Richard Noggin Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Micheal Smith on the post-game Amazon broadcast is bringing attention to what everyone knows: this was badly mishandled, everyone knows it, and it needs to be addressed. Miami is showing to be the MOST unethical organization in the league now as a demonstrable pattern. That owner has to go. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The post game show hosts are absolutely torching the Dolphins organization right now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: The post game show hosts are absolutely torching the Dolphins organization right now. Tgonz aint. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Ramza86 said: Tgonz aint. lol Yea, he was really lame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Does Tua have a charity? Maybe we should try to shine a light on what's obviously an awful lapse in judgement on Miamis end. I just started a thread to let people know about bis charity. Just donated $17 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Rick 'r Mortis said: Yea, he was really lame. The voice of the corporate status quo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Sherman said what we were all thinking. Made him come back in Sunday because it was a big game. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said: The voice of the corporate status quo I thought he was going to go full on Richard Sherman, he wanted to speak so badly. Then he says "I just don't know how to feel about it all" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Does anyone else (think I know the answer) think Tua is simply NOT an NFL QB? He has some skills, sure, but physically he is unsafe out there. Just unable to protect himself enough to withstand the game's violence. I've never seen a guy get ragdolled by every defender who really gets their hands on him. Almost every season, since college. Would have better for him to get knocked out of last week's game, which we all know is what actually happened in the alternate reality where the NFL follows its own very important protocols. Trent Edwards. A 9ers QB I can't remember before Garcia I think. Tommy Maddox. David carr. I can think of a few 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: Trent Edwards. A 9ers QB I can't remember before Garcia I think. Tommy Maddox. David carr. I can think of a few Tyrod Taylor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Steve young used to get brutalized. So did Favre. I remember Cunningham getting smoked a bunch. Grogan got lit up several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I think this will mostly be swept under the rug. It’ll last a news cycle or so. The league will review procedures and nothing will probably come of it. Hopefully Tua will recover and be ok. I still believe the only one possibly in trouble or scapegoated is whoever the independent neurologist was at the Bills game who cleared him to return. Their coach, while we can question his decision probably can’t face any actual discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The other don't understand Dolphins had days to prepare for this game (Bengals). Shouldn't they check for sure if he didn't had a concussion. (thinking they possibly knew). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Local Colorado springs newscaster/bills fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hsker4life Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Monty98 said: Yes and no, second impact syndrome affects people under a certain age, but once they are 23/24 it seems to not be the same factor. REGARDLESS, there's a lot of questions to be answered right now and prayers for a kid that shouldn't have been put in that position Does Miami claiming it was a back injury change any of the protocols? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 If it was a back injury why didn’t Tua just go to the tent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Herc11 said: The worse part is he just hit his head in the same manner and his brain suffered a second injury on top of a pre-existing brain contusion. Its going to be a long time until he is able to clear protocol. So... 60 minutes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Local Colorado springs newscaster/bills fan Rob Quirk used to come out to the Dublin House to watch Bills games back in the 90's super bowl runs with us. I sat next to his brother on a flight from CHI to BUF one time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think this will mostly be swept under the rug. It’ll last a news cycle or so. The league will review procedures and nothing will probably come of it. Hopefully Tua will recover and be ok. I still believe the only one possibly in trouble or scapegoated is whoever the independent neurologist was at the Bills game who cleared him to return. Their coach, while we can question his decision probably can’t face any actual discipline. The Fins will get a big fine and internal practices will be adjusted but I can't see much more than that sadly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beast said: If it was a back injury why didn’t Tua just go to the tent? My guess, regardless of the injury, was there were only 2 minutes or less left in the half so they just took him to the locker room. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Good news .. the Miami doctors just checked out Tua and determined that he has a sprained pinky finger. He should be good to go next week. Note sarcasm 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Just now, billsfan89 said: The Fins will get a big fine and internal practices will be adjusted but I can't see much more than that sadly. I don’t see really how Miami would be held responsible. If an independent neurologist cleared him last week that’s who is on the hook here imo. I mean Miami could have held him out of practice or not played him tonight. But if he passed the protocol there’s not really any liability on their part. Ethics maybe should be questioned but can’t really punish them for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hsker4life said: Does Miami claiming it was a back injury change any of the protocols? With everything they’ve put out about the “no-go” criteria, I think the only way he could have been cleared to return is if he never actually entered the concussion protocol in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see really how Miami would be held responsible. If an independent neurologist cleared him last week that’s who is on the hook here imo. I mean Miami could have held him out of practice or not played him tonight. But if he passed the protocol there’s not really any liability on their part. Ethics maybe should be questioned but can’t really punish them for that. I agree to an extent but if the team did anything to shy away from an evaluation by the independent neurologist then that warrants a fine and an adjustment of the policy possibly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I agree to an extent but if the team did anything to shy away from an evaluation by the independent neurologist then that warrants a fine and an adjustment of the policy possibly. Zero chance the league would ever allow that information to hit the public. They have teams of people working on damage control of this right now. They will squash this story with a quickness. And if Tua somehow escapes this at full health it’ll blow over even quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Zero chance the league would ever allow that information to hit the public. They have teams of people working on damage control of this right now. They will squash this story with a quickness. And if Tua somehow escapes this at full health it’ll blow over even quicker. So in 10 days when Tua gets lightly tackled again and ends up like again, we can look forward to it being explained as actually being the result of head lice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t see really how Miami would be held responsible. If an independent neurologist cleared him last week that’s who is on the hook here imo. I mean Miami could have held him out of practice or not played him tonight. But if he passed the protocol there’s not really any liability on their part. Ethics maybe should be questioned but can’t really punish them for that. From the article linked above: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/29/demaurice-smith-vows-to-pursue-every-legal-option-regarding-the-handling-of-tua-tagovailoa-on-sunday/ Quote "Here’s the issue, as I explained it both on Football Night in America and throughout the week, on PFT Live and in this outlet. If a player shows “gross motor instability,” he may continue only if the team physician and the Unaffiliated Neurotrauma Consultant conclude that the instability was not neurologically caused. I posed to the league — twice — on Sunday a very simple question. How did the team physician and the UNC conclude that the gross motor instability exhibited by Tua was not neurological? Did they take Tua’s word for it that it was a back injury? Did they carefully study the know-it-when-you-see-it video that the wobbling and wooziness was not the result of a head injury? Did they do something else? Those questions have yet to be answered. Presumably, they’ll be answered as part of the investigation that was initiated by the NFLPA. They need to be." So, if the doctors are found to have violated protocol, it would be appropriate for all plays involving Tua after he went out just before halftime for the Buffalo game be disqualified. Hence, the Bills should be awarded a 19-14 win. It's never going to happen, but just saying. Edited September 30, 2022 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Monkey Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 https://twitter.com/jdavhill/status/1575667393551966209?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1575667393551966209|twgr^f686a68660c01949d477b9203944c9291e403dd1|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Yard Monkey said: https://twitter.com/jdavhill/status/1575667393551966209?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1575667393551966209|twgr^f686a68660c01949d477b9203944c9291e403dd1|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2F Here's your tweet above: Just click on the date of the tweet below the actual tweet to get the embedded link to post here. Edited September 30, 2022 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, chongli said: So, if the doctors are found to have violated protocol, it would be appropriate for all plays involving Tua after he went out just before halftime for that game be disqualified. Hence, the Bills should be awarded a 19-14 win. It's never going to happen, but just saying. I think that’s a little unrealistic. But I’m just a guy sitting on the couch drinking Pepsi 😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuscott16 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Local Colorado springs newscaster/bills fan I live in the Springs also and had no idea he is a Bills fan. That's awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 One thing I'm not sure was picked up on: Miami activated their 3rd QB for this game owing to Tua's being less than hale and hearty after Sunday. Rare to have 3 QBs active on game day. Maybe nothing, maybe they knew more than they let on. Who can say? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Look what this doc said BEFORE and after the game: https://www.al.com/nfl/2022/09/neuroscientist-attacks-dolphins-online-after-tua-tagovailoa-injury-you-guys-should-go-to-jail.html "...Now, Nowinski, a neuroscientist and co-founder and CEO of the Concussion Legacy Foundation, says the Miami Dolphins “should go to jail for letting him play five days after an obvious concussion you covered up. If he dies from second-impact syndrome, I’m pushing for murder charges.” ..." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Look what this doc said BEFORE and after the game: https://www.al.com/nfl/2022/09/neuroscientist-attacks-dolphins-online-after-tua-tagovailoa-injury-you-guys-should-go-to-jail.html "...Now, Nowinski, a neuroscientist and co-founder and CEO of the Concussion Legacy Foundation, says the Miami Dolphins “should go to jail for letting him play five days after an obvious concussion you covered up. If he dies from second-impact syndrome, I’m pushing for murder charges.” ..." I get that it could happen...and one time would be too many... but has any football player ever died from concussions? The concussion protocol is a relatively new thing and I don't recall anyone every dying before. It's more about long term health. Tua should take a long break, and I'm not just saying that as a Bills fan, he has his whole life to think about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I get that it could happen...and one time would be too many... but has any football player ever died from concussions? The concussion protocol is a relatively new thing and I don't recall anyone every dying before. It's more about long term health. Tua should take a long break, and I'm not just saying that as a Bills fan, he has his whole life to think about. Yeah... But Natasha Richardson bumped her head and died. Yeah, football players wear helmets, that helps... But 4 days after this: His hands are doing the same thing they did last night! Sunday: 4 Days later on Thursday: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah... But Natasha Richardson bumped her head and died. Yeah, football players wear helmets, that helps... But 4 days after this: His hands are doing the same thing they did last night! after seeing this photo, it was definitely a back problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 It's weird how in the UFC it's too easy. The ref sees the player KO'd or they wobble on their own and fall down = fight over. You'd think it would be similarly simple for NFL players.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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