VaMilBill Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Too bad we couldn’t be facing mike white right before we played them. Flacco will be starting by the next time we play. And he’s gonna shred our secondary i bet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Apparently he didn't look great when he played earlier in the year...put up better numbers but didn't look amazing. The last few times I’ve watched Joe Flacco since he’s been a backup, he’s barely capable of even moving the chains on offense. I don’t think people comprehend how big of a fall Flacco’s career has seen. He was never “elite”, but occasionally found his way into that conversation. Here’s a Super Bowl winning QB, once considered a good player, now he’s a third string QB. That doesn’t happen unless everyone knows you’re washed up. Think of all the chances someone like Matt Ryan has been given over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Wilson will be in street clothes for this week's game. He's inactive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Wow...Saleh must be taking the temperature of the locker room there... No starter announced yet but Mike White has moved ahead of Flacco on depth chart. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/23/jets-bench-zach-wilson/amp/ I agree. This has to be locker room driven. Wilson is a bad QB, but White and Flacco are worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: Wilson will be in street clothes for this week's game. He's inactive. Yep. Holy crap. From starter to 3rd string ... just like that. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35091901/sources-jets-players-told-qb-zach-wilson-start-sunday "Zach's career here is not over," Saleh said. "I know that's going to be the narrative and I know that's what everybody wants to shout out, but that's not even close to the case. The full intent is to make sure Zach gets back on the football field this season. When that is, I'll make that decision. I'll take it day-to-day." (sound familiar???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Jest gonna Jest. "If you listen to the fans in the stands, you'll be joining them" - Marvcus Levy. I don't think it's a "listen to the fans" thing. I think Wilson totally pissed off the defense with his responses in the post-game presser, especially if they reflect his demeanor in the locker room. I know if I were part of a defense that just held the Patriots to 3 points and lost on a stupid decision to punt down the middle of the field, I would want my QB to respond to a question "do you feel you let the defense down?" about 100 different ways other than "No. No." If Wilson honestly feels he played his ass off and the WR and OL and play design totally let him down, there are plenty of better responses - he can say something like "We lost. It sucks. Any time you put up less points than the other team, the offense needs to play better and that starts with me". Very canned and not particularly personally accountable, but better than "No. No." I'm just weirded out at how good the Bills managed to make Wilson look against us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I still think Fields has the best chance to succeed from that draft class. I never liked Lawrence and Fields has gotten a bit better but still has a long way to go. Bears have very little talent around him. Wilson was hot garbage before he was drafted. The rest of the Jets roster is somewhat competent. White is a terrible QB too. Benching Wilson at this point means he has to be replaced next year. There is no going back from this for the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) No leadership ability, NONE,ZIP Edited November 23, 2022 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Apparently he didn't look great when he played earlier in the year...put up better numbers but didn't look amazing. Accept he looked poised and confident vs. the Bills.... Just saying..... Were the Bills so scared of his passing that they defended the pass, allowing the Jets run for 175, and still allowed him to complete 72% of passes (mostly underneath)? Edited November 23, 2022 by Billsfan1972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Benching Wilson at this point means he has to be replaced next year. There is no going back from this for the organization. Well, if that holds true we'll see him in Carolina for a few games. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: No leadership ability, NONE,ZIP Yup, he deserves this. Needs to learn some leadership abilities and grow up. I’m not sure he can…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, HOUSE said: No leadership ability, NONE,ZIP Have you watched the kid at the Thursday night social, TGIF's? 🧐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I still think Fields has the best chance to succeed from that draft class. I never liked Lawrence and Fields has gotten a bit better but still has a long way to go. Bears have very little talent around him. Wilson was hot garbage before he was drafted. The rest of the Jets roster is somewhat competent. White is a terrible QB too. Benching Wilson at this point means he has to be replaced next year. There is no going back from this for the organization. Salah appears to disagree with you, so, we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancing_joker Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 As a Bills fan, I really think Wilson needs another 2 maybe 3 years before you know he’s not the guy. Take 10 even…you really need to be sure your decision is the correct one haha 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 This smells like a desperation move by the Jets knowing they are facing an uphill battle the rest of the season with some very tough games left on the road against Bills/Vikings/Dolphins/Seahawks. Even with marginal improvement with QB play I have a hard time seeing them going 1-3 at best in these games. But at the end of the day it's still pretty depressing we lost to this team with Wilson playing QB and will likely be the game that haunts this team down the road if they were to finish a game behind KC in the final standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Never draft a qb from BYU Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 He looked so good in little league too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Never draft a qb from BYU Steve Young would disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Such a Billsy thing to lose to this team. Gosh dang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, zow2 said: Wilson will be in street clothes for this week's game. He's inactive. wow, serious demotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Never heard of the yips from a QB throwing a football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I don't think it's a "listen to the fans" thing. I think Wilson totally pissed off the defense with his responses in the post-game presser, especially if they reflect his demeanor in the locker room. Taking orders from the players gets you in the stands just as quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Noooooo Old Billy Belichick claims another scalp 4 minutes ago, LeviF said: Taking orders from the players gets you in the stands just as quickly. “If you listen to the fans, you’ll find yourself sitting with them” was said by Philadelphia Eagles football coach Joe Kuharich (1917-1981) in 1967. Edited November 23, 2022 by RocCityRoller 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I don't think it's a "listen to the fans" thing. I think Wilson totally pissed off the defense with his responses in the post-game presser, especially if they reflect his demeanor in the locker room. I know if I were part of a defense that just held the Patriots to 3 points and lost on a stupid decision to punt down the middle of the field, I would want my QB to respond to a question "do you feel you let the defense down?" about 100 different ways other than "No. No." If Wilson honestly feels he played his ass off and the WR and OL and play design totally let him down, there are plenty of better responses - he can say something like "We lost. It sucks. Any time you put up less points than the other team, the offense needs to play better and that starts with me". Very canned and not particularly personally accountable, but better than "No. No." I'm just weirded out at how good the Bills managed to make Wilson look against us. I didn't know that he basically threw his D under the bus. Bench his azz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: “If you listen to the fans, you’ll find yourself sitting with them” was said by Philadelphia Eagles football coach Joe Kuharich (1917-1981) in 1967. Thanks Mr. Clavin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 35mil guaranteed and his uncle founded JetBlue - think he'll be alright if he doesn't make it. Rosen the 2nd ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, dancing_joker said: As a Bills fan, I really think Wilson needs another 2 maybe 3 years before you know he’s not the guy. Take 10 even…you really need to be sure your decision is the correct one haha Probably. Jets spent way too much draft capital, they will probably hope they can salvage him. After he Geno Smith resurrection, nothing is impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: This smells like a desperation move by the Jets knowing they are facing an uphill battle the rest of the season with some very tough games left on the road against Bills/Vikings/Dolphins/Seahawks. Even with marginal improvement with QB play I have a hard time seeing them going 1-3 at best in these games. But at the end of the day it's still pretty depressing we lost to this team with Wilson playing QB and will likely be the game that haunts this team down the road if they were to finish a game behind KC in the final standings. The Jets fans and media act like their defense is soooo Good. I think (hope) they get exposed in their upcoming games. I think their D is overrated. Like all NFL teams, they have some good players but are not the brick wall they think they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: I didn't know that he basically threw his D under the bus. Bench his azz I don't know that he threw the D under the bus per se, but he was asked straight out: "you scored 3 points, do you feel you let the defense down?" and he said very shortly "No. No." It came across as very lacking in personal responsibility, especially compared to other QB in the league who had situations where they were playing hurt and had an OL that wasn't even handing defenders a tube of lube as they flew by, but still took responsibility "Yes, starts with me, I have to play better". I think Saleh had to bench Wilson's ass or lose the locker room. Edited November 23, 2022 by Beck Water 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: I didn't know that he basically threw his D under the bus. Bench his azz I saw the presser. Wilson was asked if he or the offense let the defense down (held NE to 3 points until the last minute punt return). Wilson said no in a pretty flippant manner. Compare to Allen who had some costly picks/ the fumble in losses. 'It was on me, I need to do better'. Even then the Bills had chances to win most of those games, but Allen acknowledged his errors and took the blame for the losses like a leader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, LeviF said: Taking orders from the players gets you in the stands just as quickly. A fair point, but failing to react appropriately to performance and "read the room" will also put you there. Consider if McDermott failed to acknowledge to the team that he made a mistake starting Peterman but instead kept playing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, LeviF said: Thanks Mr. Clavin. 🤣 Thanks! I always thought it was Polian who said it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Wilson is bad, like really bad. They should have stuck with Flacco Pretty awesome that Mac Jones played Wilson to a 3-3 draw too. The backup quarterbacks appear to be better than the starters on both those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: A fair point, but failing to react appropriately to performance and "read the room" will also put you there. Consider if McDermott failed to acknowledge to the team that he made a mistake starting Peterman but instead kept playing him. I'm not a Zach Wilson guy but he's better than Mike White and Joe Flacco. It's not even a debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: I saw the presser. Wilson was asked if he or the offense let the defense down (held NE to 3 points until the last minute punt return). Wilson said no in a pretty flippant manner. Compare to Allen who had some costly picks/ the fumble in losses. 'It was on me, I need to do better'. Even then the Bills had chances to win most of those games, but Allen acknowledged his errors and took the blame for the losses like a leader. As someone else mentioned. I think his head coach was in danger of losing the locker room if he kept Wilson playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, LeviF said: I'm not a Zach Wilson guy but he's better than Mike White and Joe Flacco. It's not even a debate. Mmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, LeviF said: I'm not a Zach Wilson guy but he's better than Mike White and Joe Flacco. It's not even a debate. I'd suggest actually watching them play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Scott7975 said: The kid is oblivious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Malazan said: I'd suggest actually watching them play. As opposed to what, posting counting stats? You people are out of line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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