BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I don't understand this constant worrying about who says what young QB is better. You're not going to convince the vast majority of Bengals fans to choose anyone but Burrow. You're not going to convince the vast majority of Chiefs fans to choose anyone but Mahomes. You're not going to convince the vast majority of Bills fans to choose anyone but Allen. None of the above are wrong. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday What was noticeable in that game was how physical Cincinnati came out on Defense and Offense. I mean it was really obvious that was their plan. They were smashing the Bills, and giving the extra "business" on tackles and blocks...borderline dirty. Well in one case it was dirty. I do not think the Bengals coud have maintained that intensity, but they had us for the 1st Qtr. I'm sure the Bills are aware of that aspect and this game will NOT be a repeat. Buffalo will not be out-physical'd in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yup, this is it. We've seen this from McDermott and Frazier before. They don't change anything. It looked obvious to me where the Bengals wanted to go that night. But our struggles with Kelce over the years, Jefferson this season, have shown me this staff will not employ a true double team. I expect a soft zone Sunday, and would be surprised if the Bills start Elam over Jackson. I think they played press man well last week and was happily surprised to see it. Tre and Elam can do it and if they can knock Chase and Boyd or Higgins off their routes in the 1st 5 yds, that could have a great effect on Burrow's timing and maybe our front 4 getting home. We cannot afford to play soft zone and just rush 4. We will get picked apart. On the upside, I'm actually less nervous than I was last week. It's a weird sense of calm. I paid zero attention to the point spread. I knew it was foolish. Edited January 20, 2023 by nosejob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Baltimore is a bad match-up for them. They have 2 excellent corners. Always excuses when a fan of the team. So Baltimore too then is a bad match up for the Bills, who on their last 5 drives vs. Baltimore scored on 4 of them and walked down the field each time? Remember too that game was rain and not great weather on the road. BTW Bills fan can say the NYJ are a bad matchup for them (yet Burrow threw for 275 & 3 TDs vs them). Edited January 20, 2023 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Always excuses when a fan of the team. So Baltimore too then is a bad match up for the Bills, who on their last 5 drives vs. Baltimore scored on 4 of them and walked down the field each time? Remember too that game was rain and not great weather on the road. BTW Bills fan can say the NYJ are a bad matchup for them (yet Burrow threw for 275 & 3 TDs vs them). I was rooting for Balt. but Huntley is the worst QB....omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, zow2 said: What was noticeable in that game was how physical Cincinnati came out on Defense and Offense. I mean it was really obvious that was their plan. They were smashing the Bills, and giving the extra "business" on tackles and blocks...borderline dirty. Well in one case it was dirty. I do not think the Bengals coud have maintained that intensity, but they had us for the 1st Qtr. I'm sure the Bills are aware of that aspect and this game will NOT be a repeat. Buffalo will not be out-physical'd in this one. I agree. The crowd was really loud and electric too. The Bills will be ready for it. It could be a very physical game on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, zow2 said: What was noticeable in that game was how physical Cincinnati came out on Defense and Offense. I mean it was really obvious that was their plan. They were smashing the Bills, and giving the extra "business" on tackles and blocks...borderline dirty. Well in one case it was dirty. I do not think the Bengals coud have maintained that intensity, but they had us for the 1st Qtr. I'm sure the Bills are aware of that aspect and this game will NOT be a repeat. Buffalo will not be out-physical'd in this one. That was the biggest prime time game that had been played in Cincinnati in a long time. The whole city was jacked up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: What did you expect Frazier to come out and say? Tell them our game plan/strategy? What was it, 7 offensive play from Cinci and people are freaking out? 8 or 10 I think, but yeah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 With the exception of that jackass Bills hater Wright,there has been a steady ebb and flow throughout the season from multiple blogs… Simms to Florio to Cowherd, etc. MOST have neither favoured Allen or the Bills throughout. And that has been because of a combo of factors- starting with the loss of 2 Pro Bowlers on D for the season, having ALL starting D players injured during the Season, not having a count on RB for the Season, having a WR1, having several others with the Dropsys, having an OC call Dopey plays, a QB who feels he has to account for everything, because of all the previous… that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, brianthomas said: that would be a nice welcome development for sure, that all of us would love to see & have been hoping for all year. No better time than this Sunday. Dorsey can help try to make this happen as well of course by designing some early plays that help get Josh into a rhythm & not having to play behind on down & distance. Something that i havent seen as much of this 2nd half of the season that i'd like There’s a reason why we led the NFL in 3rd down conversion rate and that is because we are usually in manageable down and distance situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I'm good with it. People can chirp on both sides leading up the game to hype themselves (or the matchup) however they see fit. The great thing is that the players and coaches themselves get to settle it on Sunday at 3PM. This is a big moment for a lot of dude's legacies and narratives (Who is NFL QB 1b - Josh or Burrow?, McDermott and big games, Frazier vs. elite passing teams, Joe "Cool" Burrow and his ability to overcome the odds with a crap o-line, what's left in Tre's tank?, etc. etc. etc.). I can't wait!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Bengals were definitely having their way with us on offense. When asked if they will do anything different Leslie Fraser said they will stick with what got them here and do what they do best. So they are going to do the same thing and expect a different result? That's kind of scary. You can't say how the full game would go but Bengals definitely had the early momentum. This will be a tough game for sure and if the Bills want to prove the media wrong then they have to prove it Sunday I agree that the Bengals looked good in one half of one quarter against the Bills. What I can't agree with is the people who take 1/8 of a football game and extrapolate that into a result (Bengals win). There are all sorts of media types who make it sound like a team has never come back from being down 7-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Always excuses when a fan of the team. So Baltimore too then is a bad match up for the Bills, who on their last 5 drives vs. Baltimore scored on 4 of them and walked down the field each time? Remember too that game was rain and not great weather on the road. BTW Bills fan can say the NYJ are a bad matchup for them (yet Burrow threw for 275 & 3 TDs vs them). Well I'm certainly not a Cinci fan I'm just pointing out a fact on why they had a tough game against Baltimore, division rival as well. Both teams played down to their competition last week. I don't know if our secondary can stop Cincis recievers. That should be our biggest worry. Offense should be able to put up big points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Epstein's Mother said: I agree that the Bengals looked good in one half of one quarter against the Bills. What I can't agree with is the people who take 1/8 of a football game and extrapolate that into a result (Bengals win). There are all sorts of media types who make it sound like a team has never come back from being down 7-3. They were in FG range already at minimum and would have probably scored another TD, we showed zero signs of stopping them up to that point. Imo it was about to be 14-3. They were rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: They were in FG range already at minimum and would have probably scored another TD, we showed zero signs of stopping them up to that point. Imo it was about to be 14-3. They were rolling Or perhaps 10-3; or perhaps the Bills get a TO. Then the Bills get their 2nd possession of the game and again march down the field and score a TD, making it 10-10? Sample size is significantly much too small to do anything with. But keep trying... Edited January 20, 2023 by Pokebball 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: They were in FG range already at minimum and would have probably scored another TD, How is this knowable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Epstein's Mother said: I agree that the Bengals looked good in one half of one quarter against the Bills. What I can't agree with is the people who take 1/8 of a football game and extrapolate that into a result (Bengals win). There are all sorts of media types who make it sound like a team has never come back from being down 7-3. Imagine the effect on people's perceptions if the Bengals-Bucs game was canceled at half-time instead? Down 17-0 to that moribund Tampa Bay team, followed by a near collapse against New England and two lifeless performances against a depleted Ravens team (one of them in the playoffs). Instead, the Buccaneers hand the Bengals the game on a platter in the second half and suddenly everyone thinks the Bengals are some kind of goliath. So bizarre. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Or perhaps 10-3; or perhaps the Bills get a TO. Then the Bills get their 2nd possession of the game and again march down the field and score a TD, making it 10-10? Sample size is significantly much to small to do anything with. But keep trying... This reminds me of Monty python. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Wraith said: Imagine the effect on people's perceptions if the Bengals-Bucs game was canceled at half-time instead? Down 17-0 to that moribund Tampa Bay team, followed by a near collapse against New England and two lifeless performances against a depleted Ravens team (one of them in the playoffs). Instead, the Buccaneers hand the Bengals the game on a platter in the second half and suddenly everyone thinks the Bengals are some kind of goliath. So bizarre. That first half TB could do no wrong. Second half Cincy started drives at TB's 16, 31, 13 & 39 yard line.... BTW 237 total yards offense the game. How about Huntley too handing them the game? BTW both Baltimore games were in Cincy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) I rarely listen to any of it or read any of it. I dont search any of it out. I just wait for the game and watch what happens. Interacting here is about the only thing I do outside of just watching the games and maybe listening to WGR once in a while. The only other thing I do is look for our team stuff like who is injured, who might be back, etc. IDGAF what the media thinks good or bad. It means nothing. The only thing that matters is whether we win or lose and no article or media talk is going to have any effect on that whatsoever. Edited January 20, 2023 by Scott7975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I can't really get mad about this stuff. But I do hope Josh is watching and hearing all these pundits say that he's too mistake prone to beat Burrow. That's got to crawl under his skin. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: They were in FG range already at minimum and would have probably scored another TD, we showed zero signs of stopping them up to that point. Imo it was about to be 14-3. They were rolling IMO it was about to be 10-7 Buffalo after a pick six. Unfortunately opinions are completely worthless in predicting the outcome of a football game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Lurkin Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I couldnt stand to listen or read about how great the bills and Josh is/was early in the season. IMO, the bills play better with a chip on their shoulders. All these ranking or grades mean nothing if we dont win the SB. I jsut want 1 SB win in my lifetime. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The fact is that Allen has turned the ball over too many times recently. Many of those turnovers weren't his fault. Some of them were. When a QB is turning the ball over, the talking heads are going to talk about it. This entire fanbase needs to grow thicker skin. Good teams and good players get criticized all the time, because they find themselves in big games that attract lots of media attention and folks need to find narratives that drive clicks. That's all it is. If Allen leads us to a championship he'll be a generational QB again. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanderPoke Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) The J Mac ###### on Cowherd is the WORST. I want to punch that swarthy midget in the face. He defames Josh every chance he gets. After the Bills' victory, I hope Josh sends him a game ball signed, ***** YOU -Josh Edited January 20, 2023 by LanderPoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Good. I like being the underdog. (I know the bills are favored) All the talk is about cincy and cincy has been doing all the talking. The game will be played Sunday, the bills will do their talking on the field! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Maybe if you cannot handle other people's opinion you should stay away from actively seeking out other people's opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: The fact is that Allen has turned the ball over too many times recently. Many of those turnovers weren't his fault. Some of them were. When a QB is turning the ball over, the talking heads are going to talk about it. This entire fanbase needs to grow thicker skin. Good teams and good players get criticized all the time, because they find themselves in big games that attract lots of media attention and folks need to find narratives that drive clicks. That's all it is. If Allen leads us to a championship he'll be a generational QB again. The Brett Favre of today’s modern NFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Maybe if you cannot handle other people's opinion you should stay away from actively seeking out other people's opinion Ha! That's the story of this forum! People are here to participate in conversations with differing people with differing opinions, but then 90% of the talk is in-fighting among Bills fans because they don't agree with one another. It's a bit odd, isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Lurkin Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: The fact is that Allen has turned the ball over too many times recently. Many of those turnovers weren't his fault. Some of them were. When a QB is turning the ball over, the talking heads are going to talk about it. This entire fanbase needs to grow thicker skin. Good teams and good players get criticized all the time, because they find themselves in big games that attract lots of media attention and folks need to find narratives that drive clicks. That's all it is. If Allen leads us to a championship he'll be a generational QB again. the concerns are warranted. Just like when Mahomes was strugglng, people went after him. Josh needs o clean up his game. He cant keep forcing deep balls . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: The fact is that Allen has turned the ball over too many times recently. Many of those turnovers weren't his fault. Some of them were. When a QB is turning the ball over, the talking heads are going to talk about it. This entire fanbase needs to grow thicker skin. Good teams and good players get criticized all the time, because they find themselves in big games that attract lots of media attention and folks need to find narratives that drive clicks. That's all it is. If Allen leads us to a championship he'll be a generational QB again. The last 8 games of the regular season, Burrow had more ints than Allen. Not a word spoken about it. Not a word spoken about how Josh only has two more ints than Burrow and Mahomes. I dont really care what the media says but Allen gets more critism than those two other QBs and thats a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBy50 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Adam Pac-Man Jones just had an interview and said Josh only has his legs and no arm. This has to be the worst football take I’ve EVER HEARD. Josh likely has the craziest arm we have ever seen in league history!! No bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Yeah those 3 fumbles and 2 INT against Miami really did a number towards Josh Allen. Motivational bulletin board material indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanSD said: The fact is that Allen has turned the ball over too many times recently. Many of those turnovers weren't his fault. Some of them were. When a QB is turning the ball over, the talking heads are going to talk about it. This entire fanbase needs to grow thicker skin. Good teams and good players get criticized all the time, because they find themselves in big games that attract lots of media attention and folks need to find narratives that drive clicks. That's all it is. If Allen leads us to a championship he'll be a generational QB again. Agree with this. BUT... I'll admit the sports media is also grating my nerves this week. It's almost like being a parent or a husband. I'll have moments I get upset with my kids and wife, and express my frustrations about them. But if someone else starts ripping on my family, my protective instincts kick in I'll quickly rush to their defense. That's just not OK. So yeah, I'm not exactly happy about Josh Allen's turnovers or with how close the Bills keep making these games. And I've said so many times on this board. But when you've got these fools on ESPN saying our guys aren't even in the same class as Joe Burrow and the Bengals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: The Brett Favre of today’s modern NFL Wasn’t Brett a unanimous first ballot hall of famer? 56 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: The last 8 games of the regular season, Burrow had more ints than Allen. Not a word spoken about it. Not a word spoken about how Josh only has two more ints than Burrow and Mahomes. I dont really care what the media says but Allen gets more critism than those two other QBs and thats a fact. In addition Joe “Johnny Unitas” Burrow had less then 50 yards passing after halftime in a playoff game at home last week. If Josh did that half this board much less the sports media would have melted down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 6 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: Need to run cover two with tight coverage at the line vs the receivers and hope the DL can be disruptive in the game. If not, we're in trouble! Bills and really the whole NFL never tries to muscle Kelce at the line its crazy. Whatever soft ass coverage Frasier has plan is gonna get tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I won't be surprised if the Bills run a little more in the !st half & put pressure on Borrow & see how it goes. Then if the 2nd half we'll unleash our passing game when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Wasn’t Brett a unanimous first ballot hall of famer? In addition Joe “Johnny Unitas” Burrow had less then 50 yards passing after halftime in a playoff game at home last week. If Josh did that half this board much less the sports media would have melted down. 50 yards in a one score game. Was it mentioned once this week? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Burrow and the Bengals looked average against the Ravens. Each team has a division foe that knows how to play you. Using the Miami game as a measuring stick, Allen won the weekend. Bengals had a fluke defensive Td to break a tie and win the game. Look forward to the Sunday shoot out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1962 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Ha! That's the story of this forum! People are here to participate in conversations with differing people with differing opinions, but then 90% of the talk is in-fighting among Bills fans because they don't agree with one another. It's a bit odd, isn't it? I agree! Sometimes I am on this site and mistakenly think I am on a support group for men with PMS symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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