Dablitzkrieg Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 6 1 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Wow...that's a tough one...the WR room loved him. 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Poached by Zay Jones 1 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Interesting that this is a lateral move. By all accounts he was well liked in Buffalo. I wonder if he wanted out or if we werent overly interested in having him return. Either way maybe itll be a change for the good since our WR development was lacking last season. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 He probably got tired of watching Dorsey call go routes all day. This doesn't help. 7 4 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Ricky Proehl on line 1? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: He probably got tired of watching Dorsey call go routes all day. This doesn't help. Multiple reactions! 🍺🏆🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) I just heard Josh Jacobs interviewed at the SB. Asked which locations he might enjoy outside of Vegas, he listed all the tax free states and was openly all about the money. That is a very real consideration. Plus, the Jags have a real QB which helps make a WR coach look better. EDIT: It may be a “mutual decision” to move on, just like the ST coach who moved to Jax, but the tax thing is real, especially for players who have a limited number of years. . Edited February 11, 2023 by Augie 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: He probably got tired of watching Dorsey call go routes all day. This doesn't help. And what significant development took place in the WR room that tells you he wasn't part of the problem? Our WR play has been terrible the last few years outside of Diggs and Beasley, both of whom were who they are when they got here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 So, did McD and Dorsey have no interest in keeping him, or did Hall want out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, jletha said: Interesting that this is a lateral move. By all accounts he was well liked in Buffalo. I wonder if he wanted out or if we werent overly interested in having him return. Either way maybe itll be a change for the good since our WR development was lacking last season. I think he wants to be an OC one day. He was just falling down the totem pole here. I wish him the best until they play the Bills. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 That hurts 5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So, did McD and Dorsey have no interest in keeping him, or did Hall want out? That’s the question 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDad51 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Since it's a lateral move, don't Bills have a right to block it? Which must mean they are OK to move on to someone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, BillsDad51 said: Since it's a lateral move, don't Bills have a right to block it? Which must mean they are OK to move on to someone else. In the OP…his contact was up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, jletha said: Interesting that this is a lateral move. By all accounts he was well liked in Buffalo. I wonder if he wanted out or if we werent overly interested in having him return. Either way maybe itll be a change for the good since our WR development was lacking last season. If he saw a lack of opportunity here in Buffalo why would he would move laterally to a team with a HC as OC? This seems as if Sean didn’t want him back or maybe he just wanted same job with an offensive minded coach, in warm weather and with no state tax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, arcane said: And what significant development took place in the WR room that tells you he wasn't part of the problem? Our WR play has been terrible the last few years outside of Diggs and Beasley, both of whom were who they are when they got here. Then why, other than being a Carolina retread, is Eric Washington still employed by the team? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: That’s the question Would love to have been a fly on the wall in some of the discussions there. Maybe there was some shade thrown at the WR staff for Gabe underperforming and the rest of the WR corps in general outside of Diggs. or Maybe his contract was up as pointed out and he just wanted to go to nicer weather. We'll probably never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 …or maybe he felt he should have been hired as the OC, waited to see if Dorsey was on solid ground after a mediocre 1st year as OC, and when he found out Dorsey was going nowhere, he bolted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Probably more $ and tax free state and better opportunity to be next in line OC or assistant OC. Our guys love him, but did our WR's get better under him? Gabe looks bad and McKenzie flopped when given a starting role. Probably good for both sides to move on 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Augie said: I just heard Josh Jacobs interviewed at the SB. Asked which locations he might enjoy outside of Vegas, he listed all the tax free states. That is a very real consideration. Plus, the Jags have a real QB which helps make a WR coach look better. Am I understanding you correctly in that you don't consider Josh Allen to be a "real QB?" 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 A mutual decision...but maybe he wanted to go to an organization that invests in the position after Diggs and beyond what was on the field this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The only logical choice for the replacement, based upon collegiate pedigree, past performance, and TBD-TSW fanboy bias: 🌟ROBERT FOSTER🌟 * 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Dorsey probably wanted to bring one of his guys in Edited February 10, 2023 by JakeFrommStateFarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, arcane said: And what significant development took place in the WR room that tells you he wasn't part of the problem? Our WR play has been terrible the last few years outside of Diggs and Beasley, both of whom were who they are when they got here. just this year, last season Davis and McKenzie had great years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Dorsey probably wanted to bring on of his guys in Someone good at iPad repairs? 🤔 Edited February 10, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: …or maybe he felt he should have been hired as the OC, waited to see if Dorsey was on solid ground after a mediocre 1st year as OC, and when he found out Dorsey was going nowhere, he bolted. Then bolted for a lateral job on a team with a HC as OC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Then why, other than being a Carolina retread, is Eric Washington still employed by the team? His contract isn't up lol. That's pretty easy They didn't fire Chad either 4 minutes ago, nucci said: just this year, last season Davis and McKenzie had great years Davis was the same player he always has been this year. A guy that can occasionally get over the top, who has a limited route tree, all of which take time to develop because he's not a good separator, and they all include deep outs, posts, and comebacks. This year we just saw what all of that looks like in the WR2 rather than WR4 role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Am I understanding you correctly in that you don't consider Josh Allen to be a "real QB?" OK, another* real QB, as in he’s not going to the Jests or the Dolphins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Someone good at iPad repairs? 🤔 C'mon man...they use MS Surface pads!!! 😂😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 This one is interesting. Could be problems in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Wow...that's a tough one...the WR room loved him. That was an issue. Too much of a friend to these young WR. Did Davis, Shakir, and McKenzie improve their mental mistakes throughout the year? He wasn't hard enough on these guys. They needed to know that the constant mental errors would not be tolerated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: Then bolted for a lateral job on a team with a HC as OC? Maybe the best option for 2023 instead of staying here? Who knows. Just speculation on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Probably more $ and tax free state and better opportunity to be next in line OC or assistant OC. Our guys love him, but did our WR's get better under him? Gabe looks bad and McKenzie flopped when given a starting role. Probably good for both sides to move on This crossed my mind as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Joe Brady stayed.. Hall doesn't seem to be in line for an OC position here. He likely needs to go somewhere else and collect accolades elsewhere if he wants to gets looks at OC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I really don’t think this makes a big difference lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This one is interesting. Could be problems in Buffalo. It's probably just that he's been here for a few years and isn't getting interviews for OC jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: C'mon man...they use MS Surface pads!!! 😂😉 Kid, when you're my age, 'iPad' is analogous to 'Kleenex'. Subbing a brand name for what the item is. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: That was an issue. Too much of a friend to these young WR. Did Davis, Shakir, and McKenzie improve their mental mistakes throughout the year? He wasn't hard enough on these guys. They needed to know that the constant mental errors would not be tolerated. There's a fine line for how much *some* of the coaching staff can do. Obviously, HC, OC & DC are super important, but can a WR receivers coach really help a pro player....best players in the world....concentrate, and/or have "better hands?" I guess they could force them to catch hundreds of balls a day from a machine, but concentration (dropping balls) and route discipline is all on the player, I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: It's probably just that he's been here for a few years and isn't getting interviews for OC jobs. Position coaches like stability. He probably thought there was more stability in Jacksonville. Which tells me the offensive staff has been put on notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Shame. I think Chad will be an OC in this league soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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