Jamison Crowder, reported with broken ankle

[billsfan_34]

47 minutes ago, Steptide said:

He's been a non factor. Don't want injury on any player, but let's see what Shakir is capable of. 

Was playing solid special teams

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

we dont need OBJ. Did you see how Shakir toe tapped the sidelines? has anyone talked to you about the dudes speed 4.43 and reportedly he was sick that day? Digs is not getting any younger, we need to keep bringing up youth. Crowder has been a disappointment.

We need depth.  Shakir is a rookie, maybe he will be very good.  Youth? We need to WIN!!! OBJ is an elite player 

[Process]

1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said:

Was playing solid special teams

Oh yippee 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

Just now, billsfan_34 said:

Was playing solid special teams

I felt like he was a steady punt returner. Made the catch and run, or the fair catch, or let it go, when appropriate. 

I think this is where they'll miss him most. 

 

Just now, Process said:

Oh yippee 

A couple of muffed punts from now you won't be so sarcastic about special teams play. 

[PrimeTime101]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

We need depth.  Shakir is a rookie, maybe he will be very good.  Youth? We need to WIN!!! OBJ is an elite player 

if he is so elite, how come teams don't have him lined up for when he is over his injury? we dont need OBJ

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I will not be sad if we IR him. If the best you were getting out of him was steady ST work, I am willing to ride the Shakir for a while.

 

We are going to need the roster spot for Tre or a new safety, or a #2/3 WR

[Bruffalo]

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

if he is so elite, how come teams don't have him lined up for when he is over his injury? we dont need OBJ

He's a FA, we have no idea what teams have approached him with offers. 

[blacklabel]

Shakir had a couple nice plays yesterday. It'll take some time to fully acclimate him in with the starters but I think he'll be alright. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

if he is so elite, how come teams don't have him lined up for when he is over his injury? we dont need OBJ

 

You do realize that he is a free agent, right? He has the luxury of maximizing his market value. He's playing for his next contract, and playing half of the season on a dud team is not going to get him a big money offer.

[Heels20X6]

1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

if he is so elite, how come teams don't have him lined up for when he is over his injury? we dont need OBJ

I mean, it's been reported that there are five teams interested in him (including the Packers and Patriots) with the Rams being the frontrunner.  He proved last year that he can come in as an effective mercenary and not rock the boat on an established team.  

 

If by the time he's healthy we still have the same injury issues at WR, the team would be stupid to not reach out to him and gage his interest.

[CountDorkula]

8 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

we dont need OBJ. Did you see how Shakir toe tapped the sidelines? has anyone talked to you about the dudes speed 4.43 and reportedly he was sick that day? Digs is not getting any younger, we need to keep bringing up youth. Crowder has been a disappointment.

The Bills currently as of today have TWO heathy WR's on the roster.

 

They need more than Shakir. 

[Don Otreply]

49 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

Sucks for Crowder but its an opportunity for someone else.

OBJ realistically in play potentially now?

OBJ isn’t playing anywhere for at least two months, it’s a next man up situation, PS call up time. 

[BuffaloBill]

OBJ  is not healthy

OBJ is not a slot receiver

OBJ will command a contract that the Bills will struggle mightily to fit within their cap.

 

The Bills are not going to sign OBJ - Shakir is the next man up

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, BuffaloBill said:

OBJ  is not healthy

OBJ is not a slot receiver

OBJ will command a contract that the Bills will struggle mightily to fit within their cap.

 

The Bills are not going to sign OBJ - Shakir is the next man up

It may be fun to visit this again in a month 

[FilthyBeast]

All of a sudden the Bills WR situation has went from bad to worse especially since Davis is not healthy yet either.

 

Going to find out a lot about these young guys pretty quick, including James Cook who is going to have to step up and play a bigger role in this offense soon.

[Warriorspikes51]

OBJ replied to Sauce Gardner yesterday joking with him that he'll sign the ball when OBJ is the first player to score a TD on him.

This likely means OBJ plans on playing against the Jets this season 

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

if he is so elite, how come teams don't have him lined up for when he is over his injury? we dont need OBJ

How do you know teams don’t have him lined up for when he’s over the injury?  
 

We may need OBj.  The season isn’t over and more injuries likely to occur.  Right now, I think we’ll be ok, but if Gabe doesn’t improve. If shakir gets hurt.  If Diggs gets hurt.  If mckenzie gets re-concussed.  We may need him

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, NewEra said:

How do you know teams don’t have him lined up for when he’s over the injury?  
 

We may need OBj.  The season isn’t over and more injuries likely to occur.  Right now, I think we’ll be ok, but if Gabe doesn’t improve. If shakir gets hurt.  If Diggs gets hurt.  If mckenzie gets re-concussed.  We may need him

 

THIS.  What happens if Diggs (God forbid!!!) were to get injured down the stretch....we'd be in trouble. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

The Bills currently as of today have TWO heathy WR's on the roster.

 

They need more than Shakir. 

 

The way I see the OBJ situation is this: the man is an undoubted talent. There is also a reputation of being a headcase/diva. The most common way to get over that reputation is to sign on with a winner on a quick contract, show what you can do, keep your head down and mouth shut. And that's what he did with the Rams...only to be injured at the worst possible time.

 

But there's no reason to undo the formula. It makes too much sense to wait down the stretch for all sides. Teams want to make sure they are really competing for something AND have a need at the position. OBJ wants to make sure he picks a winner. 

[Lost]

5 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

The Bills currently as of today have TWO heathy WR's on the roster.

 

They need more than Shakir. 

This ^^

 

It would be one thing if we had a dynamic TE that could get separation or make consistent contested catches.   Knox has been underwhelming since his contract renewal.  That and no run game.  This team may be good enough to get us into the playoffs but I have doubts as to whether we can take out teams like KC in January.  They just have more tools right now.  

[Don Otreply]

42 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

He is about to be imprisoned in the middle east for the rest of his life.

One can only hope…, 

[Process]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

THIS.  What happens if Diggs (God forbid!!!) were to get injured down the stretch....we'd be in trouble. 

The time to address this was the off-season. 

 

Going into the season being one injury away from Kumerow seeing 75% of snaps was idiotic.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Process said:

The time to address this was the off-season. 

 

Going into the season being one injury away from Kumerow seeing 75% of snaps was idiotic.

They wanted Christian Kirk but the Jaguars offered wayy more $$$

[Lost]

Just now, Process said:

The time to address this was the off-season. 

 

Going into the season being one injury away from Kumerow seeing 75% of snaps was idiotic.

 

Right. 

 

I'm still baffled by the Cook and Bernard picks this offseason.   There were still WRs out there that looked good.

[Ralonzo]

57 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Once this kid gets his feet wet he'll be better than Crowder. What's with Gabe? An ankle injury has nothing to do with dropped passes. Is it time to take a look at Hodgins?

 

Davis' bad wheel means he's not able to run routes at peak level and does not get the separation he had been. Hodgins doesn't have the wheels to get separation to begin with, but where Davis has historically had great hands, Hodgins has elite hands and high-pointing ability. He's just not a thick body type to fight through contact like a Mike Evans nor can he open up with speed like the more angular types like Ceedee Lamb. That's why he's on the PS. If the Bills can find a way to use his stregths as a Big Slot as we saw in preseason he can be productive, I think. 

 

Shakir is the first thought to replace Crowder in the slot and should get the first crack at it, but a platoon of quick & shifty, and then big & reliable could work pretty well, rather than 3 very similar guys in Crowder McKenzie and Shakir operating from the same point.

[ngbills]

I feel like we will need a legit threat come playoff time. Davis may be hampered all season. And McK is more of a gadget guy and at best a slot than a #2. So if teams can take away Diggs we will struggle. OBJ is the best non-trade option. But we should be active at the trade deadline for some help. WR's are often deadline trade options. 

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, Lost said:

 

Right. 

 

I'm still baffled by the Cook and Bernard picks this offseason.   There were still WRs out there that looked good.

 

I'm not baffled by Cook, Beane thought he had McKissic for the role but got punked by the Comanches. He reached for a substitute. I wonder about taking a better linebacker in the second, and not having to reach for one in the 3rd, and eschewing RB altogether would have led to a better roster since Blackshear looked like he earned the roster spot that Cook was gifted.

[CountDorkula]

8 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

 

The way I see the OBJ situation is this: the man is an undoubted talent. There is also a reputation of being a headcase/diva. The most common way to get over that reputation is to sign on with a winner on a quick contract, show what you can do, keep your head down and mouth shut. And that's what he did with the Rams...only to be injured at the worst possible time.

 

But there's no reason to undo the formula. It makes too much sense to wait down the stretch for all sides. Teams want to make sure they are really competing for something AND have a need at the position. OBJ wants to make sure he picks a winner. 

Its not just OBJ, id check on Fuller, Sanu, Hilton, Humphries.

 

yea, all injury issues but talented nonetheless. 

[ngbills]

20 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

if he is so elite, how come teams don't have him lined up for when he is over his injury? we dont need OBJ

He will go to a winner and is waiting for his best option. You can bank on him going to one of the playoff teams. He has nothing to gain going to the highest bidder if its not a good spot for him. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

[Bob in STL]

I don't like seeing vets out for extended times although I was not happy with Crowder yesterday, way too many drops.  Maybe he could have been a solid vet as the seasons goes on.   Definitely a big drop from Cole Beasley as a slot receiver.  

 

He may be missed more as a punt returner.  

[mannc]

1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said:

Hodgins or Austin should be getting a call soon

Did Hodgins make it onto the practice squad?

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Bob in STL said:

I don't like seeing vets out for extended times although I was not happy with Crowder yesterday, way too many drops.  Maybe he could have been a solid vet as the seasons goes on.   Definitely a big drop from Cole Beasley as a slot receiver.  

 

He may be missed more as a punt returner.  

 

That's where I am.  The Bills always had the luxury of Mr Hyde as their "break glass in emergency" PR guy

McKenzie is an Alka-Selzer moment waiting to happen as a PR guy.

[Bob in STL]

56 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

They could use Cook in a slot receiver role.

Cook better start learning his RB position first and take advantage of opportunities.  

 

There is a reason the coaches are not playing him.  With McDermott you have to earn it in practice.  

[billsbackto81]

37 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

He makes plays He is on the practice squad every year because he can’t play special teams But Kumerow is out to so who cares

 

35 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said:

He makes plays in preseason. He makes a lot of contested catches that look good but it’s because he’s not getting separation. I’m not saying we can’t call him up and give him a shot but there’s reasons why he’s hasn’t been active

Don't know if Hodgins is the answer but I do believe he deserves a shot and the Pitt game would be a good opportunity considering we're favored by 14.

[Rico]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said:

Injury bug has been brutal this year. crowder to IR for sure. 

Maybe with a settlement. Anyways, highly unlikely he’s back next year.

[marck]

Is it time to kick the tires on, and I can’t believe I’m saying this but here goes

 

Will Fuller

[Forward Progress]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

Shakir slides into his role pretty easily. 

... and might be an upgrade

[billsbackto81]

3 minutes ago, marck said:

Is it time to kick the tires on, and I can’t believe I’m saying this but here goes

 

Will Fuller

Always injured, mentally compromised and has publicly stated he doesn't like cold weather cities.

Pass.

[TheBrownBear]

15 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Right. 

 

I'm still baffled by the Cook and Bernard picks this offseason.   There were still WRs out there that looked good.

Well, we did get one and his name is Khalil Shakir.  I think we were fine at wideout until the injury bug hit us.

 

The Cook pick looks baffling now, but we were all calling for a hybrid/3rd down back leading up to the draft.  It's early, but we might have just drafted the wrong guy.

 

And I'm okay with the Bernard pick.  He flashed in preseason and I suspect he's going to be a fan favorite down the road. He's just buried behind Edmunds and Milano at the moment.  As we've seen this year, injuries occur pretty frequently in this league and we know Milano has been nicked up and missed plenty of time in prior seasons.  As much as I hate to say it, it's likely just a matter of time before Bernard is seeing a couple of starts at LB.