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Most talented player in Bills franchise history?


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IMO, the top 3 has to be OJ Simpson, Bruce Smith, and Josh Allen, in whatever order you choose.

 

Although he hasn’t officially played a game with the Bills yet, Von Miller has to be pretty high on that list as well.

 

Pretty cool to think that the Bills might have two of the most talented players in franchise history playing at the same time!! 

 

What at are your thoughts?

 

How would you rank them, and who else would you put in your Top 5??

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OJ & Bruce we’re 1st overall picks. Allen* ‘dropping’ to 7th overall will never be forgiven by the fans whose team didn’t select him. The Juice was a phenom, though he played with 2 HOF Guards, brilliant WRs and a very effective HC & QB. Bruce was literally surrounded by HOFers -including his coach & was excellent vs the run. But he was significantly more productive as a pass rusher because of the immense talent on his offenses. The Unicorn* -remember, your read that here 1st- still has no clue how great he can be as he’s personally aced every pressure situation he’s faced to date. Barring injury, he’s a lock as most talented ever. But remember, so was Tom Sestak, Robert James & Jerry Butler, all of whom only enjoyed a few great seasons before injuries killed their careers. As to the OP’s request for my Top 5, I’ll add Butch Byrd and Cookie Gilcrest. Byrd was an enigma, built like a LB and ferocious. His 40 career INTs will likely never be topped. Cookie and Terrell Owens we’re also enigmas  whose character quirks had them playing for multiple teams, wearing out their welcome with each stop while being eye-poppingly incredible players.

Honorable mention: Cornelius Bennett

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Those 3 are the correct answer. I’m not sure that it’s even a debate other than the order you’d put them in. TO would be next but he was only here a year and it was towards the end. 
 

The next most physically talented player on those Super Bowl teams was Bennett. He wasn’t the next best player but he was the next most gifted. 

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I'm struggling with my Top Five.  But I'd put OJ #1.   I think it's crazy that some RB rankings have him #8 or #13 or some other lowly grade.  Either the author focused on career stats or took away points for OJ being evil.  But in his prime, he was other-worldly.  

 

Bruce would be my #2.   After that things get murky.

 

But I do believe Josh is scary good.  Brady's presnap reads are uncanny and he throws the ball amazing consistency.  But Allen makes plays with both his legs and his arm that make you think, "Wow!"  

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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Most athletically talented?

 

1.  OJ

2.  Bruce

3.  Cookie

4.  Thurman

5.  Allen 


Yep, OJ is a disgusting human being, but probably one of the top 3 best RB’s of all time based on the rules back in the 70’s.  The whole defense knew he 2as going to get the ball early and often and he still beat the pants off a lot of guys.

 

Cookie is before my time, but my dad raved about his skills.  I want to say Allen and will in a few years.  I firmly believe he will be the best Bill of all time when he finally retires.

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I saw Cookie Play, turned pro in Canada out of high school, after Paul Brown cost him his college eligibility, Played both ways in Canada (MLB on D) and actually was the Bills kicker in '62.  A man among boys at the time, same size as the defensive lineman. 

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7 hours ago, Special K said:

IMO, the top 3 has to be OJ Simpson, Bruce Smith, and Josh Allen, in whatever order you choose.

 

Although he hasn’t officially played a game with the Bills yet, Von Miller has to be pretty high on that list as well.

 

Pretty cool to think that the Bills might have two of the most talented players in franchise history playing at the same time!! 

 

What at are your thoughts?

 

How would you rank them, and who else would you put in your Top 5??

Josh Allen Josh Allen Josh Allen

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33 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


Yep, OJ is a disgusting human being, but probably one of the top 3 best RB’s of all time based on the rules back in the 70’s.  The whole defense knew he 2as going to get the ball early and often and he still beat the pants off a lot of guys.

 

Cookie is before my time, but my dad raved about his skills.  I want to say Allen and will in a few years.  I firmly believe he will be the best 🐐 of all time when he finally retires.

FIFY!!:wub:

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For those of you hesitant to put Allen on there, “because it’s too early” you are missing the question. The question is “the most physically gifted Bills ever.” Josh Allen, may be, the most physically gifted person to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s inarguably on the list. 
 

If the question was, “who are the 5 greatest Bills ever” I’m fine with no Allen. I see a lot of Thurman on here and I think people are using those 2 questions interchangeably. I love Thurman. He is one of the 5 greatest Bills ever. He’s not one of the 5 most physically gifted. 

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On 9/3/2022 at 8:18 AM, butch rolle said:

If you want to define talent as pure athletic potential, Mario Williams has to be on that list.

 

On 9/3/2022 at 8:26 AM, Charles Romes said:

Lynch will still make the Hall but if drafted into a better situation would have been known as an all time great. He had it all, including the softest hands where were underutilized throughout his career. 

These are a couple of interesting nominations. Nate Clements is another that is interesting to me. Takeo Spikes as well. 

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

For those of you hesitant to put Allen on there, “because it’s too early” you are missing the question. The question is “the most physically gifted Bills ever.” Josh Allen, may be, the most physically gifted person to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s inarguably on the list. 
 

If the question was, “who are the 5 greatest Bills ever” I’m fine with no Allen. I see a lot of Thurman on here and I think people are using those 2 questions interchangeably. I love Thurman. He is one of the 5 greatest Bills ever. He’s not one of the 5 most physically gifted. 

I am pretty sure people were misspelling words too

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5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think you nailed the top 3.  I don’t think there’s a debate that those guys are on top. 
 

the question is, who’s next on the list.

 

Jason Peters?

That’s another GREAT one. He’s a HOF OT that entered the league as an enormous TE.

 

 

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51 minutes ago, njbuff said:

Andre Reed and Eric Moulds belong in the conversation as great all time Bills and great natural talents.

Moulds in particular should get more attention in this thread.  I wouldn't put him ahead of Bruce or Allen, but I thought he was more physically talented than Reed and I would pay good money to see what he would have been like in this offense with modern NFL rules.

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