Beck Water Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think we do pretty well with Hamlin replacing Hyde, and he'll continue to get better. But IMHO if both Poyer and Hyde are out, it's a drop-off with Hamlin and Johnson esp against the run. Even if Poyer is not out for very long, I think our depth at safety is very thin and reinforcements would be prudent. So.....who is available either by trade, or lurking on someone's PS, who might be an upgrade on Johnson or at least decent depth? Teams who are edging towards "out of it" and might be trade partners would include: AFC Texans Steelers Jags Raiders - possibly Browns if they lose to the Bengals tonight, but they're likely still hoping to run the tables when Watson returns NFC Lions Panthers - I don't think the Rams Packers and Bears have given up on the season yet, nor have the Bucs and Saints with being only 1 game behind the division lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Duke Williams Jonathan Meeks Baccari Rambo Jairus Byrd Cory Graham 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Duke Williams Jonathan Meeks Baccari Rambo Jairus Byrd Cory Graham Maybe Ko Simpson could be enticed to come back as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Maybe Ko Simpson could be enticed to come back as well THE Ko Simpson?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Duke Williams Jonathan Meeks Baccari Rambo Jairus Byrd Cory Graham George Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Fitzpatrick from Steelers. Moss and a 5th! J/K. I have no idea. Any chance Jari Alexander wants to come play here, move Benford to Safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 🎶 Where did you go George Saimes-io Bills Mafia turns its Lonely eyes to you Boo hoo hoo 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: George Wilson Him and Henry Jones don’t get the love they deserve!! Bring one of them back to lead the charge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I would call the Raiders about Jonathan Abram. They did not pick up his 5th year option. He has shown steady improvement this year from being a disappointment as a first rounder. He can play free, strong and come in the box on running plays. Ran a 4.45 at the combine and is a player on the rise. He is stout against the run and his tackling has improved. He could benefit from being in this defense. Would offer the Cody Ford 5th and go to a 4th if they want more. Evaluate him for a longer term deal this last half a year. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 what’s Jeff Nixon up to these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: what’s Jeff Nixon up to these days? Kelso is more in game shape from reffing. Plus we need the Great Gazoo helmet back on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I hear Coy Wire has stayed in shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, JoeF said: I would call the Raiders about Jonathan Abram. They did not pick up his 5th year option. He has shown steady improvement this year from being a disappointment as a first rounder. He can play free, strong and come in the box on running plays. Ran a 4.45 at the combine and is a player on the rise. He is stout against the run and his tackling has improved. He could benefit from being in this defense. Would offer the Cody Ford 5th and go to a 4th if they want more. Evaluate him for a longer term deal this last half a year. All fair points.. But you left out the part of how horrible he is in coverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Maybe Ko Simpson could be enticed to come back as well 22 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: THE Ko Simpson?! can’t afford him. Dude is worth millions. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, JoeF said: I would call the Raiders about Jonathan Abram. They did not pick up his 5th year option. He has shown steady improvement this year from being a disappointment as a first rounder. He can play free, strong and come in the box on running plays. Ran a 4.45 at the combine and is a player on the rise. He is stout against the run and his tackling has improved. He could benefit from being in this defense. Would offer the Cody Ford 5th and go to a 4th if they want more. Evaluate him for a longer term deal this last half a year. Thanks for a reasonable response anyway. As far as teams who might be willing to listen in trade talks, I'm thinking the Steelers, Texans, Jags, and Raiders in the AFC and the Lions and Panthers in the NFC. What about Xavier Woods from the Panthers? I know nothing about how he's played, but he's a reasonable salary this year and signed for 2 more years. The Carolina Connection has presumably dried up some with a change of GMs and HCs but I think the Bills staff still know enough people in the building to get a "feel" for how he prepares and plays (though that failed them with Fat Kelvin) 8 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: All fair points.. But you left out the part of how horrible he is in coverage. I guess a question is, is it him? or is it his coaching/scheme? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 How about Tremaine's brother, believe he is on one year deal with steelers. This board would go wild figuring out who to trash. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 My guess is when they activate white they may move benford there for some practice. Elam will already likely get relegated for a lot of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 By god, is that Christian Wade's intro music!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I guess a question is, is it him? or is it his coaching/scheme? It’s him. He’s a Jamal adams type safety. He might be one of the hardest hitters in the league. If I remember correctly he’s hurt himself more than once trying to crush players his first couple years. He does seem to be turning a corner but maturity and being in a contract year help that. He’s not a bad player but for a team that plays coverage as much as Buffalo I don’t think he’d be very successful in that scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The answer is on the roster— start getting Benford some reps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Dean Marlowe for a 6th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: By god, is that Christian Wade's intro music!? Wrong Thread lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, corta765 said: Wrong Thread lol He can do it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I posted this in the other thread, but Abram, Edmunds, Wingard are probably the ones maybe available on one year expiring deals on crap teams. I think the most logical move for the Bills is, move Neal back to safety full time. He came into the league as a safety and still have no idea why he wasn't kept there. During training camp, they were evaluating Mccould vs Lewis as the last roster spot. Both guys were getting time at safety. My guess, Cam Lewis could probably step in too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) I'll throw out Dean Cain and Ron Pitts.... Edited October 31, 2022 by Freddie's Dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: THE Ko Simpson?! I was thinking Bill Simpson, but I am old, and Bill's older... Leonard Smith and Kurt Schultz Some Snot Knockers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 55 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: The answer is on the roster— start getting Benford some reps! I would tend to agree. I'm sure Beane will look around to see what might be available, but most likely it's "next man up". Just have to hope that as of now Poyer can be back relatively healthy later in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: I think we do pretty well with Hamlin replacing Hyde, and he'll continue to get better. But IMHO if both Poyer and Hyde are out, it's a drop-off with Hamlin and Johnson esp against the run. Even if Poyer is not out for very long, I think our depth at safety is very thin and reinforcements would be prudent. So.....who is available either by trade, or lurking on someone's PS, who might be an upgrade on Johnson or at least decent depth? Teams who are edging towards "out of it" and might be trade partners would include: AFC Texans Steelers Jags Raiders - possibly Browns if they lose to the Bengals tonight, but they're likely still hoping to run the tables when Watson returns NFC Lions Panthers - I don't think the Rams Packers and Bears have given up on the season yet, nor have the Bucs and Saints with being only 1 game behind the division lead. Do you want a Trade??? Chuck Clark from the Ravens.. 27 years old, has another year after this on a cheap Contract. 16 game starter before got burried behind Williams and Hamilton this year. THAT is the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Do you want a Trade??? Chuck Clark from the Ravens.. 27 years old, has another year after this on a cheap Contract. 16 game starter before got burried behind Williams and Hamilton this year. THAT is the trade. The thing is, he's not buried behind them. He's played 100% of the defensive snaps in all 8 games. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ClarCh00.htm I'd love him, sure, but why would the Birdies deal him? 1 hour ago, boyst said: Dean Marlowe for a 6th I wouldn't hate it, but since he just started a win for the Falcons and they're currently leading their crap division with a record that would be last in a more competitive group, I think they say "nope" Edited October 31, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Beck Water said: The thing is, he's not buried behind them. He's played 100% of the defensive snaps in all 8 games. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ClarCh00.htm I'd love him, sure, but why would the Birdies deal him? I wouldn't hate it, but since he just started a win for the Falcons and they're currently leading their crap division with a record that would be last in a more competitive group, I think they say "nope" Hamilton and Williams are the "starters" Granted I will give you that the Ravens have been playing 3 safeties due to their INJ at CB. And then Williams went on IR. I forgot about that, so yep take that idea off the list. Edited October 31, 2022 by MAJBobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Terrell Burgess and Rapp from Rams are other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If the Bills feel that there is an actual need, I have confidence that they have anticipated that two 30 plus year old safeties have a limited shelf life that may expire suddenly. We don't know what the team does during the closed portions of practice and we don't know who they have prepared. Some contributors in this forum have already identified some possible options (Benford, Neal, T. Johnson, etc.). If they don't make a move at the trade deadline, they are comfortable with their current options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Wonder if Xavier Rhodes, who is on the Bills practice squad, could have any success at safety? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Trade Moss to Cleveland for Safety Grant Delpit and RB Hunt. It must be happening, I didn't see Moss last night. If Delpit and Hunt are out tonight, this trade is on. 💀 Mark Kelso's helmet is ready and able. Edited October 31, 2022 by frostbitmic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 John Hagy or Pierson Prioleau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeF said: I would call the Raiders about Jonathan Abram. They did not pick up his 5th year option. He has shown steady improvement this year from being a disappointment as a first rounder. He can play free, strong and come in the box on running plays. Ran a 4.45 at the combine and is a player on the rise. He is stout against the run and his tackling has improved. He could benefit from being in this defense. Would offer the Cody Ford 5th and go to a 4th if they want more. Evaluate him for a longer term deal this last half a year. Abram is big time hitter and best in run game. Coverage skills are not great. If we go S we need good cover guy imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, Special K said: Wonder if Xavier Rhodes, who is on the Bills practice squad, could have any success at safety? Asked this in a previous post...It makes some sence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Here is a realistic look by Cover 1...good breakdown on the players as well: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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