bostonadguy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Watching his post game news conference he seemed just utterly defeated. You could see it in his eyes. I hope he takes a good break, refocuses with his QB coach and maybe some sports psychology. His body language was off all season. I do think they need to really assess the OC position. They got someone Allen trusted when they really need someone to hold Josh accountable. Daboll did that. Comes with experience. After that Green Bay game it seemed to always be push pull with those two. I’m not sure running it back for continuity’s sake is gonna work unless Beane acknowledges it was lack of talent on the OLine and Wide Receiver that held them both back. I can’t help but think we need a coordinator that won’t waste Josh’s prime years. 10 1 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Yeah cause he’s watching Brock Purdy that last few weeks and questioning WTF are we doing?! Pick 265 is balling out in an awesome offense with weapons everywhere an Oline that can play…. Not to mention an offensive genius…. 12 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 There’s a former Bills backup QB out there with HC experience. Bring him home and let him take the offense to the next level 33 2 11 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Yeah cause he’s watching Brock Purdy that last few weeks and questioning WTF are we doing?! Pick 265 is balling out in an awesome offense with weapons everywhere an Oline that can play…. Not to mention an offensive genius…. Balling out with 3 field goals. Don't deny we need more weapons though. Spring for Deandre Hopkins. I dont want to hear we dont have the cap space. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Probably defeated realizing his prime years are being burned by having lack of quality OC, talent on offense and a defense that is useless in the playoffs. This team needs a big shakeup 9 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If I was Allen I’d be dejected too…the reality that Beane will draft the BDPA (best defensive player available) is looming already… Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: There’s a former Bills backup QB out there with HC experience. Bring him home and let him take the offense to the next level Agree. Bring in reich. He won a sb with the eagles and would be great for Allen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: There’s a former Bills backup QB out there with HC experience. Bring him home and let him take the offense to the next level Bring Frank Home! 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, bostonadguy said: Watching his post game news conference he seemed just utterly defeated. You could see it in his eyes. I hope he takes a good break, refocuses with his QB coach and maybe some sports psychology. His body language was off all season. I do think they need to really assess the OC position. They got someone Allen trusted when they really need someone to hold Josh accountable. Daboll did that. Comes with experience. After that Green Bay game it seemed to always be push pull with those two. I’m not sure running it back for continuity’s sake is gonna work unless Beane acknowledges it was lack of talent on the OLine and Wide Receiver that held them both back. I can’t help but think we need a coordinator that won’t waste Josh’s prime years. I think his prime years have already been wasted based on the rise of the rest of the AFC. We missed the window last year and now we aren't just behind KC (as we will likely be forever), but also Cincy. Miami and Jets (assuming they find a QB) will push us for the division as well. Chargers, if they stop Chargering will also be in the mix. 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Are you really surprised he looked really defeated? He was. Literally and figuratively. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think he’s starting to feel the pressure of getting to the sb and it hasn’t happened yet. And he knows he’s prolly headed for surgery on his elbow soon. As bad as today was, the feeling of we are wasting him and getting him pummeled is creeping in and that hurts even worse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Probably defeated realizing his prime years are being burned by having lack of quality OC, talent on offense and a defense that is useless in the playoffs. This team needs a big shakeup I can envision a 30 for 30 some day about the wasted talent of Josh Allen with Buffalo. How he was on the rise, made amazing plays, but coaching, personnel decisions, etc. relegated him to a passing memory. Classic Bills stuff. 2 2 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 He should be dejected, every single year his team gets blown out by a physical team, and he loses with his coaches looking a mess in the playoffs. 3 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Watch any press gathering with an athlete whose season just ended and tell me you see anything different. Let's not project our own pet peeves onto how Josh looked. 9 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Yeah cause he’s watching Brock Purdy that last few weeks and questioning WTF are we doing?! Pick 265 is balling out in an awesome offense with weapons everywhere an Oline that can play…. Not to mention an offensive genius…. Is he balling out? He isn't looking so hot today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 He was defeated. 27-10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: There’s a former Bills backup QB out there with HC experience. Bring him home and let him take the offense to the next level It's officially time for Frank and a new DC. Dorsey & Frazier are done in my eyes. Poor adjustments, nothing clever. Same stubborn scheme. 3 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 They are all overrated. I don’t care what he has to say. I didn’t listen to any post game press conferences. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Lots of hot takes will happen this week, but I feel like the bills forgot how to have fun this season. Everything kinda felt like a struggle. Gotta get back to playing loose and just having fun 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 He looked totally defeated because he was totally defeated … there’s no sugar coating on this playoff stinker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: It's officially time for Frank and a new DC. Dorsey & Frazier are done in my eyes. Poor adjustments, nothing clever. Same stubborn scheme. They are going to have to fire the head coach if the want the DC gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 He can say what he willl….. but I really don’t think he has confidence in this system, the play calling or Dorsey. ”I’ll never question a call”…. PC answer. “We will work on those areas…. and yeah….” Lol it felt like he just wanted to say, what we were doing wasn’t gonna work, wasn’t working, but I guess we will work on that. Its not a good situation!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Get a phone commit for Reich and fire Dorsey on the spot. Can't blame him for taking interviews, but they can after today's performance. Then dig deep to replace frazier. The d is more jacked than the O though. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, bostonadguy said: Watching his post game news conference he seemed just utterly defeated. You could see it in his eyes. I hope he takes a good break, refocuses with his QB coach and maybe some sports psychology. His body language was off all season. I do think they need to really assess the OC position. They got someone Allen trusted when they really need someone to hold Josh accountable. Daboll did that. Comes with experience. After that Green Bay game it seemed to always be push pull with those two. I’m not sure running it back for continuity’s sake is gonna work unless Beane acknowledges it was lack of talent on the OLine and Wide Receiver that held them both back. I can’t help but think we need a coordinator that won’t waste Josh’s prime years. Yes. He looked like someone who was spent. Mentally and emotionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 They got completely dominated today. The offense was as impotent as that 90 year old that married Anna Nicole. Of course he looked defeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I think his prime years have already been wasted based on the rise of the rest of the AFC. We missed the window last year and now we aren't just behind KC (as we will likely be forever), but also Cincy. Miami and Jets (assuming they find a QB) will push us for the division as well. Chargers, if they stop Chargering will also be in the mix. Browns too. Gotta think about Baltimore as well if Lamar can stay healthy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Is he balling out? He isn't looking so hot today Last few weeks is the key statement I made…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) It’s funny, this is off-topic, but for some reason the OP made me think of it… past couple seasons, it seemed like we were only a “couple pieces away” from winning a championship. Then going into this season, it felt like we picked up the missing piece in Von Miller. but as of right now, this very moment, it seems we have so many deficiencies that it’s more like “Where the hell do we even start?” I wish I could believe this was easily fixable, but this really has the feel of taking several steps back (and quite possibly, the rest of our division may continue moving forward) Edited January 23, 2023 by BobBelcher 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Is Josh supposed to be happy he can start golfing early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: It's officially time for Frank and a new DC. Dorsey & Frazier are done in my eyes. Poor adjustments, nothing clever. Same stubborn scheme. At the end of the day, does anyone that's watched how this team operates truthfully expect them to make both or either of these changes? That's the most depressing thing today for me. More depressing than the game itself. What I expect to hear over and over is how the team failed to "execute" what they'll say was a good game plan. Ugh.. Edited January 23, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Josh is only human he could tell this iteration of the bills is over. They have to change philosophy they need a different offensive philosophy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, 4th&long said: They are going to have to fire the head coach if the want the DC gone. Partially agree. Frazier's scheme is McD's scheme. Frazier may move on, but I wouldn't expect McD to do something entirely different with a new DC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I posted during the week I did not see us winning because Josh has looked off for weeks. God love him but he cares so much for the team and the fans that he puts it all on his shoulders to have the team succeed. That plus all the adversity the team has faced with Kim and Tops and Damar, there’s only so much you can shoulder before it gets to you. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 His OC is clueless. He needs someone to help him out sometimes. Move the chains, take the easy stuff, set up for the big play. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: His OC is clueless. He needs someone to help him out sometimes. Move the chains, take the easy stuff, set up for the big play. It’s 100% on the OC. The offensive personnel doesn’t help either but this offense is like hamburger meat with zero seasoning and we refuse to use any sauce. Building a hamburger is out of the question. Vs build the biggest juiciest tasty burger for JA to eat!!!! Edited January 23, 2023 by CEN-CAL17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I can envision a 30 for 30 some day about the wasted talent of Josh Allen with Buffalo. How he was on the rise, made amazing plays, but coaching, personnel decisions, etc. relegated him to a passing memory. Classic Bills stuff. They’ll play a mini marathon of that and the Four Falls of Buffalo. Still frauds all these years later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Steptide said: Lots of hot takes will happen this week, but I feel like the bills forgot how to have fun this season. Everything kinda felt like a struggle. Gotta get back to playing loose and just having fun Considering everything they’ve been thru……considering expectations of being the favorite all year…..this is understandable. The Hamlin injury was unprecedented and they could have folded that next week. Then in RD 1. McD did a tremendous job but ultimately failed. I think he needs to start seeing himself as the figurehead and completely turn over the D to someone young and up and coming. But as I’ve said that’s not happening. They aren’t firing Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Because he knows he sucked today just like the rest of the team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Allen has every reason to be down, but he will rebound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It's a lot more fun to be the underdog. Plus I wonder how much all the pressure of not winning here and wanting it so badly is starting to get to the team. They need to get back to just playing football next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: I can envision a 30 for 30 some day about the wasted talent of Josh Allen with Buffalo. How he was on the rise, made amazing plays, but coaching, personnel decisions, etc. relegated him to a passing memory. Classic Bills stuff. And most Bills fans will be content letting that happen because they are too traumatized from the bad Bills days to take the chance vs staying status quo with no chance to ever hoist the Lombardi. Edited January 23, 2023 by BeastMaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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