bobobonators Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Nelius said: Really thought Herbert would be running with Allen by now but he just simply doesn't seem to have it. Plays timid almost. Feels like every game he plays is an inconsequential 280 yards and 1 passing TD. Thats a HC/system problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: This knocks Herbert down some spots in the great QB debate. He is not the guy Literally Phillip Rivers 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: It’s amazing that Josh is statistically the best playoff QB ever and people love to question whether he’s a top 3 QB or not. Trevor Lawrence throws 4 picks before mounting a comeback in his first playoff game ever and is anointed as being in the same tier as Josh. Make it make sense. That poster's reaching has gotten out of hand lately. He think he's slick. He was praising Mac Jones last week too until Mac inevitably collapsed like everybody knew he would. He'll worm his way into every thread to highlight the QB of the moment in some weird attempt to tear down Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Not quite. That comeback that Lawrence engineered was fantastic and he played great showing a lot of grit. But he did throw 4 INT's in the first half. You just can't forget that. I would say that Lawrence is CLOSE to being in that conversation but he's not there yet. Maybe not there yet, but he got a LOT closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Just now, RocCityRoller said: Literally Phillip Rivers 2.0 I was gonna say Jeff George 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: It’s amazing that Josh is statistically the best playoff QB ever and people love to question whether he’s a top 3 QB or not. Trevor Lawrence throws 4 picks before mounting a comeback in his first playoff game ever and is anointed as being in the same tier as Josh. Make it make sense. What year was Allen in when he played awesome in the playoffs? It wasn’t his second and (truly asking) has Allen ever had a half where he absolutely stunk and then came back and was one of the main reasons they win that game? What Lawrence did was special and shows the kid is mentally tough something rare about that now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: Why do people feel the need to share their bets? Seriously who cares? Why share your opinions at all? Seriously who cares? Edited January 15, 2023 by dma0034 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, jcamm1966 said: Colin Cowherd @ColinCowherd · 9m Justin Herbert deserves a big time OFFENSIVE coach. Maybe one w experience and that’s had success in playoff football. One that wouldn’t blow a 27-0 lead. One that’s respected and could build an elite staff. Anyone come to mind? That HC’s OC is already the OC of the Chargers. I’d be much more interested in McVay over Payton. But, that’s not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said: Breaking news Colin Cowherd defends Herbert on Monday Breaking breaking news Staley is 100% fired and In comes Sean Payton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Real McNasty said: He did throw 4 picks to get into that mess though but I agree. He is in my top 10 now overall. I like Herbert alot but he is looking like Rivers now early on. with the season on the line, an elite QB doesn't dump the ball off for 7 yards on 3rd and 12. Can't happen 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, BLeonard said: I've always equated it to where a pitcher in baseball follows through with a pitch, even if the umpire calls time before the pitch is thrown. As I understand it, it's a momentum thing and to stop may cause an injury, whereas simply following through with the pitch (or kick), even if it won't count, is the safer option. I agree they should stop this practice. When I've seen it happen you can tell neither the kicker nor the holder were expecting the ref to run out in front of them. If they keep it up, one of these times a ref is going to get kicked in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Well now we know "Playoff Justin" is not a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: I think I might put him over Herbert at this point though. Which, for me, puts him at QB4 in the league behind Allen, Mahomes and Burrow. In the AFC it's definitely Mahomey, QB1, Home Alone and Fabio. Herbert is becoming very over rated. Maybe Payton can re-boot him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: It’s amazing that Josh is statistically the best playoff QB ever and people love to question whether he’s a top 3 QB or not. Trevor Lawrence throws 4 picks before mounting a comeback in his first playoff game ever and is anointed as being in the same tier as Josh. Make it make sense. Airseven HATES the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, chongli said: Here ya go: https://www.thepowderblues.com/forum/forum/los-angeles-chargers-forum-nfl-forum-padres-forum/the-los-angeles-chargers-forum/1453682-disaster-post-game-meltdown-thread [also the end of their game day thread a little below] ha Ha HA Thank you for this 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Mike Williams could come in handy 2H DOOOOAAH!!! Edited January 15, 2023 by Since1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said: What year was Allen in when he played awesome in the playoffs? It wasn’t his second and (truly asking) has Allen ever had a half where he absolutely stunk and then came back and was one of the main reasons they win that game? What Lawrence did was special and shows the kid is mentally tough something rare about that now. You cant be serious with this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: LOL who was it, Chris Simms or Jason Garret who was telling us before the game about how Herbert was the best QB? I forget all that was said but it was praising how great he was at making his reads and knowing where to go with the ball on time and he was the best passer from the pocket Herbert is a weird one. Cause he checks off every box Then you watch his games and think this guy is “good “, but he just misses that 6th sense. It is really hard to describe 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, bobobonators said: This is the best thing that could’ve happened. Get Sean Payton on the chargers. Herbert gets better. Chiefs lose more games. Advantage Bills. Maybe. Also kelce is going to be 34 this year so theres that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Lawrence can make a case for being in that top 5 or 6 qb range now. I don’t want to hear about Herbert anymore dude just flat out doesn’t show up in big games. He did this several times during the regular season and last year. In that case Herbert really is the perfect Rivers replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Just now, Big Blitz said: That HC’s OC is already the OC of the Chargers. I’d be much more interested in McVay over Payton. But, that’s not happening. Staley had some good calls last year going for it on 4th down. I think Herbert isn't as good as advertised. He has a bunch of elite weapons around him: Allen, Williams and Ekeler and yet whenever I've watched him I've never seen him make a lot of WOW plays. He seems to be a poor man's Josh Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: In the AFC it's definitely Mahomey, QB1, Home Alone and Fabio. Herbert is becoming very over rated. Maybe Payton can re-boot him? Lawrence isn’t there yet-I would put him in the same tier as Herbert, but not with those other 3. There’s basically a tier 1 then a tier 3, there’s no tier 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Why share your opinions at all? Seriously who cares? Sorry friend. I deleted the post afterwards. Realized it came off harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: He’s not doing that to Mahomes KC is headed to the AFC title game…again…whether or not the Bills meet them for part 3 we will see If anyone knows Andy Reid it is Doug Pederson. Pederson was Reid's backup QB in Philly when McNabb was drafted. Reid may have to face 2 of his protege/ lineage in the playoffs (Pederson and McDermott) The tree grows stronger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: What year was Allen in when he played awesome in the playoffs? It wasn’t his second and (truly asking) has Allen ever had a half where he absolutely stunk and then came back and was one of the main reasons they win that game? What Lawrence did was special and shows the kid is mentally tough something rare about that now. He had 7 touchdowns on 7 drives against your pats in sub artic temperatures. Does that count for anything? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Looked like they were laughing and smiling Just seemed weird Kicker to kicker. I can make sense of it even though I don't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcamm1966 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 KC 44 Jax 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: This knocks Herbert down some spots in the great QB debate. He is not the guy Obviously not a great second half for Herbert but 40 yard fg and they win. Agree he hasn’t won any big games. Bosa and coaching own this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 It’s just as well I guess… the Chargers showed who they are; choke artists extraordinaire. They’ve got talent, but if they somehow got a lead vs KC they’d surely find a way to blow it. Maybe Jags have a punchers chance as they have a better HC than Staley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: He had 7 touchdowns on 7 drives against your pats in sub artic temperatures. Does that count for anything? No because he wasn’t trash enough in the first half to show how mentally strong he is 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 The Jaguars have the type of offense that is good enough to put up 40 on Dallas and Dougy P is a master strategist. He will have the Chiefs D flummoxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: I was gonna say Jeff George 2.0 It's the Charger uniform for me. And the fact both are excellent regular season QBs, but choke in the playoffs. At least Rivers got upset when he lost in the playoffs. Herbert is like a mannequin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Man... assuming no upsets: Bills play the Bengals and the Chiefs get the Jags!? Wow... that 1 seed they were gifted was super important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 no offense and no defense whatsoever 2H. That’s pretty hard to do in playoff team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, jcamm1966 said: KC 44 Jax 20 Agree wanted Bolts because of familiarity. Jags likely burned all good ☘️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 AFC QB hierarchy Tier 1: Allen, Mahomes Tier 2: Burrow (I can't put him in Tier 1 but he's above Tier 3. Spot reserved for Lawrence) Tier 3: Lawrence, Herbert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 As soon as the Chargers couldnt get it done on their last offensive series I knew this was over. Staley if he had any balls or brains should have faked the punt on 4th down and ran the ball. Its not like it would have made any difference if they had failed. By the middle of the 4th, the Chargers D was gassed and Bosa mouthing off to the refs insured that they were not going to get any holding calls or breaks. It amazes me that these coaches are so useless in the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Man... assuming no upsets: Bills play the Bengals and the Chiefs get the Jags!? Wow... that 1 seed they were gifted was super important If bills win and ravens somehow win, Bills get Jags. I think Bengals win but if Huntley plays, ravens have half a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: What year was Allen in when he played awesome in the playoffs? It wasn’t his second and (truly asking) has Allen ever had a half where he absolutely stunk and then came back and was one of the main reasons they win that game? What Lawrence did was special and shows the kid is mentally tough something rare about that now. That first half by Lawrence, playing at home against an average defense, was beyond terrible. Allen has never had a half that bad. All credit is due the guy for leading a great comeback but against the Bengals, Bills & Chiefs the game would be over at half if Lawrence throws 4 INT's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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