SoCal Deek Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think Milano knew it hit the ground first. He didn’t react at all like a guy who’d just been robbed. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Milano definitely has a knack for always being around the ball. It’s uncanny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: @Dopey, are you trying to get banned from this forum? Speaking positively about Edmunds might trigger it😎 many of his tackles were too far past the LOS. cut him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I think Milano knew it hit the ground first. He didn’t react at all like a guy who’d just been robbed. I think even he wasn’t sure whether it hit the ground or not, as he was staring at the video screen the whole time afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Edmunds quietly had a 16 tackle game.....not that the Edmunds haters wanna see THAT! That was only because he allowed so many plays against him! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I believe I saw the turf shoot up from the top of the ball. If Milano really caught it, I think he would have protested McD for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 "Just the tip." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Huh???? No way is it clear. Not sure what you’re looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Because it was ruled an incomplete pass on the field and coaches can’t challenge in the final two minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 You know how you it wasn't a catch? By Milano's lack of argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Heck of a play by Milano. It was close Edited October 31, 2022 by Toyo321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The ball absolutely hit the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 This is a non topic. You could 100% see the ball hit the ground first. It was close, but there is no doubt, it hit the ground. Which is why no one in the Bills made a stink with the refs. It was clear as day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This is a non topic. You could 100% see the ball hit the ground first. It was close, but there is no doubt, it hit the ground. Which is why no one in the Bills made a stink with the refs. It was clear as day. Agreed with all... it was pretty clear. In fact has it been ruled an interception, I’m sure it would have been overturned. The ball quite clearly went through his hands, hit the turf and bounced into his stomach. That call was definitely not why we lost the game. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Yes, my understanding is if your hands are under and the ground didn't affect possession then the tip can hit the ground, which was the case. More so the fact there wasn't a review was perplexing. The player catching the ball must have control before the ball hits the ground. The ball appeared to hit the ground as Milano caught it. So incomplete would be the correct call. Live I thought it was a pick, but the replay showed the tip of the ball hitting the ground as it hit Milano’s hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I agree with you it looked like he had his hands under the ball I have no idea why they didn’t get a booth review The ball landed on his hands but kept on going and the tip hit the ground before he squeezed it. I was hopeful for one replay but the others showed it really clearly. I was amazed the refs made the right call at game speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: The ball landed on his hands but kept on going and the tip hit the ground before he squeezed it. I was hopeful for one replay but the others showed it really clearly. I was amazed the refs made the right call at game speed. Right, the tip hits and bounces off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Einstein said: I'm amazed at the # here claiming it hit the turf. My understanding is it can hit the turf if you have control of it and Milano did. To me at the very worst they should have reviewed it and it was a replay they had to watch closely. Not way that call is made in 5-10 seconds. 6 minutes ago, syhuang said: Right, the tip hits and bounces off the ground. And I say no it does not, Milano's hands are under it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I think Milano knew it hit the ground first. He didn’t react at all like a guy who’d just been robbed. I agree. I thought for sure that it was really close and maybe bounced off his fingers instead of the turf, but I knew it couldn't have been a clean catch when I saw Milano's reaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: My understanding is it can hit the turf if you have control of it and Milano did. If it touches the ground after the player has control, the Bert Emmanuel rule enables it to still be considered a catch if that control is maintained. I think that ball probably touched the turf before he had control of it, making it automatically incomplete regardless of what control he gathers afterward. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, BuffalOhio said: "Just the tip." You can’t consider it cheating. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I'm amazed at the # here claiming it hit the turf. My understanding is it can hit the turf if you have control of it and Milano did. To me at the very worst they should have reviewed it and it was a replay they had to watch closely. Not way that call is made in 5-10 seconds. And I say no it does not, Milano's hands are under it. Milano never had full control of the ball before the ball hit the ground. He did have his hands underneath the ball in the very end but the tip of the ball still hit the ground. Or do you still think the (tip of the) ball never hit the ground even with these snapshots? Edited October 31, 2022 by syhuang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 They got it right. The tip hit the ground. It was so close, though. Milano is a beast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 It was more a question as to why there wasn't at least a cursory review. This was not a obvious call (as opposed to the GB incompletion that was ruled a catch at first) and McD would have thrown a challenge flag and won. Had no effect on the game, just found it curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: The ball landed on his hands but kept on going and the tip hit the ground before he squeezed it. I was hopeful for one replay but the others showed it really clearly. I was amazed the refs made the right call at game speed. They were going back and forth for awhile. Maybe they had New York in their ear. But usually you see that called an INT and then they review it and overturn it. It is impressive they got it right without going to review. Live speed it looked good. 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: It was more a question as to why there wasn't at least a cursory review. This was not a obvious call (as opposed to the GB incompletion that was ruled a catch at first) and McD would have thrown a challenge flag and won. Had no effect on the game, just found it curious. I'm sure they had help from HQ and were told the tip hit the ground. No need to stop play and review it when you have clear evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The Chiefs didn't trip Josh Allen either, it was poor balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I agree. I thought for sure that it was really close and maybe bounced off his fingers instead of the turf, but I knew it couldn't have been a clean catch when I saw Milano's reaction. From Milano’s perspective, he said he thought his hands were under the ball, but New York must have thought otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: From Milano’s perspective, he said he thought his hands were under the ball, but New York must have thought otherwise. And so did I. That was the quickest call ever in the NFL.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: I'm amazed at the # here claiming it hit the turf. My understanding is it can hit the turf if you have control of it and Milano did. To me at the very worst they should have reviewed it and it was a replay they had to watch closely. Not way that call is made in 5-10 seconds. And I say no it does not, Milano's hands are under it. It 100% hit the ground, its not even open for debate. They showed the correct camera angle in a replay in game where it was clear as day. Nobody on the Bills even protested and nether did Milano. People on the internet taking a still image at a different moment in time isn't going to change this. Not sure why people on the internet are trying to manufacturer this into something, there is indisputable evidence of it hitting the ground a split second before Milano got his hands on the ball off the bounce. Honestly I dont know what I am more surprised by...there is even a thread about it in the first place after winning by 2 scores...or that its gone on 4 pages. Edited October 31, 2022 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: It 100% hit the ground, its not even open for debate. They showed the correct camera angle in a replay in game where it was clear as day. Nobody on the Bills even protested and nether did Milano. People on the internet taking a still image at a different moment in time isn't going to change this. Not sure why people on the internet are trying to manufacturer this into something, there is indisputable evidence of it hitting the ground a split second before Milano got his hands on the ball off the bounce. Honestly I dont know what I am more surprised by...there is even a thread about it in the first place after winning by 2 scores...or that its gone on 4 pages. Read the OP. It was not clear as day, and still is not. But carry on. It took the refs and upstairs 3 minutes confirm Poyer's interception versus Kansas City and here they didn't even give it a cursory look. That's all I said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: Read the OP. It was not clear as day, and still is not. But carry on. It took the refs and upstairs 3 minutes confirm Poyer's interception versus Kansas City and here they didn't even give it a cursory look. That's all I said. But it was clear, doesn't matter what the OP said. There is indisputable video evidence of it hitting ground. Not sure why you think otherwise or why you think the refs needed to talk about it "longer", it was clear as day. If you want to take bad angle views of it where you cant see it as clearly, then I can't help anyone doing that. Live in the game they showed a clear angle that saw the ball change direction from tip hitting ground before Milanos hands were on ball. Its 100% indisputable. I have no idea why other people are trying to use still images from bad angles to confuse the matter. Its a waste of time and energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Virgil said: Tip of the ball 100% hit the ground It’s always about the tip with you ain’t it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It hit the ground and bounced up after the fact and then he controlled the ball. There’s no logical argument for that being an INT even with the newer, more loose rules around defining a catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: But it was clear, doesn't matter what the OP said. There is indisputable video evidence of it hitting ground. Not sure why you think otherwise or why you think the refs needed to talk about it "longer", it was clear as day. If you want to take bad angle views of it where you cant see it as clearly, then I can't help anyone doing that. Live in the game they showed a clear angle that saw the ball change direction from tip hitting ground before Milanos hands were on ball. Its 100% indisputable. I have no idea why other people are trying to use still images from bad angles to confuse the matter. Its a waste of time and energy. I'm sorry it was not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I'm sorry it was not. Just because it wasn't clear to you, doesn't mean it wasn't clear. Between Milano's gloves and the paint on the field, a couple of the replay views were indeed unclear. But when they found the right piece of film, it was quickly apparent the nose of the ball hit the turf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Simon said: Just because it wasn't clear to you, doesn't mean it wasn't clear. Between Milano's gloves and the paint on the field, a couple of the replay views were indeed unclear. But when they found the right piece of film, it was quickly apparent the nose of the ball hit the turf. And they found it in 3 seconds? Come on didn't even look at it and because it was in the last two minutes they just went on to the next play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It hit the ground. It wasn't a catch. How is this on page 4? Please don't answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: It was more a question as to why there wasn't at least a cursory review. This was not a obvious call (as opposed to the GB incompletion that was ruled a catch at first) and McD would have thrown a challenge flag and won. Had no effect on the game, just found it curious. Replay showed it bounced. Why stop and do an offical replay it if its not going to be over ruled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, BuffalOhio said: "Just the tip." Promise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: And they found it in 3 seconds? Come on didn't even look at it and because it was in the last two minutes they just went on to the next play. Hogwash. The refs had a conference that was long enough that they didn't even wind the play clock immediately, probably because the back judge had thrown his marker. They had close to a minute to look at it and in that time they found the replay that showed it hitting the ground. End of story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.