Next Player to be traded ???

[marck]

Wondering what depth area the Bills are going to address for the next Beane trade for a draft pick?

[VaMilBill]

Moss. They seem to be giving him the Sammy Watkins treatment

[Logic]

Josh Allen.

Keenum looked really good on Saturday.

Now's the time to sell high on #17. Just ask that guy that called into WGR after the game. 

[Rc2catch]

Maybe one of the lower corners like Lewis. I’m not sold we’ll see more trades but I didn’t think they’d ship ford out either so my opinion is kinda garbage lol 

[Gene Frenkle]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

Josh Allen.

Keenum looked really good on Saturday.

Now's the time to sell high on #17. Just ask that guy that called into WGR after the game. 

 

It's an interesting thought experiment - what could the Bills get for Josh Allen? 😂

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Moss. They seem to be giving him the Sammy Watkins treatment

Moss seems like good trade candidate.

[The Jokeman]

3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Moss. They seem to be giving him the Sammy Watkins treatment

If someone offers a 4th or higher for Moss I take it otherwise I say keep him.

[Logic]

1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

It's an interesting thought experiment - what could the Bills get for Josh Allen? 😂

"I would trade MYSELF before I traded Josh Allen".

- Brandon Beane on the Pat McAfee show.

[Gene Frenkle]

Just now, Logic said:

"I would trade MYSELF before I traded Josh Allen".

- Brandon Beane on the Pat McAfee show.

 

LOVE that quote!

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

It's an interesting thought experiment - what could the Bills get for Josh Allen? 😂

I'll tell you what, Beane could get 2 broken legs, 2 black eyes and a pair of cement water shoes.

[MasterStrategist]

Secondary is loaded.  It's either Tre starting the yr on PUP/IR, or we likely are moving someone.

 

 

[TheBrownBear]

I think Moss has value in a trade, but I really don't want to part with him.  He's the one RB who can really play the physical punisher role in short yardage, and he's underrated as a pass catcher by fans.  

 

I'd love it if they could get something, anything for OJ Howard.  Same goes with Duke Johnson.

[Logic]

5 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Moss. They seem to be giving him the Sammy Watkins treatment

I respectfully disagree that they've been showcasing Moss for a trade.

If you want to trade him, you give him a bunch of carries in the second half of games. You don't mix him in with the 1st and 2nd units in camp and preseason, and you don't give him repeated goal line carries.

Further, Moss offers power and short yardage/goal line ability that no one else on the roster has. Blacksheer and Johnson are both more similar to Singletary and Cook. No one else has what Moss has, unless they want to make Gilliam the full time short yardage back.

All signs point to Singletary, Moss, Cook and Jones being the RB foursome that the Bills roll with this year.

[richNjoisy]

One of the defensive ends.  Pick one not named Rousseau,  Miller, Epenesa, or Basham.  Love? Lawson? Ankou?

[FilthyBeast]

Moss would be my choice by default because I hate the idea of doing this RB by committee crap yet again when Singletary has proven himself and Cook will be pushing him for snaps as it is. This is still going to be a pass first team with Allen also eating on the ground and you can't split carries between 3 guys anymore.

 

And considering how Ford has been showcased in hindsight, get the sense that's what they are trying to do with guys like Moss and Epenesa as well.

[Logic]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

Secondary is loaded.  It's either Tre starting the yr on PUP/IR, or we likely are moving someone.

 

It would be cool to get a draft pick back for Cam Lewis or Nick McCloud, given that the Bills are reasonably unlikely to sneak both players through to the practice squad.

I'd suggest trying to get a 7th out of the Giants for Lewis, but Schoen is probably smart enough to call that bluff and just let the Bills cut him.

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

Moss would be my choice by default because I hate the idea of doing this RB by committee crap yet again when Singletary has proven himself and Cook will be pushing him for snaps as it is. This is still going to be a pass first team with Allen also eating on the ground and you can't split carries between 3 guys anymore.

 

And considering how Ford has been showcased in hindsight, get the sense that's what they are trying to do with guys like Moss and Epenesa as well.

I think it would be highly unwise to trade away the third best edge rusher -- and likely the best right defensive end -- on the roster, just as he appears to be starting to live up to his draft potential.

[StHustle]

Crowder

Duke Johnson

Blackshear

 

would be all guys teams would give up a pick for imo

[mushypeaches]

Tremaine Edmunds...

 

I'll see my way out now

[StHustle]

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Moss would be my choice by default because I hate the idea of doing this RB by committee crap yet again when Singletary has proven himself and Cook will be pushing him for snaps as it is. This is still going to be a pass first team with Allen also eating on the ground and you can't split carries between 3 guys anymore.

 

And considering how Ford has been showcased in hindsight, get the sense that's what they are trying to do with guys like Moss and Epenesa as well.

Only way I could be on board is if we got a 3rd rounder for him and I doubt a team would do that. Maybe a 4th at best. If Devin goes down are you really good with a rookie in Blackshear or you would keep Duke Johnson over Moss?

[FilthyBeast]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

It would be cool to get a draft pick back for Cam Lewis or Nick McCloud, given that the Bills are reasonably unlikely to sneak both players through to the practice squad.

I'd suggest trying to get a 7th out of the Giants for Lewis, but Schoen is probably smart enough to call that bluff and just let the Bills cut him.

I think it would be highly unwise to trade away the third best edge rusher -- and likely the best right defensive end -- on the roster, just as he appears to be starting to live up to his draft potential.

 

That's obviously TBD.

 

Epenesa had a great preseason/camp last year and awesome game in week 2 against the Dolphins but then seemingly disappeared the rest of the way.

 

I still think he's a bit too small for DE and another guy probably better suited in a 3-4 style defense as an OLB.

 

At this point I still like Basham over him as the 3rd DE option, possibly even Shaq Lawson who I've waffled back and forth on in terms of being on the bubble.

[Process]

I don't care that Moss scored some meaningless preseason touchdowns. He is nothing special and can easily be replaced by an undrafted free agent. 

 

If the Bills could somehow get a 4th or 5th round pick it's a no brainer. 

[eball]

6 minutes ago, Logic said:

I respectfully disagree that they've been showcasing Moss for a trade.

If you want to trade him, you give him a bunch of carries in the second half of games. You don't mix him in with the 1st and 2nd units in camp and preseason, and you don't give him repeated goal line carries.

Further, Moss offers power and short yardage/goal line ability that no one else on the roster has. Blacksheer and Johnson are both more similar to Singletary and Cook. No one else has what Moss has, unless they want to make Gilliam the full time short yardage back.

All signs point to Singletary, Moss, Cook and Jones being the RB foursome that the Bills roll with this year.

 

Agree, man.  I don't understand the "trade Moss" movement.  He was not healthy last year, and a Motor/Moss/Cook combo makes this backfield pretty scary.

 

That said, I don't think the Bills give Motor or Moss 2nd contracts.  I'll reserve my right to opine on Cook until he has played a regular season snap.

 

[FilthyBeast]

2 minutes ago, StHustle said:

Only way I could be on board is if we got a 3rd rounder for him and I doubt a team would do that. Maybe a 4th at best. If Devin goes down are you really good with a rookie in Blackshear or you would keep Duke Johnson over Moss?

 

I don't see any team offering a 3rd for Moss 3 years after we drafted him in the same round.

 

But for something like a conditional 5th/6th rounder I think Beane would probably be inclined to do it even if they know they probably aren't resigning Singletary after this season.

[NickelCity]

17 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Moss. They seem to be giving him the Sammy Watkins treatment

 

I wouldn't be shocked. I'd be mildly surprised, but I think for the right price (that we won't get) he's moveable.

Edited August 22, 2022 by NickelCity

[RyanC883]

10 minutes ago, richNjoisy said:

One of the defensive ends.  Pick one not named Rousseau,  Miller, Epenesa, or Basham.  Love? Lawson? Ankou?

 

I'm not sure the ones you named have value (perhaps Lawson?).  I could see Epenesa or Basham having some value.  

[Punching Bag]

20 minutes ago, Logic said:

Josh Allen.

Keenum looked really good on Saturday.

Now's the time to sell high on #17. Just ask that guy that called into WGR after the game. 

 

That is what happens when you mix alcohol and magic mushrooms.

[TheBrownBear]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Agree, man.  I don't understand the "trade Moss" movement.  He was not healthy last year, and a Motor/Moss/Cook combo makes this backfield pretty scary.

 

That said, I don't think the Bills give Motor or Moss 2nd contracts.  I'll reserve my right to opine on Cook until he has played a regular season snap.

 

Agreed.  I have no interest in giving either Moss or Singletary a 2nd contract unless they show something this year that we haven't previously seen.  In some respect, and please note that I understand that this will never and should never happen, the most logical move would be to ship out Singletary for a pick and keep Blackshear since he's really in the mold of Singletary (lesser runner, but better receiver), and you still have Moss under contract for an additional year.  

[Logic]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Agree, man.  I don't understand the "trade Moss" movement.  He was not healthy last year, and a Motor/Moss/Cook combo makes this backfield pretty scary.

 

That said, I don't think the Bills give Motor or Moss 2nd contracts.  I'll reserve my right to opine on Cook until he has played a regular season snap.

 

I agree.

I think another reason the Bills will keep Moss is that they're likely to let Singletary walk this offseason. Moss, then, could be the thunder to Cook's lightning in 2023 (assuming he plays well this season, of course).

Cook is the only running back on the roster that I could see getting a second contract. I only believe in giving second contracts to running backs who either offer dynamic, homerun hitting ability, or are serious threats in the passing game. Cook potentially checks both of those boxes. Obviously, it's way too early to declare that he'll be worthy of big money in a few years, but he at least seems to have the skillset that makes it a reasonable conversation. Otherwise, I'm team "don't give second contracts to running backs, especially if you're paying big money to a quarterback". (Sorry, that's a long team name).

[eball]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:

Agreed.  I have no interest in giving either Moss or Singletary a 2nd contract unless they show something this year that we haven't previously seen.  In some respect, and please note that I understand that this will never and should never happen, the most logical move would be to ship out Singletary for a pick and keep Blackshear since he's really in the mold of Singletary (lesser runner, but better receiver), and you still have Moss under contract for an additional year.  

 

I don't think so.  Singletary has looked really explosive and shifty the last two weeks.  I think he's going to be terrific in this offense.  Moss is going to be the short yardage/change of pace guy, and Cook will play a lot as a receiver.

 

When is Singletary's deal up?  I see Cook developing into a primary back.

 

[Logic]

3 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

That is what happens when you mix alcohol and magic mushrooms.

I dunno, man.

I've done exactly that and, sure, I had to be ejected from the Home Depot pants-less and and shrieking, but I STILL wouldn't have traded Josh Allen.

[TheBrownBear]

1 minute ago, eball said:

 

I don't think so.  Singletary has looked really explosive and shifty the last two weeks.  I think he's going to be terrific in this offense.  Moss is going to be the short yardage/change of pace guy, and Cook will play a lot as a receiver.

 

When is Singletary's deal up?  I see Cook developing into a primary back.

 

I agree.  I like Singletary.  Shifty and fun to watch.  Only brought it up as a thought experiment, since he's on the last year of his deal.  

[4merper4mer]

16 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Agree, man.  I don't understand the "trade Moss" movement.  He was not healthy last year, and a Motor/Moss/Cook combo makes this backfield pretty scary.

 

That said, I don't think the Bills give Motor or Moss 2nd contracts.  I'll reserve my right to opine on Cook until he has played a regular season snap.

 

I have to think the Bills will not want to run Allen as much on the goal line this year.  Moss fits this role well.  I’m not saying Motor or Cook could’n’t get carries there, but it fits Moss.

Edited August 22, 2022 by 4merper4mer

[Matt_In_NH]

Crowder or Moss

[Simon Says]

Wonder if they tried to trade Haack ?

How about Shaq Lawson as a trade candidate?

OJ Howard?

Edited August 22, 2022 by Georgie

[AuntieEm]

23 minutes ago, Logic said:

It would be cool to get a draft pick back for Cam Lewis or Nick McCloud, given that the Bills are reasonably unlikely to sneak both players through to the practice squad.

I'd suggest trying to get a 7th out of the Giants for Lewis, but Schoen is probably smart enough to call that bluff and just let the Bills cut him.

I think it would be highly unwise to trade away the third best edge rusher -- and likely the best right defensive end -- on the roster, just as he appears to be starting to live up to his draft potential.

 

   If Schoen wants to sign one of our cb cuts it's really smarter for Schoen to trade a low round pick to be sure to get that player.  Waiting post cut the player is a fa can choose if they get multiple offers from nfl teams. No guarantee he signs with nyg.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by AuntieEm

[mrags]

29 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

It's an interesting thought experiment - what could the Bills get for Josh Allen? 😂

If it’s not at least a 3rd rounder then forget it 

[AuntieEm]

1 minute ago, mrags said:

If it’s not at least a 3rd rounder then forget it 

 

 I dunno 3rd rounder is pretty steep for a guy with Allen's accuracy issues.

 

 

 

[wppete]

Duke Johnson. Cheap short term contract is tempting to a team with need for a proven veteran. 

[SBbeliever]

30 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

If someone offers a 4th or higher for Moss I take it otherwise I say keep him.

I don't see any team trading much for Moss - -not a 4th!  He's a pretty average RB.

[stevewin]

I think Beane would trade Howard in a heartbeat if he found a partner