Motorin' Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, StHustle said: Wait….so you can get sued now for pressuring a woman into giving you oral sex? No physical assault or rape…just trying too hard to convince a woman (who eventually obliged) can cost you millions??? Definitely not defending Watson but the idea it’s some sort of civil liability attached to pressuring a woman to have oral sex who eventually does the job….is CRAZY to me! Something tells me you'd be singing a different tune if your boss tried to pressure you into giving him oral sex while you were trying to do your job. 1 3 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, StHustle said: Wait….so you can get sued now for pressuring a woman into giving you oral sex? No physical assault or rape…just trying too hard to convince a woman (who eventually obliged) can cost you millions??? Definitely not defending Watson but the idea it’s some sort of civil liability attached to pressuring a woman to have oral sex who eventually does the job….is CRAZY to me! It's crazy to Harvey Weinstein too, but here we are. If Watson threatened to use his fame or celebrity to ruin this woman's business or reputation if she did not give him what he wanted, it's an assault. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, StHustle said: Wait….so you can get sued now for pressuring a woman into giving you oral sex? No physical assault or rape…just trying too hard to convince a woman (who eventually obliged) can cost you millions??? Definitely not defending Watson but the idea it’s some sort of civil liability attached to pressuring a woman to have oral sex who eventually does the job….is CRAZY to me! Wow. Of all the bad takes I’ve seen on this website…. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, StHustle said: Wait….so you can get sued now for pressuring a woman into giving you oral sex? No physical assault or rape…just trying too hard to convince a woman (who eventually obliged) can cost you millions??? Definitely not defending Watson but the idea it’s some sort of civil liability attached to pressuring a woman to have oral sex who eventually does the job….is CRAZY to me! Think about the situation for a second, some young girl alone in a room with a big NFL football player, talk about intimidation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Think about the situation for a second, some young girl alone in a room with a big NFL football player, talk about intimidation. Exactly, I don't think a lot of guys realize how intimidating situations like these can be for women. I've had more than one woman friend tell me that they've gone along and complied in situations like that because there were worried about what would happen to them if they said no. Like, literally being frightened for their life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Think about the situation for a second, some young girl alone in a room with a big NFL football player, talk about intimidation. I haven't seen any particulars of the new lawsuit. But the previous suits, several made a point that Watson wanted to arrive privately, without checking in, or be in a situation after hours where there weren't any other staff around, vs. being in a spa where the woman could run out the door or even knock on the walls and find immediate help. 20 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Wow. Of all the bad takes I’ve seen on this website…. I know, right? The mind boggles. I Can't Even. The intimidation or fear has to be what it was all about for Watson IMO. You would think, handsome young pro athlete could get all the action he wants socially. Wealthy pro athlete could hire a professional or professionals to give him whatever, whenever. Edited October 14, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Something tells me you'd be singing a different tune if your boss tried to pressure you into giving him oral sex while you were trying to do your job. Don't think I'd be singing any tune in that situation, but I get your point nonetheless. Distasteful humor aside, I'm shocked we have guys here who actually believe this kind of behavior is okay. If there's an attraction there and your personalities are vibing while talking during the massage, wait until the service is over and payment is exchanged, and at that point, maybe you can think about asking for their personal number or if they'd like to grab a coffee/drink sometime outside of the business/client environment. Edited October 14, 2022 by TheBrownBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Motorin' said: Something tells me you'd be singing a different tune if your boss tried to pressure you into giving him oral sex while you were trying to do your job. 3 hours ago, Perry Turtle said: It's crazy to Harvey Weinstein too, but here we are. If Watson threatened to use his fame or celebrity to ruin this woman's business or reputation if she did not give him what he wanted, it's an assault. 3 hours ago, stevestojan said: Wow. Of all the bad takes I’ve seen on this website…. 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Think about the situation for a second, some young girl alone in a room with a big NFL football player, talk about intimidation. You guys seem to be assuming what type of pressure was applied. She didnt say she was threatened. She could have simply been asked over and over. Many people consider being persuaded to do something as the same as being pressured to do something....so cant judge the situation off "pressured to" cause you dont have to fold to pressure. She could have simply declined. Nobody accused him of using force. I dont fault Watson for asking for sex from his massage therapists. There is nothing necessarily wrong with an adult asking another for sex in a one on one situation. Comparing him to someones boss is silly. He was a client of theirs...not their boss. What I do fault Watson for is whipping it out on these women unsolicited. Thats what took these situations to a sick level. No excuse for that and in my eyes makes him a sexual predator. But trying to talk someone into giving you oral sex isnt a crime. If they end up doing it then two years later want to get paid for being talked into oral sex.....gotta roll my eyes at that. Edited October 14, 2022 by StHustle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, StHustle said: My issue is Yes, yes….go on…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, StHustle said: You guys seem to be assuming what type of pressure was applied. She didnt say she was threatened. She could have simply been asked over and over. Many people consider being persuaded to do something as the same as being pressured to do something....so cant judge the situation off "pressured to" cause you dont have to fold to pressure. She could have simply declined. Nobody accused him of using force. I dont fault Watson for asking for sex from his massage therapists. There is nothing necessarily wrong with an adult asking another for sex in a one on one situation. Comparing him to someones boss is silly. He was a client of theirs...not their boss. What I do fault Watson for is whipping it out on these women unsolicited. Thats what took these situations to a sick level. No excuse for that and in my eyes makes him a sexual predator. But trying to talk someone into giving you oral sex isnt a crime. If they end up doing it then two years later want to get paid for being talked into oral sex.....gotta roll my eyes at that. My issue is Yeah, they were the ones making assumptions about the type of pressure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I wonder if he goes to Walmart and does the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, StHustle said: You guys seem to be assuming what type of pressure was applied. She didnt say she was threatened. She could have simply been asked over and over. Many people consider being persuaded to do something as the same as being pressured to do something....so cant judge the situation off "pressured to" cause you dont have to fold to pressure. She could have simply declined. Nobody accused him of using force. I dont fault Watson for asking for sex from his massage therapists. There is nothing necessarily wrong with an adult asking another for sex in a one on one situation. Comparing him to someones boss is silly. He was a client of theirs...not their boss. What I do fault Watson for is whipping it out on these women unsolicited. Thats what took these situations to a sick level. No excuse for that and in my eyes makes him a sexual predator. But trying to talk someone into giving you oral sex isnt a crime. If they end up doing it then two years later want to get paid for being talked into oral sex.....gotta roll my eyes at that. My issue is You’re asking questions that need to be asked, I agree. Too many people just go to the worst version available in their minds or just think we should believe all woman for no other reason than they are women. Maybe it was a terrible power dynamic and he strong armed her with his position and physical presence or maybe it was just persistence. We can’t know and we shouldn’t jump to conclusions, when we don’t have all the info. Edited October 14, 2022 by HamSandwhich 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, StHustle said: You guys seem to be assuming what type of pressure was applied. She didnt say she was threatened. She could have simply been asked over and over. Many people consider being persuaded to do something as the same as being pressured to do something....so cant judge the situation off "pressured to" cause you dont have to fold to pressure. She could have simply declined. Nobody accused him of using force. I dont fault Watson for asking for sex from his massage therapists. There is nothing necessarily wrong with an adult asking another for sex in a one on one situation. Comparing him to someones boss is silly. He was a client of theirs...not their boss. What I do fault Watson for is whipping it out on these women unsolicited. Thats what took these situations to a sick level. No excuse for that and in my eyes makes him a sexual predator. But trying to talk someone into giving you oral sex isnt a crime. If they end up doing it then two years later want to get paid for being talked into oral sex.....gotta roll my eyes at that. My issue is Keep walking back, you are almost at the edge of the cliff… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Keep walking back, you are almost at the edge of the cliff… You sound like a delightful person! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) With great power comes great responsibility and regardless of the details and what really happened the situation played out how it did. You can only hope anybody who might encounter a similar scenarios in their life might use this as a learning experience. Hopefully football stars and massage therapist act with more caution in the future. Even though this was more on the extreme side I think people in those lines of work can gain perspective from what happened. The girls got paid and hopefully that helps with the healing process. The dude didn't end up going to jail so hopefully he chills out with that sort of thing for good. Everyone look for those silver linings and move on. Edited October 14, 2022 by Lfod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: You sound like a delightful person! lol compared to that guy? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: lol compared to that guy? Thanks! You’re better than your fellow man? Why do you have a superiority complex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Imagine having to bend your logic and morals into cheering for this guy as the face of your franchise. Edited October 14, 2022 by TheFunPolice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 hours ago, StHustle said: Wait….so you can get sued now for pressuring a woman into giving you oral sex? No physical assault or rape…just trying too hard to convince a woman (who eventually obliged) can cost you millions??? Definitely not defending Watson but the idea it’s some sort of civil liability attached to pressuring a woman to have oral sex who eventually does the job….is CRAZY to me! It’s considered rape in Texas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Imagine having to bend your logic and morals into cheering for this guy as the face of your franchise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, JDubya76 said: what a great movie! Candy was 100% believable as that character! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s considered rape in Texas Coercion by force or threats is. The poster was speaking about persuasion without force or threats. Just clarifying what I think the poster meant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 any chance Deshaun is back on the sidelines with Cleveland by the time we play them? I want to heckle the ever-loving ***** out of that guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: any chance Deshaun is back on the sidelines with Cleveland by the time we play them? I want to heckle the ever-loving ***** out of that guy no he's already suspended 11 games before this came out, and assuming he is meeting all of the terms of his agreement with the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, Captain Caveman said: no he's already suspended 11 games before this came out, and assuming he is meeting all of the terms of his agreement with the league. so no team activities whatsoever , right? If that’s the case then I have a hard time believing that he plays @HOU week 13 (although you just know the networks want him to.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RiotAct said: so no team activities whatsoever , right? If that’s the case then I have a hard time believing that he plays @HOU week 13 (although you just know the networks want him to.) I believe so but don't quote me. Even if he can't practice with the team, I'd be shocked if he's not out there in the first game he's eligible. Sure, he'll be rusty, but the only way to really shake off 2 years of rust is to play, and he's not coming back from an ACL or some other injury. Edited October 14, 2022 by Captain Caveman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Caveman said: I believe so but don't quote me. Even if he can't practice with the team, I'd be shocked if he's not out there in the first game he's eligible. Sure, he'll be rusty, but the only way to really shake off 2 years of rust is to play, and he's not coming back from an ACL or some other injury. maybe you’re right, i just foresee that being pretty ugly for the Browns if he hasn’t even had a chance to practice with the offense at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, RiotAct said: maybe you’re right, i just foresee that being pretty ugly for the Browns if he hasn’t even had a chance to practice with the offense at all. Which would be great to see. Getting thrown right back into football after being away for all that time, hardly any practice with a new team, going back to a city that should be a hostel environment for him (if the fans show up). Could be quite the blow (no pun intended) to his psyche and the mental aspect of his game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 He's a scum bag it's still not enough he should be suspended 1 game per person he tried to seduce while getting his massage what a BOS !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) I cannot wait to hear the crowd at his first away game. Don't take your kids to that game. Edited October 14, 2022 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, TBBills said: I cannot wait to hear the crowd at his first away game. Don't take your kids to that game. And that was the Jaguars they barely have fans, also in the preseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: so no team activities whatsoever , right? If that’s the case then I have a hard time believing that he plays @HOU week 13 (although you just know the networks want him to.) He’s back in the facility this week but idk all of what he’s been doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s back in the facility this week but idk all of what he’s been doing Getting massages from some guy named Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said: You’re better than your fellow man? Why do you have a superiority complex? This poster has set the bar as low as it can go. Check all the other responses… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: so no team activities whatsoever , right? If that’s the case then I have a hard time believing that he plays @HOU week 13 (although you just know the networks want him to.) 1 hour ago, Captain Caveman said: I believe so but don't quote me. Even if he can't practice with the team, I'd be shocked if he's not out there in the first game he's eligible. Sure, he'll be rusty, but the only way to really shake off 2 years of rust is to play, and he's not coming back from an ACL or some other injury. Watson is allowed to start practicing Nov 14. Two weeks before he is allowed to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Watson is allowed to start practicing Nov 14. Two weeks before he is allowed to play. Gotcha. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, TBBills said: Don't take your kids to that game. I was very relieved that he won't be playing against us, not for any competitive reasons (well mostly) but because that's the one game on the schedule that looks like it will work to take my son to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: I was very relieved that he won't be playing against us, not for any competitive reasons (well mostly) but because that's the one game on the schedule that looks like it will work to take my son to. I’m still mentally preparing some barbs to regale the Cleveland sideline with, Watson or no Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Getting massages from some guy named Lars. He prefers females to "massage" his prostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 22 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s considered rape in Texas No what the poster StHustle articulated is in no way considered rape in Texas, no idea where you came up that. The act of asking for sex is not considered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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