Billz4ever Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Weekly occurrence!! Cook fumbled against LA, he got benched. Singletary coughs it up today, keeps playing. Let's not act like Cook has gotten a fair shake so far and anyone trying to claim he sucks based on a couple touches each game 4 games into the season doesn't know what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 All one needs to do in spot duty is to (1) not fumble, and (2) to catch a single pass. 2nd rounder or not, you play yourself into games, our you play yourself out of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: No……based on the first 4 weeks of the season. Moss is just as careless with ball……he’s been benched in the past because of it. Absolutely ridiculous to think anyone can accurately critique Cook 4 games in with few amount of touches he's had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 He hardly plays so I can’t make a determination on him. I liked him as a prospect at GA. He needs to play more I’m guessing it’s his ability to pickup blitzes and blocks that makes his lack of playing time noticeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 They should be splitting him out wide more and let him run some routes. If anything make them account for his speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 He's a rook and he needs to take advantage of his opportunities. You need to earn it out there and he hasn't yet. A few more games like this and I'll begin to wonder about him. Worry? That's for losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: Absolutely ridiculous to think anyone can accurately critique Cook 4 games in with few amount of touches he's had. He’s a RB……they don’t take long to develop. With the position he plays he’s definitely open for critiquing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Shakir played his first NFL regular season game today and he was not shaky at all. Agree on Cook, we need to see more of him before we judge him. He played in his first regular season game against Tennessee and had 2 targets and 0 catches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Cook fumbled against LA, he got benched. Singletary coughs it up today, keeps playing. Let's not act like Cook has gotten a fair shake so far and anyone trying to claim he sucks based on a couple touches each game 4 games into the season doesn't know what they're talking about. Yes, but Singletary is the vet. Plus this team is supposed to be SB bound, so Cook isn't going to get a lot of leeway. Unless he's lights out going into games, he's going to get what he gets right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: He will come around. R-E-L-A-X. Based on what, specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Cook fumbled against LA, he got benched. Singletary coughs it up today, keeps playing. Let's not act like Cook has gotten a fair shake so far and anyone trying to claim he sucks based on a couple touches each game 4 games into the season doesn't know what they're talking about. Heeeyy... I was a EJ Manuel fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 52 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Everyone need to understand Cook was a home run swing because the bench is loaded. he might be a miss. And they still have a great roster Not sure if he's a miss yet but at this point he's definitely a foul ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Beast said: He played in his first regular season game against Tennessee and had 2 targets and 0 catches. Right, and missed a block in that game that killed drive and got Allen hammered. Too early to tell on both of them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 He gon be the dude next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: He’s a RB……they don’t take long to develop. With the position he plays he’s definitely open for critiquing. LMAO. You actually have to get a real chance to play to accurately critique a player. If you call 1 target today a real chance, I don't know what to tell you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Let’s worry about the rookie/3rd guy on the RB depth chart. This is not the Kobe beef of threads…. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said: Yes, but Singletary is the vet. Plus this team is supposed to be SB bound, so Cook isn't going to get a lot of leeway. Unless he's lights out going into games, he's going to get what he gets right now. So if he's not going to get some real playing time, how is it people think they can accurately critique him, especially when this team's running game is near non-existent anyway and these vets you speak of aren't doing much of anything either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: So if he's not going to get some real playing time, how is it people think they can accurately critique him, especially when this team's running game is near non-existent anyway and these vets you speak of aren't doing much of anything either? If Sing fumbles, I think that he will regroup. If Cook fumbles then it's a crapshoot. I know that I'm not giving the rook a chance, and I own that. Still, if you get a chance to do the little things in a game, I don't know, like catching a single pass, then do that. If you get a chance to have a carry, don't fumble. If you do those things then, as a rookie, on a comparably stacked team, you will get more chances. Edited October 3, 2022 by TheCockSportif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I have a little observation about Cook from warmups today. I was in the front row by the Bills endzone where they were doing their pregame stuff. Cook and McKenzie came out around 12:25 with the kickers. McKenzie was shagging punts and kickoffs. Cook was milling around, doing nothing. Just chill. He watched a practice kickoff land right at his feet, he made no attempt to catch it. Mckenzie sorta looked at cook with his hands up like “dude, cmon, make an effort”. I commented to my son, look at this guy Cook, he’s just slouching around making no effort to catch a practice punt or a KO. I’m not even sure why he came out early. He talks to no one, he shows zero energy or juice. When he finally gets the ball in a game he drops it. I just don’t see a reason why he’s on the active roster right now. I’m a firm believer you play how you practice. and he should’ve been handling the football at every opportunity in warm ups. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: So if he's not going to get some real playing time, how is it people think they can accurately critique him, especially when this team's running game is near non-existent anyway and these vets you speak of aren't doing much of anything either? Cook needs to make the most of his opportunities!! He's not in Georgia anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Based on what, specifically? Based on we don’t know yet The optimist will think he will be able to do what he did in college the pessimist will think that he wont Edited October 3, 2022 by John from Riverside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: I have a little observation about Cook from warmups today. I was in the front row by the Bills endzone where they were doing their pregame stuff. Cook and McKenzie came out around 12:25 with the kickers. McKenzie was shagging punts and kickoffs. Cook was milling around, doing nothing. Just chill. He watched a practice kickoff land right at his feet, he made no attempt to catch it. Mckenzie sorta looked at cook with his hands up like “dude, cmon, make an effort”. I commented to my son, look at this guy Cook, he’s just slouching around making no effort to catch a practice punt or a KO. I’m not even sure why he came out early. He talks to no one, he shows zero energy or juice. When he finally gets the ball in a game he drops it. I just don’t see a reason why he’s on the active roster right now. I’m a firm believer you play how you practice. and he should’ve been handling the football at every opportunity in warm ups. Wow that speaks volumes. I will try to make it early into the stadium next week and keep an eye on him during warm ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Way too early. Need to stop using moss and start using cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, zow2 said: I have a little observation about Cook from warmups today. I was in the front row by the Bills endzone where they were doing their pregame stuff. Cook and McKenzie came out around 12:25 with the kickers. McKenzie was shagging punts and kickoffs. Cook was milling around, doing nothing. Just chill. He watched a practice kickoff land right at his feet, he made no attempt to catch it. Mckenzie sorta looked at cook with his hands up like “dude, cmon, make an effort”. I commented to my son, look at this guy Cook, he’s just slouching around making no effort to catch a practice punt or a KO. I’m not even sure why he came out early. He talks to no one, he shows zero energy or juice. When he finally gets the ball in a game he drops it. I just don’t see a reason why he’s on the active roster right now. I’m a firm believer you play how you practice. and he should’ve been handling the football at every opportunity in warm ups. That is absolutely troubling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No it's not too early. He's a RB. If they are good or even decent there is zero learning curve. You should never sign a RB to a second contract. Meaning when you draft them you do it knowing you are only getting 4 years. Meaning they better produce immediately. It was a terrible pick when we made it and if the longer he goes without making an impact the worse it gets. I do place some blame on McClappy. They haven't given him a chance to get in any sort of rhythm. They'd rather watch Moss run into the behinds of our o lineman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Cook stats (link below): 1. Rams: 1 attempt - fumble 2. Titans: 11 attempts 53 yds (garbage time) 3. Miami: 1 attempt 3 yds. 4 catches 37 yds 4. Ravens: 1 pass attempt dropped. Not a lot of opportunities, but got to do more w/ opportunities he gets. Very disappointing for a 2nd round pick. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4379399/james-cook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, ScottLaw said: A 2nd round pick on a RB is typically always a bad investment… Always 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: A 2nd round pick on a RB is typically always a bad investment… ?? Travis Henry, DeShaun Foster, Clinton Portis, MJD, Chris Henry, Ray Rice, Matt Forte, LeSean McCoy, Leveon Bell, Gio Bernard, Derrick Henry, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor.... Edited October 3, 2022 by TailgateChef Change 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Two words. Alexander Nylander. Seriously, it's early but it would be nice if he had shown something at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: A 2nd round pick on a RB is typically always a bad investment… No, not really. Bills have gotten a few good ones, as has the rest of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Process said: No it's not too early. He's a RB. If they are good or even decent there is zero learning curve. You should never sign a RB to a second contract. Meaning when you draft them you do it knowing you are only getting 4 years. Meaning they better produce immediately. It was a terrible pick when we made it and if the longer he goes without making an impact the worse it gets. I do place some blame on McClappy. They haven't given him a chance to get in any sort of rhythm. They'd rather watch Moss run into the behinds of our o lineman. There Is absolutely a learning curve to being an NFL running back Learning protections is one of the hardest things to do in football… All the nuances If you can’t protect the quarterback you’re not getting on the field That is the biggest learning curve for all young running backs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, zow2 said: I have a little observation about Cook from warmups today. I was in the front row by the Bills endzone where they were doing their pregame stuff. Cook and McKenzie came out around 12:25 with the kickers. McKenzie was shagging punts and kickoffs. Cook was milling around, doing nothing. Just chill. He watched a practice kickoff land right at his feet, he made no attempt to catch it. Mckenzie sorta looked at cook with his hands up like “dude, cmon, make an effort”. I commented to my son, look at this guy Cook, he’s just slouching around making no effort to catch a practice punt or a KO. I’m not even sure why he came out early. He talks to no one, he shows zero energy or juice. When he finally gets the ball in a game he drops it. I just don’t see a reason why he’s on the active roster right now. I’m a firm believer you play how you practice. and he should’ve been handling the football at every opportunity in warm ups. To hear that is definitely concerning. However, count me among those who feel like it's still way too early to label him a bust, or give up on him. Yes, his fumble game one was a costly one, and his drop today was as well. I feel like had he made that catch he could've gained some serious yardage. But let's be honest, it's pretty obvious from the few touches he HAS gotten, he's shown a real burst of speed, that extra gear that both Motor AND Moss lack, which is reason for excitement. I don't doubt the fumble and the drop may have shaken his confidence, but I believe that once the game slows down for him, and 2)the coaches give him more touches, that he still has the potential to be our RB1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There Is absolutely a learning curve to being an NFL running back Learning protections is one of the hardest things to do in football… All the nuances If you can’t protect the quarterback you’re not getting on the field That is the biggest learning curve for all young running backs That's not what he was talking about IMO. He was saying you can see what the kids have immediately. So far Cook has shown nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Cook fumbled against LA, he got benched. Singletary coughs it up today, keeps playing. Let's not act like Cook has gotten a fair shake so far and anyone trying to claim he sucks based on a couple touches each game 4 games into the season doesn't know what they're talking about. How do you know if McDermott and company are giving Cook "a fair shake"..........are you at practice and seeing if he is doing his job? The mother hen fans are ridiculous..........it's OK that he needs to earn playing time in small sample sizes. 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There Is absolutely a learning curve to being an NFL running back Learning protections is one of the hardest things to do in football… All the nuances If you can’t protect the quarterback you’re not getting on the field That is the biggest learning curve for all young running backs And occasionally some players don't have the cognitive function to ever learn..........see CJ Spiller. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just give me Singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: A 2nd round pick on a RB is typically always a bad investment… Unless it’s JK Dobbins, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I think it's fair to be worried, but not fair to label him a bust yet. Drafting O-Line in that spot would've been significantly wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: That's not what he was talking about IMO. He was saying you can see what the kids have immediately. So far Cook has shown nothing. He hasn’t been on the field enough to get into a groove to show anything In week two in limited time he had 11 for 53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, zow2 said: I have a little observation about Cook from warmups today. I was in the front row by the Bills endzone where they were doing their pregame stuff. Cook and McKenzie came out around 12:25 with the kickers. McKenzie was shagging punts and kickoffs. Cook was milling around, doing nothing. Just chill. He watched a practice kickoff land right at his feet, he made no attempt to catch it. Mckenzie sorta looked at cook with his hands up like “dude, cmon, make an effort”. I commented to my son, look at this guy Cook, he’s just slouching around making no effort to catch a practice punt or a KO. I’m not even sure why he came out early. He talks to no one, he shows zero energy or juice. When he finally gets the ball in a game he drops it. I just don’t see a reason why he’s on the active roster right now. I’m a firm believer you play how you practice. and he should’ve been handling the football at every opportunity in warm ups. interesting observation. what i've seen of him gives me the impression he's not very motivated. his affect is strange. we know he's not very smart based on his abysmal wonderlic score. now you're giving some evidence of poor work ethic. not a good combination. many here are saying he's not getting enough touches. I expect that if the coaches were impressed with what he's shown in practices, preseason and limited regular season action, he'd be out there much more. It's not like we have a stable of awesome backs for him to compete for playing time with. It's early but so far, I've got to believe the coaching staff is disappointed. Edited October 3, 2022 by redtail hawk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beast said: He played in his first regular season game against Tennessee and had 2 targets and 0 catches. I check that and you are correct. I didn't see him in the Titans game. Probably partying too much during that game. 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: Cook fumbled against LA, he got benched. Singletary coughs it up today, keeps playing. Let's not act like Cook has gotten a fair shake so far and anyone trying to claim he sucks based on a couple touches each game 4 games into the season doesn't know what they're talking about. Singletary has earned the respect not to be bench for fumble/drop. He had a good game. Maybe Cook fumbles in practice or maybe the coaches don't like the way he prepares? He is definitely getting the rookie treatment from the coaches. I want him to get more chances too. Edited October 3, 2022 by Bob in STL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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