school. Great HS football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: You think he's going to be sitting there with $50,000,000 in his bank account and zero playoff games he's going to be happy with his career? When he could have had $45,000,000 and playoffs every year and possibly super bowls? You don't think a super bowl player can make up that $5 mil extra in appearances? Nobody is paying the LB from one of the worst teams for appearances when they can get the guys that were in the super bowl It’s like you didn’t read my post or it went over your head. He’s been in plenty of playoff games already. What Super Bowl player ? You’re assuming we make it to a SB. That’s not a given, the $$$$ is. 😂. You probably thought last year was our year too. You guys crack me up with this 💩. Go ask Bates why he signed last year with… da Bears. By the way, football isn’t life. Taking care of family the best you can for generations to come is. You can’t guarantee a SB, can you? 🤔 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: And John Skelton of course. Lots of other names out there that were on the BB most wanted list like Johnny Manziel, Christian Hackenberg , Tyler Bray, Tyler Wilson. Blue chip QBS all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Can't blame him at all for taking the money...72 million sets a man and his family up for life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, prissythecat said: Lots of other names out there that were on the BB most wanted list like Johnny Manziel, Christian Hackenberg , Tyler Bray, Tyler Wilson. Blue chip QBS all There was a strong contingent here that wanted us to trade down and take Mason Rudolph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills had the 4th best rushing defense in 2022. He wasn’t “a liability.” Edmunds is a very good player that will be tough to replace. I think that $18M AAV is too much for the Bills but I’m not going to pretend that this is a good development. I was an Edmunds cheerleader when he was getting trashed on this board. I'd love him back for less. I just ultimately hate his instincts , especially compared to Milano. His length and sideline to sideline speed was great but he was average at best in the run gm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: You think he's going to be sitting there with $50,000,000 in his bank account and zero playoff games he's going to be happy with his career? When he could have had $45,000,000 and playoffs every year and possibly super bowls? You don't think a super bowl player can make up that $5 mil extra in appearances? Nobody is paying the LB from one of the worst teams for appearances when they can get the guys that were in the super bowl who offered him $45M that he turned down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, DJB said: Or maybe Tremaine was mostly a cog in the wheel. We were blowing out some teams last year. Of course teams weren’t going to run on us when they are down big . Also let’s get Wagner, or L David and see how they perform in this D. My guess is that they outplay Tremaine at a fraction of the price My goodness, what a freaking all around blessing thatd be. holes from poyer and edmunds sounds huge, but when you consider we already played last year with only 1 of 2 of our safeties, its a bit easier to swallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: LOL naw Livonia NY, just south of Rochester across Conesus Lake from Geneseo. His parents moved to Canandaigua for work before he entered HS and enrolled him into a private school. Great HS football player. Livonia was a grear area compared to the dump I grew up in just south of there - hence the nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: There was a strong contingent here that wanted us to trade down and take Mason Rudolph. Man I hated Rudolph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: There was a strong contingent here that wanted us to trade down and take Mason Rudolph. haha true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I will bet anyone on their win total. They are moving in the right direction. He’s 24! Not about age, it's about where his head's at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Hahaha they traded Roquon Smith just to turn around and pay Edmunds? Just a bizarre move. It kind of is a bizarre move. While Roquan Smith's contract sounds huge (5 years, $100,000), it's $45M guaranteed at signing with very moderate cap hits the next 2 years. We'll have to wait for the details, but 4 years, $72M with $50M guaranteed - for that, you'd think they could have kept Smith who IMHO is the better player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Edmunds STRENGTH was his pass defense. If you’re always leading, as the Bills are, that’s more important. His length and athleticism won’t be easy to replace. The Bills will take a step back there. Losing Edmunds ABSOLUTELY makes the Bills worse. If the offense improves by enough, it hopefully won’t matter. In a perfect world I would have liked to keep Edmunds. His departure isn't unexpected. Agree it's a hole the Bills need to address. Hopefully, Edmunds replacement play well. There does seem to be good news with the loss of Edmunds. The Bills and Beane are focusing more on offensive needs. Something the team and Allen need despite great offensive statistics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: I was an Edmunds cheerleader when he was getting trashed on this board. I'd love him back for less. I just ultimately hate his instincts , especially compared to Milano. His length and sideline to sideline speed was great but he was average at best in the run gm I don’t completely disagree. I’d say “above-average” but not elite against the run. He was/is a very good player. Edmunds will be tough to replace. They just couldn’t justify $18M AAV. I’m surprised that he got that when guys like Pratt got $7m-$8m AAV (or whatever). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said: Thank you 49 - glad you got paid, also glad we didn’t pay what you got. Wish you the best minus across the field from us Good post, it’s a lot different not wanting to win a bidding war for him than denigrating his talent. We couldn’t retain him but in a conventional 4/3 with him outside, he thrives. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, newcam2012 said: In a perfect world I would have liked to keep Edmunds. His departure isn't unexpected. Agree it's a hole the Bills need to address. Hopefully, Edmunds replacement play well. There does seem to be good news with the loss of Edmunds. The Bills and Beane are focusing more on offensive needs. Something the team and Allen need despite great offensive statistics. I agree. I have a feeling that there is a big offensive move out there. Maybe it is Hopkins or Henry or Jeudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 That's a deal a rebuilding team can afford. Teams with legit Super Bowl aspirations cannot afford to pay a star salary to one good player. One of the drought era Bills teams would have done that deal, and we all probably would have liked it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, why? Because it took them so long to replace Mike Singletary with Brian Urlacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Eastport bills said: Good post, it’s a lot different not wanting to win a bidding war for him than denigrating his talent. We couldn’t retain him but in a conventional 4/3 with him outside, he thrives. Maybe. I don't think I ever seen him except maybe one or two times effective on a blitz where he was untouched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, nucci said: we need to stop playing nickel all the time. Teams ran on us late in the season. We need LBs i dont disagree, just sucks to have the best NCB in the game, have given him a nice contract, and now hes a very situational player? Nobody shoot me here, but if theoretically we go back to a 4-3, what would taron's trade value be? not advocating it, just thinking of questions beanes sorting through 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Good post, it’s a lot different not wanting to win a bidding war for him than denigrating his talent. We couldn’t retain him but in a conventional 4/3 with him outside, he thrives. Do you think the Bears are going to play a conventional 4/3 with Edmunds outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t completely disagree. I’d say “above-average” but not elite against the run. He was/is a very good player. Edmunds will be tough to replace. They just couldn’t justify $18M AAV. I’m surprised that he got that when guys like Pratt got $7m-$8m AAV (or whatever). That's what I'm saying, we could have very little drop off for close to the same production I'll miss him most for his length and giving QBs trouble over the middle in the pass game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: i dont disagree, just sucks to have the best NCB in the game, have given him a nice contract, and now hes a very situational player? Nobody shoot me here, but if theoretically we go back to a 4-3, what would taron's trade value be? not advocating it, just thinking of questions beanes sorting through We're not going back to a 4-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, gobills404 said: The fact that you hold a grudge for an accident on the football and still hated him during his best season actually perfectly demonstrates your weird hate fetish for him. So thanks for that. You’re very welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappysnackcakes Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, nucci said: Seriously? How much do you know about Bills history? I’ve not missed a game since 1991. Ask me some questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I wanted him back but he is getting truly elite money and he is not that good. If he had signed for around $12 million somewhere I would be disappointed but at that amount let him go, spend money on another D tackle and go more 4-3 if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Maybe. I don't think I ever seen him except maybe one or two times effective on a blitz where he was untouched. They never coached him up to be in pressure packages. He played LB with Milano in 2LB defense with the nickel. They wanted to rush 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Too rich for our blood.. To be honest, I dont even know if you can justify paying him $15m per year.. let only $18m .... certainly not when our OL is a sieve... We await the short term replacement.. and they might need to take a another swing on the longer term guy in the draft as Bernard may already be a lost cause... Just no. blows my mind that ppl are ready to give up on a player so fast. we took him knowing he needed a year to bulk up. maybe that combined with a 3 LBer scheme, could be very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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