RoscoeParrish Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Brandon said: Yeah, well, Allen is the main reason this team went 13-3 during the regular season, despite also playing behind a garbage OL and having an injured throwing elbow for 10 games. Sweet. 13 wins. Great job guys! We were supposed to win the whole thing and he came up small when it mattered most. 1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said: What qb can bail out the team with no protection? Please JA is not the problem. Joe Burrow. Patrick Mahomes Edited January 23, 2023 by RoscoeParrish 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 How could anyone in his right mind pin this loss on Allen. Regressed? Our team is soft on defense. They get pushed 5 or 6 yds by backup O -lineman on every running play. The are in different zip codes than receivers on every 3down. Their O-line either gives up pressure on Josh or has crucial holding calls in every series. Perhaps you might want to watch how many plays Josh has serious pressure. The Bengals just didn’t give running lanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: Sweet. 13 wins. Great job guys! We were supposed to win the whole thing and he came up small when it mattered most. Joe Burrow. Patrick Mahomes On Burrow and Mahomes - no more than Josh can. Today wasn’t his day but, in general, they’re all much of a muchness when it comes to a lack of protection. They can make some superb plays, but sometimes they will be rushed or hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, H2o said: All of the "Josh Allen has regressed" talk is absolutely ret*rded. He was 2nd in total yards and total TD's this year. Without him we'd be lucky to win 5 games. He IS the offense. Fix the OL and watch how much EVERYTHING changes. He also led the league in INTs and fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said: We were dominated in all 3 phases today, but this season and franchise has always been about Josh Allen being an elite QB and taking us to the next level. It is safe to say he regressed this year and today was the nail in the coffin. Sure you can blame the OC, but 10 points at home in a playoff game falls on the QBs shoulders in a MAJOR capacity. If this board voted on Cinci having 27 points before kickoff, most would have taken it. I am afraid Allen’s career will be an above average quarterback who shuffles between signs of greatness, signs of mediocrity, and signs of someone with zero offers out of high school. He is NOT even in the league of Mahomes and Burrow and today solidified that. He had as many boneheaded turnovers this year as his rookie season. He led the league in fumbles and INTs. He scored 10 points at home in a playoff game when he was preseason MVP and this team was preseason Super Bowl favorites. He regressed. I think he just better talent around him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, CDogg20 said: Hes regressed because he’s running for his life back there. He’s sensing pressure before its there because we have NO ONE to block for him. This needs to be addressed like rocky…asap Not entirely true. He was careless with the football all year. Led the league in red zone turnovers. But the oline got worse as the season went along and Josh only got worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Lol at some of these replies. This was a preseason Super Bowl favorite with arguably the most talented roster in the NFL. Let’s blame everyone but the guy running the show. Insufferable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDad51 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Watching the Chiefs yesterday and Bengals today... they make a lot of short passes that turn into big gains. Kelce yesterday and Hurst today were wide open. Josh does not have that kind of offense at his disposal. Chad f'ing Henne took the Chiefs 98 yards to a score. Allen can do that too, but he risks life and limb with every dropback. Edited January 23, 2023 by BillsDad51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 His apparent regression is largely due to coaching, with a weak OL a significant contributor. More WR drops don't help, but his super high depth of target is a scheme problem. People keep saying he searches for the deep shot but today he just looked harried and out of sync due to the defense beating our players over and over. I think Daboll was better at this than Dorsey. 8 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: He also led the league in INTs and fumbles. Better scheme and play calls would have cut the INTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: Lol at some of these replies. This was a preseason Super Bowl favorite with arguably the most talented roster in the NFL. Let’s blame everyone but the guy running the show. Insufferable. You're right if Josh could of stopped the Bengals on defense today we had a shot lol. Ofc Josh had a part in the loss today but you're acting like he is the main reason we lost. Honestly how you come to that conclusion after watching the game today is absurdity at its finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: He also led the league in INTs and fumbles. And..... Four of those were directly off of his guys' hands and into the other teams. He also had a pick or two while he was getting hammered throwing the ball. The fumbles happen at times because he's running for his life ALL the time. OR some happened because the OL was a complete jailbreak from the snap. He also played through a torn ligament in his elbow. Was he at fault or greedy at times? Absolutely. But he basically has to carry the entire team on his back week in and week out. The talk he has regressed is ret*rded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Lol at some of these replies. This was a preseason Super Bowl favorite with arguably the most talented roster in the NFL. Let’s blame everyone but the guy running the show. Insufferable. Seems you're blaming Allen not McD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Lol at some of these replies. This was a preseason Super Bowl favorite with arguably the most talented roster in the NFL. Let’s blame everyone but the guy running the show. Insufferable. 91 posts and every one has been bashing the QB. You must really hate the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 48 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Burrow faces Chiefs D. Mahomes gets Bengals D. They aren't on the field at the same time. All three games came down to the wire. And the Bills will be watching again.....S.O.B..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamm1966 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 This season was doomed week 2 Hyde done , too many injuries all season long , Miller was the back breaker. Oline was a mess all season . Josh went hero and lost his way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: 91 posts and every one has been bashing the QB. You must really hate the guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: 91 posts and every one has been bashing the QB. You must really hate the guy. No I like Allen a lot and want him to be great. Majority of posts on the O line, coaching, scheme, defense, etc. as the reason we lost today. I think when you score 10 points at home, it HAS to be on the QB. Edited January 23, 2023 by RoscoeParrish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: What qb can bail out the team with no protection? Please JA is not the problem. The blocking issues the Bills had today in the face of Cincy’s scheme should’ve dictated a quicker passing game. For those saying “Mahomes and Burrow”, their offensive play calling creates those options rather hanging the QB out to dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Both lines got their asses whupped. Game over. Not winning anything when that happens whomever happens to be the QB. I look forward to later this week when folks start posting reasonable takes about what Beane needs to do this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds 808080 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Any one who thnks Allen has digress is insane!!! We lost as a team including coaching!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said: I’m sorry Josh Allen is not Superman. Romo thinks he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Not a regression. Way too many contributing factors this year. He will be fine next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, UKBillFan said: 91 posts and every one has been bashing the QB. You must really hate the guy. Trolls gonna troll, at this point let him. This is his superbowl rightnow, he got what he wanted a Bills loss. It's very disturbing he does this to get his kicks but his life might be that depressing he needs this to feel better about himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Burrow has an embarrassment of riches on offense. I love Diggs. But Chase is definitely better. Mixon can be a factor. They get the ball out quick. Burrow played better lately. But the 2 and 3 spots are always juggling. Mahomes is the clear # 1. It’s not so much about Diggs vs Chase as it is Higgins and Boyd vs Gabe and Mcdummy(?). We haven’t armed Allen like we should. Biggest issue this season was that we all thought Gabe and Knox would take a step forward, and they simply didn’t. It’s Diggs and a bunch of projects. Even KC went out and scooped Juju and Toney, both B grade WRs. We just do nothing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 This franchise and coaching staff need a long look in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Josh Allen is the reason we will be relevant for another 10-15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BillzFreak said: Trolls gonna troll, at this point let him. This is his superbowl rightnow, he got what he wanted a Bills loss. It's very disturbing he does this to get his kicks but his life might be that depressing he needs this to feel better about himself. What are you talking about? I’ve been a fan for 20+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said: We were dominated in all 3 phases today, but this season and franchise has always been about Josh Allen being an elite QB and taking us to the next level. It is safe to say he regressed this year and today was the nail in the coffin. Sure you can blame the OC, but 10 points at home in a playoff game falls on the QBs shoulders in a MAJOR capacity. If this board voted on Cinci having 27 points before kickoff, most would have taken it. I am afraid Allen’s career will be an above average quarterback who shuffles between signs of greatness, signs of mediocrity, and signs of someone with zero offers out of high school. He is NOT even in the league of Mahomes and Burrow and today solidified that. He had as many boneheaded turnovers this year as his rookie season. He led the league in fumbles and INTs. He scored 10 points at home in a playoff game when he was preseason MVP and this team was preseason Super Bowl favorites. He regressed. Josh allen has regressed bc our coaching has failed him......look at mahomes..burrow....those guys are not only surrounded by great weapons everywhere they have offensive minds to scheme to their strengths....this staff is pounding a square peg into a triangle shaped HOLE...is this McDermotts team or is it Josh allens?..if it's Josh Allen's then this teams identity isn't a bend but don't break conservative defense!....this teams identity should be an innovative offense identity....the schemes are broken on both sides of the ball when going by our strengths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 get him help Build a good O line to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just seems like the offense never had rhythm all season nothing quick unless it was an rpo on a consistent basis Timing just seemed off That’s probably on both Allen and Dorsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said: This loss has very little to do with Josh Allen, But everything to do with being out schemed and dominated on both sides of the line ! I'd argue Josh ignoring open receivers to force balls into coverage is a little to do with him. He's been doing it all year. It's definitely concerning. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: What are you talking about? I’ve been a fan for 20+ years. Sure bud I understand, I'm with you. Troll as much as you need to, I just want you to be ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 After the KC game, people were discussing the Bills as Super Bowl favorites. That Allen was leading MVP candidate. Something changed. Not for the better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, BillzFreak said: Sure bud I understand, I'm with you. Troll as much as you need to, I just want you to be ok Ok Freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Just seems like the offense never had rhythm all season nothing quick unless it was an rpo on a consistent basis Timing just seemed off That’s probably on both Allen and Dorsey Called it in the off-season..said it was an absolute mistake to give dorsey the keys to the Ferrari when he had 0 driving experience......Defense is 🗑 and will always break in the playoffs..it's outdated..I mean this scheme had 1 claim to fame in the early 2000 bucs for 1 year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Got our ass kicked. It happens. Doesn’t mean you blow the whole thing up but McD and Beane have to take a critical, objective look at everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: Ok Freak No problem, you do what you gotta do. If you want you can explain more on how bad of a Qb Josh is little buddy I'll listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, RoscoeParrish said: No I like Allen. Majority of posts on the O line, coaching, scheme, defense, etc. as the reason we lost toda. I think when you score 10 points at home, it HAS to be on the QB. OK, balanced take as I’ve been someone who has been critical of Josh this season. I think physically he’s the best QB in the league, bar none. He has it all, the arm strength, the running games, the eye to spot amazing plays when others can’t or wouldn’t be able to do it. However, there is an argument that mentally he’s behind Mahomes and Burrow. If he’s still throwing up before games out of nerves, as was revealed before, that’s not a good sign. I appreciate the other two make bad plays and miss reads, but it seems far less often and not as damaging to their teams. But let’s spin it another way. Burrow has the finest talent at his disposal, as a collective, in at least the AFC. Mahomes has the best play caller in Andy Reid, and an out an out world class TE. They get better protection and better schemes. They play with better players. Part of me would love to see Josh with the Bengals or Chiefs, just for one game, and see what he could do with them. Because, like Rodgers in Green Bay, the expectation is for him to do too much on his own. Today was not his finest hour. This season has not been either, but bear in mind he has been on the injury report since week nine with an elbow issue, plus added an ankle problem at the end of the regular season. Personally, I do not like Josh and Dorsey as a combination, and feel they are too alike. Josh needs a calming influence, not someone of similar character. I think it feels like he’s regressed because the O Line - not great before - and play calling has. In truth, he isn’t much different to the regular season last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Lol at some of these replies. This was a preseason Super Bowl favorite with arguably the most talented roster in the NFL. Let’s blame everyone but the guy running the show. Insufferable. The 'guy running the show' is either McDermott or Beane. If you want to go there, yeah, I agree, there's plenty of blame to go around, particularly in terms of their roster priorities. I've been watching this sh**show for a long damn time now. It's frustrating, because they make the same mistakes on offense over and over and over. They bring in a QB, give him one or two good supporting pieces, slap bandaids on the rest and then expect the QB to hold the mess they've created together. It never works. Ever. Then, when it inevitably underperforms, they stand around wondering what the hell happened, not understanding that they didn't properly invest in their offense. Edited January 23, 2023 by Brandon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said: We were dominated in all 3 phases today, but this season and franchise has always been about Josh Allen being an elite QB and taking us to the next level. It is safe to say he regressed this year and today was the nail in the coffin. Sure you can blame the OC, but 10 points at home in a playoff game falls on the QBs shoulders in a MAJOR capacity. If this board voted on Cinci having 27 points before kickoff, most would have taken it. I am afraid Allen’s career will be an above average quarterback who shuffles between signs of greatness, signs of mediocrity, and signs of someone with zero offers out of high school. He is NOT even in the league of Mahomes and Burrow and today solidified that. He had as many boneheaded turnovers this year as his rookie season. He led the league in fumbles and INTs. He scored 10 points at home in a playoff game when he was preseason MVP and this team was preseason Super Bowl favorites. He regressed. Worst post ever!!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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