Bears to trade #1 overall pick to Panthers

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, White Linen said:

One first 

 

 

There is always that guy who simply can't understand the basic math.   Any pick # that you didn't own before is compensation for the one or one's you traded them for.

[daz28]

If you consider the value of a good QB on a cheap cap hit for up to a decade, the price really isn't that high.  

[White Linen]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There is always that guy who simply can't understand the basic math.   Any pick # that you didn't own before is compensation for the one or one's you traded them for.

 

And there's always that guy that can't comprehend math trying to tell it to others.  2 minus 1 is 1. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by White Linen

[Utah John]

With the Panthers now a little light on draft picks, maybe they'll be interested in shopping some established player for a mid-rounder.  Do they have any O linemen worth a look?

[BillsfaninSB]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

If you consider the value of a good QB on a cheap cap hit for up to a decade, the price really isn't that high.  

Unless it is Zach Wilson 2.0. 

[daz28]

7 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Unless it is Zach Wilson 2.0. 

Obviously, nothing is guaranteed.  They do have the pick of the litter, and if they did their scouting right, that puts them in the best position to avoid that happening.  

[DCofNC]

Beane sleeping at the wheel again, could have given them Allen and 27 to go up and get a cheaper alternative at QB, never going to solve this cap situation without a reset.

[BBFL]

25 minutes ago, Utah John said:

With the Panthers now a little light on draft picks, maybe they'll be interested in shopping some established player for a mid-rounder.  Do they have any O linemen worth a look?

Not particularly. Moton & Ekwonu are the only decent O Linemen they have who are worth anything IMO. They are not going to trade either for 3-5 rounders. 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Tepper was desperate.

Carolina gave away a lot for a so so QB.

 

None of this class of QBs are likely franchise. Perhaps serviceable to good is likely their landing spot.

 

I think the Bears did well. Their fans have to be happy. 

[BADOLBILZ]

18 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

And there's always that guy that can't comprehend math trying to tell it to others.  2 minus 1 is 1. 

 

 

It's telling that you had to edit that. 😂

 

So if the Bills traded Josh Allen for Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry all they got in trade was Derrick Henry?

 

The #1 overall pick and #9 pick have very different values...........that's not an exchange of equal value, obviously.  

 

This is why there are trade value charts. 

 

 

 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

If you think a guy is your franchise QB, then you move heaven and earth to get him. Now the Panthers just has to make sure they don’t miss. 
 

But WOW - Bears made off with an absolute haul! Should be interesting to see what Fields does next year. 

[skibum]

A pretty solid deal for Carolina; the #1 overall pick is a very expensive prize, and that's about as little as you could hope to pay for it. 

[chongli]

A poster on the Carolina forum who claims to have inside knowledge of the organization said the pick is down to either Stroud or Levis.

 

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/182902-we’re-trading-for-1-pick/?do=findComment&comment=6098357

 

"MillionDollarCam

 

A friend of mine who has a source in the organization said it’s down to Stroud or Levis but a decision has not been made yet. 

 

Was also told that there isn’t a decision on how WR will be addressed yet but that the team does trust Terrace Marshall’s development. 

 

Take that for what it’s worth."

[Motor26]

Bears will find a way to mess this up...they are as poorly run of a franchise as anyone over the past 10+ years. 

[starrymessenger]

It's gotta be CJ Stroud. What nfl GM would make a move like that for a 180 lb 5'10" QB? Can't believe they would do this for Levis either.
If Richardson has the ability to process or if that ability is there to be developed he will be a lot better than all these other guys. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by starrymessenger

[wppete]

I think the Bears robbed Carolina. Carolina must really love someone. I think it’s CJ Stroud. 

[snamsnoops]

3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Isn’t it great to have a sucky team? Josh Allen!

 

[Victory Formation]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Same.  If I’m the colts, I’d take Stroud. I like young but I wouldn’t risk the franchise future on a QB his size.
 

Some of you guys would really take Richardson #1 overall?   I mean, I love the god given talent but I’d rather draft LeBron James and teach him how to play QB.  Richardson might be a slightly better runner

You don’t think Richardson has potential to be a good passer? I’m shocked! There’s only one way to handle this, I challenge you to a saxophone battle!

 

[Chicken Boo]

2 hours ago, White Linen said:

One first 

 

I count the swap.

[chongli]

 

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, White Linen said:

One first 

OH GOD, HERE WE GO LOLLLLLLLLLLLL

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Carolina gave away a lot for a so so QB.

 

None of this class of QBs are likely franchise. Perhaps serviceable to good is likely their landing spot.

 

I think the Bears did well. Their fans have to be happy. 

its a roll of the dice you want to take. most werent exactly drooling over Hurts or Herbert.... or josh lol instinct is to say i like the bears side better but teams have been wrong about this kinda thing a lot

3 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

And there's always that guy that can't comprehend math trying to tell it to others.  2 minus 1 is 1. 

2 - 1 = 1 huh?  is that pick this year or next year lol

[CapeBreton]

4 hours ago, QCity said:

Imagine being a Houston fan and watching this haul go to the Bears? Grats on that last win though.

This is a win for Texans, as long as Stroud wasn’t their guy. Seems like everyone has Texans liking Bryce Young. 

[BarleyNY]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

This is for Bryce Young?

Stroud

[newcam2012]

8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Stroud

I can't say that I'm a guru QB scout. I've watched Stroud play about 5 to 6 times. He really didn't impress me. 

 

Folks here with more knowledge could maybe give some insight on his future? 

 

Is he really top pick worthy? 

[cle23]

3 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

And there's always that guy that can't comprehend math trying to tell it to others.  2 minus 1 is 1. 

 

The total trade package for the 1st pick was 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and Moore.  It's simple.

[Sisyphean Bills]

3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It's telling that you had to edit that. 😂

 

So if the Bills traded Josh Allen for Ryan Tannehill and Derrick Henry all they got in trade was Derrick Henry?

 

The #1 overall pick and #9 pick have very different values...........that's not an exchange of equal value, obviously.  

 

This is why there are trade value charts. 

 

 

 

Most importantly the Titans don't get anything. 😆

[BarleyNY]

5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I can't say that I'm a guru QB scout. I've watched Stroud play about 5 to 6 times. He really didn't impress me. 

 

Folks here with more knowledge could maybe give some insight on his future? 

 

Is he really top pick worthy? 

I think a team making a move like that has to take a player with the potential for greatness. Stroud may hit or he may not, but you can’t do something like this for a Bryce Young. His ceiling is what? Kirk Cousins? Also I don’t think you have to move to 1 for Levi’s or Richardson. No one left for it to be but Stroud. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by BarleyNY

[cle23]

1 hour ago, Victory Formation said:

You don’t think Richardson has potential to be a good passer? I’m shocked! There’s only one way to handle this, I challenge you to a saxophone battle!

 

 

JaMarcus Russell had the potential to be a good passer too.  

 

The mere thought of Richardson going 1st is insanity.  The dude was average at best in college, and well below average when they played power 5 competition.  He has the potential, but who trades that haul for a guy who MAY be good, or equally could be the worst QB taken in the 1st round.  

 

It has to be Stroud or Young, and Stroud scares me too.  He is the best pure QB in the draft but he just doesn't seem to have any fire to him at all.

[Governor]

There’s no QBs in the NFC so do what you have to draft one and you’ll win pretty easily. I like the move. No one cares about compensation if you end up with a good one.

[chongli]

 

On the Carolina forum, in addition to going after OBJ and Hopkins, they are also talking about possibly getting Adam Thielen and Quentin Johnston with the 39th pic to give their new QB some weapons. Ok, we'll see, lol.

 

Also, made me laugh:

 

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/182902-we’re-trading-for-1-pick/?do=findComment&comment=6098539

 

 

This is why you never choose a username of a current player on your team (or buy their jersey...after Terrell Owens left Philadelphia, I saw his authentic NFL jersey on sale the next day for $0.99 at Sports Authority. I actually bought one to do my oil changes in).

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by chongli

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

35 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

The mere thought of Richardson going 1st is insanity.  The dude was average at best in college, and well below average when they played power 5 competition. 

sounds familiar.

36 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/182902-we’re-trading-for-1-pick/?do=findComment&comment=6098539

 

 

This is why you never choose a username of a current player on your team

 

say what?

[Victory Formation]

58 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

JaMarcus Russell had the potential to be a good passer too.  

 

The mere thought of Richardson going 1st is insanity.  The dude was average at best in college, and well below average when they played power 5 competition.  He has the potential, but who trades that haul for a guy who MAY be good, or equally could be the worst QB taken in the 1st round.  

 

It has to be Stroud or Young, and Stroud scares me too.  He is the best pure QB in the draft but he just doesn't seem to have any fire to him at all.

Anthony Richardson is a lot like Josh Allen as far as what he can do as a runner. He’s tall, he’s well built, he’s physical, he’s a load to bring down.

 

Would I trade multiple first round picks to move up and get him? NO. But if I’m a team picking in the top 10, I would take him in a heartbeat.

 

Basically Anthony Richardson is an extremely nice project if you’re a team that is patient and willing to develop a QB. He has a big arm and if he develops as a passer he’s easily in the upper echelon of starting QBs in the NFL.

 

Is he JaMarcus Russell? Or is he Josh Allen? Only time will tell.

[NeverOutNick]

Bears traded the #1 pick to the panthers!! I love it

 

Bears get:

DJ Moore 
#9 pick this year
2nd rounder this year
Next years 1st rounder 
2025 2nd rounder

and Panthers get their franchise QB

 

Good trade for both sides.

 

if I were the bears I would’ve traded Fields and drafted Young. You get a couple more years of a cheap franchise QB who is a better passer than Fields but I get it. I think this was the perfect trade for both sides since the bears were staying with fields. 
 

Panthers could easily win the division as soon as this year with Reich and mccown having a clean slate leading Young or even Stroud. 
 

Hopefully more of these young QBs start heading to the NFC from now on

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

 

 

Good trade for both sides.

 

if I were the bears I would’ve traded Fields and drafted Young. You get a couple more years of a cheap franchise QB who is a better passer than Fields but I get it. I think this was the perfect trade for both sides since the bears were staying with fields. 
 

Panthers could easily win the division as soon as this year with Reich and mccown having a clean slate leading Young or even Stroud. 
 

Hopefully more of these young QBs start heading to the NFC from now on

Not me.  Give Fields one more year and if he sucks you'll likely have two picks in the top 10 in a better quarterback class.  You'll also have plenty of draft capital and salary cap space to surround that pick with talent.

[newcam2012]

45 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Bears traded the #1 pick to the panthers!! I love it

 

Bears get:

DJ Moore 
#9 pick this year
2nd rounder this year
Next years 1st rounder 
2025 2nd rounder

and Panthers get their franchise QB

 

Good trade for both sides.

 

if I were the bears I would’ve traded Fields and drafted Young. You get a couple more years of a cheap franchise QB who is a better passer than Fields but I get it. I think this was the perfect trade for both sides since the bears were staying with fields. 
 

Panthers could easily win the division as soon as this year with Reich and mccown having a clean slate leading Young or even Stroud. 
 

Hopefully more of these young QBs start heading to the NFC from now on

You anointed the Carlona QB draft pick a franchise QB? 

 

Wow that's pretty bold. 

40 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Not me.  Give Fields one more year and if he sucks you'll likely have two picks in the top 10 in a better quarterback class.  You'll also have plenty of draft capital and salary cap space to surround that pick with talent.

Agree 100%

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

58 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

if I were the bears I would’ve traded Fields and drafted Young. You get a couple more years of a cheap franchise QB who is a better passer than Fields but I get it. I think this was the perfect trade for both sides since the bears were staying with fields. 

 

I'm not super high on Fields but seeing Hurts breakout in his third year gives me some hope for him. I can see why they stuck with him. The dude is tough too.  The talent around him is nowhere near as good as what the Eagles built in support of Hurts though. But the two QB's style of play does feel similar. 

[Buffalo03]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

Bears traded the #1 pick to the panthers!! I love it

 

Bears get:

DJ Moore 
#9 pick this year
2nd rounder this year
Next years 1st rounder 
2025 2nd rounder

and Panthers get their franchise QB

 

Good trade for both sides.

 

if I were the bears I would’ve traded Fields and drafted Young. You get a couple more years of a cheap franchise QB who is a better passer than Fields but I get it. I think this was the perfect trade for both sides since the bears were staying with fields. 
 

Panthers could easily win the division as soon as this year with Reich and mccown having a clean slate leading Young or even Stroud. 
 

Hopefully more of these young QBs start heading to the NFC from now on

The Bears reared the Panthers without Vaseline on this trade. Not sure how it's a good trade on both sides

Edited March 11, 2023 by Buffalo03

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

The Bears reared the Panthers without Vaseline on this trade. Not sure how it's a good trade on both sides

Yup.  If you do the draft pick chart value calculation it would've been close to an even trade without DJ Moore.  The Panthers were desperate and the Bears took advantage.  If Carolina gets a franchise QB though it's a win/win trade.

[NeverOutNick]

I don’t love any of the QBs in this draft but I do think Young and Stroud are good enough to start day 1 in this league and with Frank Reich at the helm I trust they will only improve from where they are now. It was a good trade for them. If the raiders made this trade I’d agree they got hosed by the bears but the panthers with their coaching and the division and conference they play in made the right move.