78thealltimegreat Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Interesting discussion from Joe on WGR this morning where according to analysts a 4 year deal is about 44 million for Tremaine which the Bills can definitely afford… Or would you be ok with going after someone like a Mike McGlinchey in San Francisco who is roughly the same contract over 4 years and with other decisions in San Fran likely to hit the open market he would definitely solidify RT…but LB being a priority in the draft. I like Tremaine but man I’d sleep a little easier not playing a rookie or Brown on Josh’s other side. Edited January 31, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat 1 1 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Interesting discussion from Joe this morning where according to analysts a 4 year deal is about 44 million for Tremaine which the Bills can definitely afford… Or would you be ok with going after someone like a Mike McGlinchey in San Francisco who is roughly the same contract over 4 years and with other decisions in San Fran likely to hit the open market he would definitely solidify RT…but LB being a priority in the draft. I like Tremaine but man I’d sleep a little easier not playing a rookie or Brown on Josh’s other side. If that’s the contract we could sign him for, I’d take Edmunds. You’re not getting a significant upgrade in free agency at RT for $11m per year. OL and WR’s get stupid money in free agency. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I would go OL at this point. A strong OL will allow Josh to have time in the pocket to find open receivers. A strong OL will mean a better running game with the running backs doing the running instead of #17. Allen running for his life and taking too many hits needs to stop since he is the franchise of the Bills. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Nope. McGlinchey is not that good. he is going to get paid a ridiculous amount because there is no one else out there. He is a little better than Spencer Brown right now. Not 14 million a year better. Screw that. And please don't respond with PFF garbage. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I can sign Taylor (RT) and Pocic (C) and still have money left over. This idea of keeping Tremaine is ridiculous. It's not happening. If this organization dumps 20M into Tremaine instead of helping Josh, that will divide the locker room. 6 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Edmunds is likely gone...someone is going to pay WELL above $11 million a year for him and the franchise tag is $20.9 million, so that isn't a realistic option either. Only hope is if he pulls a Milano and takes less to stay...he openly said how much he loves it here, how he loves the team, the coaches and the locker room...I guess we will see just how much. Perhaps a 6 or 7 year deal that gives him more in guarantees but helps save some money? Trade longer term and more guarantees for less overall money? Edited January 31, 2023 by Big Turk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I am ready for a demonstration of how “the cap is an illusion”. Show us the magic, Beane! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: …but LB being a priority in the draft. We got one last year, how did that work out. There is no reason to believe another LB drafted won't end up the same way. I'm assuming picks 1 and 2 are OL & WR. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I'm more concerned with the interior of our line. I would rather our weak point of the OL be the RT and not the interior. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Both is the correct answer 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Interesting discussion from Joe on WGR this morning where according to analysts a 4 year deal is about 44 million for Tremaine Just stop right there. No need to discuss further because the entire basis for this conversation is way off. If, IF, you could get Tremaine to re-sign at $11M/year, you do that immediately because that is a half-off discount on the $20M/year he is actually going to sign for. I want to know which "analyst" came up with that $11 number considering it would be a PAY CUT from what he made in 2022. And I dont ever recall a top Free Agent taking a pay cut when they hit the market. Tremaine's real numbers are more like 4/$80M. And I'd still re-sign him over a FA OT. Now, if you want to talk about a FA OG like Issac Seumalo or Ben Powers who will likely sign for far less the Edmunds or an OT, then I'm all for that discussion. 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm more concerned with the interior of our line. I would rather our weak point of the OL be the RT and not the interior. Agreed. Upgrades at the Guard spots will improve both the Interior line play AND our Tackle play. Upgrading a Tackle will not have nearly as much bang for the buck. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) If we can sign an upgrade at Tackle in FA, it's a no-brainer (well, I say that knowing full well what we'll probably do). You sign the Tackle. We draft late in RD1, late in RD2.. etc. Legit starting Tackles out the gate aren't just there for the taking in the late 20's. We can get a LB to put next to Milano on Day 1 or Day 2. Chiefs drafted Nick Bolton late *RD2. Edited January 31, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Interesting discussion from Joe on WGR this morning where according to analysts a 4 year deal is about 44 million for Tremaine which the Bills can definitely afford… Or would you be ok with going after someone like a Mike McGlinchey in San Francisco who is roughly the same contract over 4 years and with other decisions in San Fran likely to hit the open market he would definitely solidify RT…but LB being a priority in the draft. I like Tremaine but man I’d sleep a little easier not playing a rookie or Brown on Josh’s other side. Why not both? Bills can easily take on 2-4 10M plus AAV contracts. All about structure. This DO NOT need to be one or the other discussions Let me show that. Terron Armstead signed a 75M contract, AAV 15M, 2022 cap hit 3.9M Von Miller signed 120M contact AAV 20M, 2022 cap hit 5.1M Two top Paid UFAs coasting 9M against the 2022 cap. Another proof. Let me build you a UFA OL. LT - Dawkins (not going anywhere) LG - Brandon Scherff (as comparison top paid OG UFA 2022) - 7.6M cap Hit C - Morse isnt going anywhere RG - Laken Tomlinson (second highest paid OG in 2022) - 5.3M cap Hit RT - Terron Armstead (highest paid Tackle) - 5.1M cap hit. 3 New OL (with the top paid in last years UFA) - added year one cap hit 13M Edited January 31, 2023 by MAJBobby 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If the choice is to re-sign Edmunds to a multi-year contract OR use that money+ toward an impact free agent OT (not McGlinchey), then the easy answer is OT. That would also free up a draft pick for another LB (in this scenario, likely a 2nd or 3rd round pick). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, SCBills said: If we can sign an upgrade at Tackle in FA, it's a no-brainer (well, I say that knowing full well what we'll probably do). You sign the Tackle. We draft late in RD1, late in RD2.. etc. Legit starting Tackles out the gate aren't just there for the taking in the late 20's. We can get a LB to put next to Milano on Day 1 or Day 2. Chiefs drafted Nick Bolton late RD1. Late RD2 you mean. He went 2 picks before Basham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Late RD2 you mean. He went 2 picks before Basham. Gross.. For some reason I thought he was Rd1. You're right. And therein lies the difference, in a nutshell, between the personnel on KC and on BUF. They get Bolton. 2 picks later we take a JAG DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If Edmunds resigns its one of two things 1) He wants to be here 2) No one else wants him. There is no magic involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I'd like to see them re-sign Edmunds, and for him to be the ONLY guy they commit money to on defense this year. I would then like them to devote almost all remaining resources -- draft and free agency -- to bolstering the offense. As easy as it seems to say "let all the defensive guys go, put that money into the offense instead", the real truth is that letting the defensive guys go creates new holes that this front office and coaching staff will need to fill. If they don't re-sign Edmunds, you can bet they're going to have to commit high draft capital to a replacement. So re-sign Edmunds. He's your defensive captain. He's coming off his best season. He's just 24 years old. We saw the dropoff when he wasn't in the lineup this year. But after that, put all your picks and dollars into the offense. That would be my preference. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 No chance it's a 4 for $44 million contract. $15 per year or higher is what he will go for. And it wouldn't surprise me if it's a 5yr deal since he's so young (did you know he was young??) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 O-Line and WR first now. Gotta help out Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, SCBills said: Gross.. For some reason I thought he was Rd1. You're right. And therein lies the difference, in a nutshell, between the personnel on KC and on BUF. They get Bolton. 2 picks later we take a JAG DE. And to pile on, 2 picks after Basham KC came back in and took Creed Humphrey. Two HUGE impact and value picks, while we got a 2nd (3rd?) string rotational guy. 7 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: No chance it's a 4 for $44 million contract. $15 per year or higher is what he will go for. And it wouldn't surprise me if it's a 5yr deal since he's so young (did you know he was young??) Agreed. Folks need to look at what Roquan Smith just signed for. That is your Edmunds deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 It’s the home town discounts Edmunds doesn’t take away is what makes him so good. 😆 You can’t simultaneously believe Edmunds is a top 10 LB AND not expect him to ask for top 10 money. 4 years at $11 Mil is turning down Coke for Mountain Thunder. Your pie is located in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 It’s the Spotrac projected number based on position and production here see yourself https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tremaine-edmunds-25111/market-value/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I would sign him for that price. He won't be that price though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 It’s not even about money at this stage for me. I just flat out don’t even want him back. I want a new downhill physical LB that plays fast with instincts and tackling ability. Edmunds always looks like he’s thinking first, then moving. I want a guy that just plays fast football and just transforms our Defense into a physically imposing unit. Draft a guy in round 1 or 2 and just let Edmunds go learn somewhere else. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It’s not even about money at this stage for me. I just flat out don’t even want him back. I want a new downhill physical LB that plays fast with instincts and tackling ability. Edmunds always looks like he’s thinking first, then moving. I want a guy that just plays fast football and just transforms our Defense into a physically imposing unit. Draft a guy in round 1 or 2 and just let Edmunds go learn somewhere else. You need an entire coaching staff change to get what you laid out here. Which Im not necessarily against, but it takes way more than just signing a thumper., and that is a whole different thread. Our scheme does not ask the MLB to play like that, nor is it designed that way. Edmunds is incredibly good at what the team/scheme rely on him to do. Edited January 31, 2023 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, SCBills said: Gross.. For some reason I thought he was Rd1. You're right. And therein lies the difference, in a nutshell, between the personnel on KC and on BUF. They get Bolton. 2 picks later we take a JAG DE. And two picks after we take Basham, they take Crees Humphrey. They hit it out of the park. EDIT: Just saw Dawkenstein’s post, sorry to pile on 😅 Edited January 31, 2023 by JayBaller10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If we’re gonna spend $20m per year on anybody this off-season, it better be for a guy like Daron Payne. I think we get too focused on perceived holes in the roster and not enough on true difference makers regardless of position. Paying Oliver $10m next year is borderline criminal. You gotta make tough decisions like these to take the next step. Hoping that Miller and his 34 year old repaired knee puts us over the top ain’t a sound strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I hope he re-signs, but Tremaine is going to have a lot of suitors. First you have the Bears with their 100 million in cap space. The have 0 linebackers after trading Roquan Smith and Matt Eberflus asks a lot of his backers, similar to us. I think they chase Tremaine as a key cog in the middle of their defense. The Texans make a ton of sense. Once they hire Demeco Ryans, I would sign Tremaine and Dre Greenlaw and call it a day. Their defense is instantly rebuilt. They will draft a QB so they can spend big in other places. I could see the Giants make a play with that braintrust there. However, they have Barkley and Jones as UFAs. I think if Wink Martinddale is still there he is a great fit. If Wink goes to the Broncos I could see that happening as well. Tremaine was a Ravens fan, so he may want to play for Wink. As annoying as it might be, I think the Patriots will be in on Tremaine. they need to upgrade the athleticism at that position, which has been terrible for a few years. Our other AFC rival the Dolphins make a ton of sense as well, but they have some cap work to do. Tremaine's dad played for Miami. Finally, Dan Morgan in Carolina had a strong connection with Tremaine here, so i could see him trying to get him over there for whomever their DC becomes. They have cap work to do though, and need a QB. Edited January 31, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 The way our defense under Sean is constructed, Milano and Edmunds are an absolute necessity. With questions about the quality of the D-line and secondary how do you let a tackling machine with great physical attributes, walk, especially in a 2 LB defense. If those are the numbers, there’s no decision. He’s 25 and improving every year. With a better DC, he’d have 10 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) You sign both a Buffalo Bills fan shouldn’t have to choose. Make Josh Allen take a restructure his contract or flat out cut him if he refuses after that terrible season. I don’t care because Josh Allen wasn’t good enough at the end day either. If the goal is to be good not great stay the course by all means? If the goal is for the Buffalo Bills to exist to drink, party in a parking lot football is entertainment not competition and winning stay the course by all means? If the Bills mean football, competition a sport you make the changes necessary that give you the best opportunity for winning a Super Bowl championship. The Bills fan culture is terrible celebrating mediocrity. Meeting the Bills at the airport at 2 in the morning after losing is celebrating mediocrity. Worrying about tailgating going away at Bills games is celebrating mediocrity. The Buffalo Bills need to win that is all that matters. Few remember injuries and second place woulda, coulda, shoulda let’s live on love with a tambourine in your hand at the airport like in a cult. Some Bills fans need to wake up Philadelphia Eagles are looking at another Super Bowl championship along with the Kansas City Chiefs. We don’t win anything in Bills land which is ridiculous and an embarrassment I have been a Bills fan for 48 years and counting of this nonsense. The Bills failed period whatever it takes keep both and actually do more fire the Bills whole coaching staff for failure is what I would do. I don’t want to hear about money that cheap bum Terry Pegula got $850 million dollars out of the taxpayers put a Super Bowl championship team on the field or sell the Buffalo Bills PSE. UB Bulls football won the Camellia Bowl and fired there offensive coordinator Shane Montgomery because he was incompetent and failed to win a MAC championship. Have standards Bills fans like we do in UB Bulls football land in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo Edited January 31, 2023 by Buffalo Super Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Is the transition tag a possibility for Edmunds? At least transition tag is $17.48M vs. franchise tag at $20.93M. Maybe because the $3M gap is not worth losing the picks you would get if the offer is matched, but that is a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If Edmunds is gonna get $16 to $18 million a year I would spend that money all day and twice on Sundays on the O-line. See MajBobby's post on who to spend it on and how much. We could get a couple nice pieces to the O-line for the cost of one good but not elite MLB. With no cap, sure you resign him, but given our situation O-line is 10x the need MLB is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Interesting discussion from Joe on WGR this morning where according to analysts a 4 year deal is about 44 million for Tremaine which the Bills can definitely afford… Or would you be ok with going after someone like a Mike McGlinchey in San Francisco who is roughly the same contract over 4 years and with other decisions in San Fran likely to hit the open market he would definitely solidify RT…but LB being a priority in the draft. I like Tremaine but man I’d sleep a little easier not playing a rookie or Brown on Josh’s other side. Obviously this is JMO...But I think we'd all be well advised to just assume the Bills are going to re-sign Edmunds. They see him as a cornerstone. The only thing standing in the way of that would be Tremaine and his folks asking for the moon. But I've felt for a while now his situation is VERY similar to Milano's. They both strongly prefer to stay in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: You sign both a Buffalo Bills fan shouldn’t have to choose. Make Josh Allen take a restructure his contract or flat out cut him if he refuses after that terrible season. I don’t care because Josh Allen wasn’t good enough at the end day either. If the goal is to be good not great stay the course by all means? If the goal is for the Buffalo Bills to exist to drink, party in a parking lot football is entertainment not competition and winning stay the course by all means? If the Bills mean football, competition a sport you make the changes necessary that give you the best opportunity for winning a Super Bowl championship. The Bills fan culture is terrible celebrating mediocrity. Meeting the Bills at the airport at 2 in the morning after losing is celebrating mediocrity. Worrying about tailgating going away at Bills games is celebrating mediocrity. The Buffalo Bills need to win that is all that matters. Few remember injuries and second place woulda, coulda, shoulda let’s live on love with a tambourine in your hand at the airport like in a cult. Some Bills fans need to wake up Philadelphia Eagles are looking at another Super Bowl championship along with the Kansas City Chiefs. We don’t win anything in Bills land which is ridiculous and an embarrassment I have been a Bills fan for 48 years and counting of this nonsense. The Bills failed period whatever it takes keep both and actually do more fire the Bills whole coaching staff for failure is what I would do. I don’t want to hear about money that cheap bum Terry Pegula got $850 million dollars out of the taxpayers put a Super Bowl championship team on the field or sell the Buffalo Bills PSE. UB Bulls football won the Camellia Bowl and fired their offensive coordinator Shane Montgomery because he was incompetent and failed to win a MAC championship. Have standards Bills fans like we do in UB Bulls football land in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo So let me get this straight if your QB who is one of the best players in football doesn’t restructure just cut him outright? I had no idea Bill Belichick had a twobillsdrive account I don’t think Brandon Beane is listening but hey you get an A for effort 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: You sign both a Buffalo Bills fan shouldn’t have to choose. Make Josh Allen take a restructure his contract or flat out cut him if he refuses after that terrible season. I don’t care because Josh Allen wasn’t good enough at the end day either. If the goal is to be good not great stay the course by all means? If the goal is for the Buffalo Bills to exist to drink, party in a parking lot football is entertainment not competition and winning stay the course by all means? If the Bills mean football, competition a sport you make the changes necessary that give you the best opportunity for winning a Super Bowl championship. The Bills fan culture is terrible celebrating mediocrity. Meeting the Bills at the airport at 2 in the morning after losing is celebrating mediocrity. Worrying about tailgating going away at Bills games is celebrating mediocrity. The Buffalo Bills need to win that is all that matters. Few remember injuries and second place woulda, coulda, shoulda let’s live on love with a tambourine in your hand at the airport like in a cult. Some Bills fans need to wake up Philadelphia Eagles are looking at another Super Bowl championship along with the Kansas City Chiefs. We don’t win anything in Bills land which is ridiculous and an embarrassment I have been a Bills fan for 48 years and counting of this nonsense. The Bills failed period whatever it takes keep both and actually do more fire the Bills whole coaching staff for failure is what I would do. I don’t want to hear about money that cheap bum Terry Pegula got $850 million dollars out of the taxpayers put a Super Bowl championship team on the field or sell the Buffalo Bills PSE. UB Bulls football won the Camellia Bowl and fired there offensive coordinator Shane Montgomery because he was incompetent and failed to win a MAC championship. Have standards Bills fans like we do in UB Bulls football land in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo Kind of early to be drinking already, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) My only question to all of the "let Edmunds walk" people is this: Middle linebacker is a pretty important position in the McDermott/Frazier defense. If they let Edmunds walk and, let's say, spend the money instead on the offensive line or a wide receiver...are you cool with them turning around and spending a 1st round pick on a linebacker? Because it sure seems like an important enough position to this coaching staff that they'd need to devote meaningful resources to finding a replacement. While I can understand wanting to let Edmunds walk and to spend money elsewhere, it still leaves behind the question of: Who replaces Edmunds, and are you okay with the answer being "a premium draft pick"? Edited January 31, 2023 by Logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just stop right there. No need to discuss further because the entire basis for this conversation is way off. If, IF, you could get Tremaine to re-sign at $11M/year, you do that immediately because that is a half-off discount on the $20M/year he is actually going to sign for. I want to know which "analyst" came up with that $11 number considering it would be a PAY CUT from what he made in 2022. And I dont ever recall a top Free Agent taking a pay cut when they hit the market. Tremaine's real numbers are more like 4/$80M. And I'd still re-sign him over a FA OT. Now, if you want to talk about a FA OG like Issac Seumalo or Ben Powers who will likely sign for far less the Edmunds or an OT, then I'm all for that discussion. Agreed. Upgrades at the Guard spots will improve both the Interior line play AND our Tackle play. Upgrading a Tackle will not have nearly as much bang for the buck. My guess is that they got the 4 years, $44M contract estimate from Spotrac. They have it calculated as his market value. Obviously a player’s calculated value can be very different than the contract that player gets or that player’s asking price. If Edmunds was willing to sign for anything close to that contract it would’ve happened before last offseason leading into his $12.7M option year. 14 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: Obviously this is JMO...But I think we'd all be well advised to just assume the Bills are going to re-sign Edmunds. They see him as a cornerstone. The only thing standing in the way of that would be Tremaine and his folks asking for the moon. But I've felt for a while now his situation is VERY similar to Milano's. They both strongly prefer to stay in Buffalo. I fully expect the Bills to make the mistake of re-signing Edmunds to an egregiously large contract instead of using that cap space on the offense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: If that’s the contract we could sign him for, I’d take Edmunds. You’re not getting a significant upgrade in free agency at RT for $11m per year. OL and WR’s get stupid money in free agency. He got almost 13 this year, no way he takes that money. someone will pay him at least 15.....4/60 at the very least, and that's the low side. Pittsburgh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Logic said: My only question to all of the "let Edmunds walk" people is this: Middle linebacker is a pretty important position in the McDermott/Frazier defense. If they let Edmunds walk and, let's say, spend the money instead on the offensive line or a wide receiver...are you cool with them turning around and spending a 1st round pick on a linebacker? Because it sure seems like an important enough position to this coaching staff that they'd need to devote meaningful resources to finding a replacement. While I can understand wanting to let Edmunds walk and to spend money elsewhere, it still leaves behind the question of: Who replaces Edmunds, and are you okay with the answer being "a premium draft pick"? Get rid of the Frazier defense, keep Edmunds and move him to OLB where he belongs. He’d be an excellent pass rusher and has great length and speed. I’m not sure he’s been utilized to get the most out of him in this system. Trade some of our other higher value underperforming guys for draft picks. It’s odd to be in a mini rebuild right now, but it seems to be the case. Gonna need center/other o-line, safety, LB, maybe even another edge, WR amongst others. I like Edmunds. I think he’s young and would do better with a different DC who actually runs stunts and doesn’t expect their MLB’s to be the cushion until the defensive backfield picks up in the zone. I like Oliver but his production can be replicated for cheaper. We grabbed Settle and DaQuan Jones this past offseason and we can grab others this year. Edited January 31, 2023 by Aurelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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