ProcessAccepted Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Looking forward to the That's Good Sports take on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Misleading title...it's not owned by Walmart the corporation, it's owners by one of the Walmart heirs as an individual...huge difference. For sure. I was going to say this is a weird thing for the NFL to allow a company to buy a team. Maybe they will roll back to the better Denver uniforms. Edited June 7, 2022 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Warcodered said: Cool they can name their stadium "Wally World" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Will they create a website dedicated to "The people of Broncos Stadium?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Did he put the sale on Lay-a-way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Walmart now owns the Rapids, Nuggets, Avalanche, and Broncos in Denver. How much are the Rockies worth? $2.27 Billion according to Google. Again...it's not Walmart. The company owns none of those teams. Individual people do. This would be like saying Microsoft owned the Seahawks when Paul Allen owned the team. It's false and makes you look like you are clueless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: Again...it's not Walmart. The company owns none of those teams. Individual people do. This would be like saying Microsoft owned the Seahawks when Paul Allen owned the team. It's false and makes you look like you are clueless. If it makes you feel better. They share the same interests. It would be like saying Stephen A. works for ESPN, not Disney. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: Misleading title...it's not owned by Walmart the corporation, it's owners by one of the Walmart heirs as an individual...huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, unbillievable said: If it makes you feel better. They share the same interests. It would be like saying Stephen A. works for ESPN, not Disney. Not really...that's his employer. These are individual people acting out of their own interest without anything to do with Walmart the company. Edited June 7, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 18 hours ago, Warcodered said: If the Broncos move to Arkansas do they become the Arkansas Razorbacks? And were they negotiating a sale ahead of time and told previous Broncos owners we will only buy if you get a real QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: If it makes you feel better. They share the same interests. It would be like saying Stephen A. works for ESPN, not Disney. It's nothing like that. And it's just one of the inaccuracies in the thread title 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Dean said: It's nothing like that. And it's just one of the inaccuracies in the thread title Technically the thread title is correct. The heirs that are buying the Broncos own the majority of the shares of Walmart. And majority ownership is basically an extension of self. So for all practical intents, saying Walmart is buying the Broncos is correct. While it’s true, the company itself isn’t buying the Broncos, the people who own Walmart are buying the Broncos. So basically Walmart money bought the Broncos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Technically the thread title is correct. The heirs that are buying the Broncos own the majority of the shares of Walmart. And majority ownership is basically an extension of self. So for all practical intents, saying Walmart is buying the Broncos is correct. While it’s true, the company itself isn’t buying the Broncos, the people who own Walmart are buying the Broncos. So basically Walmart money bought the Broncos. It absolutely is not. Because Walmart buying them would constitute decisions being made by the Board of Directors versus a single person and decisions made would reflect Walmart decisions. It's irrelevant how many shares they own of it, they are acting as their own entity having nothing to do with a Board of Directors from that company. Not to mention all of the ramifications legally and financially that are completely different if they were owned by a publicly traded company. Edited June 7, 2022 by Big Turk 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Wow...he is going to be the richest NFL Owner by far and worth more than the next 6 richest owners combined! Broncos will never have any financial issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Wow...he is going to be the richest NFL Owner by far and worth more than the next 6 richest owners combined! Broncos will never have any financial issues. Yeah must be nice. So much money to imagine and only paying a couple thousand dollars a year in taxes lol. One can only dream of such a life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said: Technically the thread title is correct. The heirs that are buying the Broncos own the majority of the shares of Walmart. And majority ownership is basically an extension of self. So for all practical intents, saying Walmart is buying the Broncos is correct. While it’s true, the company itself isn’t buying the Broncos, the people who own Walmart are buying the Broncos. So basically Walmart money bought the Broncos. Who really cares.. jesus.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Walton has placed a request for much larger rosters. Buying in bulk is classic cost-cutting measure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Twin Fair to buy the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Wow...he is going to be the richest NFL Owner by far and worth more than the next 6 richest owners combined! Broncos will never have any financial issues. I’m pretty sure most of the teams don’t have any financial issues either , except maybe the Raiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Putin said: I’m pretty sure most of the teams don’t have any financial issues either , except maybe the Raiders Lol, still can't understand with all the money Mark Davis has, that's the best haircut he comes up with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I would have been more excited if somebody from Costco bought it, it would have been great to get a $1.99 hotdog and soda, or a whole Pizza for the cost of a beer at most places. Either way, I’m sure they will get sweet volume discounts on numerous goods. Maybe they can get a decent deal on a herd of QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 In other news…Elway lost millions when I didn’t take an ownership stake before he retired because he was owed money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Putin said: I’m pretty sure most of the teams don’t have any financial issues either , except maybe the Raiders It's about signing bonuses and doing out large sims up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I thought Scorpio bought it for Homer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SMAKCruiser said: I thought Scorpio bought it for Homer... 😄 That actually aired earlier tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, SMAKCruiser said: I thought Scorpio bought it for Homer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: It absolutely is not. Because Walmart buying them would constitute decisions being made by the Board of Directors versus a single person and decisions made would reflect Walmart decisions. It's irrelevant how many shares they own of it, they are acting as their own entity having nothing to do with a Board of Directors from that company. Not to mention all of the ramifications legally and financially that are completely different if they were owned by a publicly traded company. I’ve already said that Walmart the company is not buying the Broncos. But the owners of Walmart are. They have basically taken the profits over the years that Walmart yielded them to be able to do this. Hence why I said it’s technically Walmart money, not the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 19 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Do they even tear down their old buildings? I thought most of them are just left to rot. yes most of them. Gordmans moved into some. Then sadly died during Covid shutdown. In my area one was smartly remodeled into a Farm and Fleet. Sort of a Lowes or Menards geared for Farmers. W car repair garages too. And Walmart execs in abandoning mode......take note...Farm and Fleet original building right next door was demolished and replaced with Casey's convivence store and gas. Also a bank. I mean check out how sweet this redo is. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x88086bd3a539ea05%3A0xf38fac260fd3f277!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipP2fJArlqTBz1ZrlNy7Ck5nl3eegElZYJ_pkdMJ%3Dw240-h160-k-no!5sfarm and fleet freeport il - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipP2fJArlqTBz1ZrlNy7Ck5nl3eegElZYJ_pkdMJ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZxJ3O_5z4AhWot4QIHc_qB-oQoip6BAhVEAM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVGrown Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 13 hours ago, djp14150 said: In other news…Elway lost millions when I didn’t take an ownership stake before he retired because he was owed money 900 million!! Damn!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 The $1.4B Terry Pegula paid seems like pocket change now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The $1.4B Terry Pegula paid seems like pocket change now. With the new stadium and a franchise QB his investment seems to be paying off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 14 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Twin Fair to buy the Browns. More like Dollar General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, LVGrown said: 900 million!! Damn!!! Here is more to that story. Back in 1998, his final NFL season, team owner Pat Bowlen came to John with an offer. At the time, John was owed $21 million in deferred salary (à la Bobby Bonilla). Bowlen's offer was simple: #1: John could buy 10% of the team for $15 million. #2: John could have another 10% if he agreed to relinquish the $21 million deferred salary. In other words, for a combined $36 million (with only $15 million of cash coming out of his bank on day one), John Elway could have bought 20% of the Broncos. At that level, Bowlen was offering 20% of the Broncos at a $180 million overall team valuation. As if that offer wasn't generous enough, Pat gave John a 100% risk-free insurance policy. If after five years John wanted out, he could sell his stake back to Bowlen for his purchase price plus $5 million. So not only risk free, literally get paid $5 million if he changed his mind. And in case you are wondering if Elway could have afforded $15 million down in 1998, at that point he had earned $50 million in NFL salary, around $20 million from endorsements AND just one year earlier had sold his John Elway Autos franchise for $82.5 million. So $15 million for a risk-free opportunity to own 20% of an NFL team. What did John decide? He declined. And today that officially became an absolutely horrendous decision… As if that wasn't painful enough, there's more pain in this story for John Elway. Instead of buying 20% of the Broncos, John ended up taking that same down payment amount, $15 million, and invested it in what eventually proved to be a $150 million Ponzi scheme. Not only did John NOT make any return on the $15 million, he lost a bit more than half of his investment. So in essence, instead of taking $15 million and turning it into $900 million, John took $15 million and turned it into $7 million 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: I’ve already said that Walmart the company is not buying the Broncos. But the owners of Walmart are. They have basically taken the profits over the years that Walmart yielded them to be able to do this. Hence why I said it’s technically Walmart money, not the company. Your understanding of finance and legal entities and how corporations work is astoundingly incorrect, yet it doesn't stop you from continuing to double down on it. Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Here is more to that story. Back in 1998, his final NFL season, team owner Pat Bowlen came to John with an offer. At the time, John was owed $21 million in deferred salary (à la Bobby Bonilla). Bowlen's offer was simple: #1: John could buy 10% of the team for $15 million. #2: John could have another 10% if he agreed to relinquish the $21 million deferred salary. In other words, for a combined $36 million (with only $15 million of cash coming out of his bank on day one), John Elway could have bought 20% of the Broncos. At that level, Bowlen was offering 20% of the Broncos at a $180 million overall team valuation. As if that offer wasn't generous enough, Pat gave John a 100% risk-free insurance policy. If after five years John wanted out, he could sell his stake back to Bowlen for his purchase price plus $5 million. So not only risk free, literally get paid $5 million if he changed his mind. And in case you are wondering if Elway could have afforded $15 million down in 1998, at that point he had earned $50 million in NFL salary, around $20 million from endorsements AND just one year earlier had sold his John Elway Autos franchise for $82.5 million. So $15 million for a risk-free opportunity to own 20% of an NFL team. What did John decide? He declined. And today that officially became an absolutely horrendous decision… As if that wasn't painful enough, there's more pain in this story for John Elway. Instead of buying 20% of the Broncos, John ended up taking that same down payment amount, $15 million, and invested it in what eventually proved to be a $150 million Ponzi scheme. Not only did John NOT make any return on the $15 million, he lost a bit more than half of his investment. So in essence, instead of taking $15 million and turning it into $900 million, John took $15 million and turned it into $7 million Wow what a dumb ass. Reminds me of when I was a kid and begged my parents to get Microsoft stock. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So in essence, instead of taking $15 million and turning it into $900 million, John took $15 million and turned it into $7 million Maybe he'll take that $7M and invest in something smart, like cryptocurrency. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Your understanding of finance and legal entities and how corporations work is astoundingly incorrect, yet it doesn't stop you from continuing to double down on it. Impressive. Where do you think the Waltons got their money? From investing in Microsoft? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said: Where do you think the Waltons got their money? From investing in Microsoft? Lol Suppose Walmart was found liable for some heinous offense and had its assets frozen. Are the Broncos part of those assets? No. That's why business owners set up corporations - to separate their personal assets from those of the company. Money made via Walmart may have bought the team, but Walmart as an entity did not. I assume most of your money came from your job. When you use some of that money to buy a car, would you say your employer bought the car for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 No Walmart will not own the Broncos, the Walton family will own it just like ATL is not owned by Home Depot, it’s owned by Arthur Blank. I do think it could be interesting how Walmart could provide concessions at Pennie’s on the dollar the team would still make an obscene profit with modest prices. You want a single owner like the NFL wants to not have companies own a team. It keeps things clean. The other owners must be drueling they will be allowing their now richest owner by three fold dwarfing Kronke, Jones, Glazers, the Allen family, Tepper, etc. Walton is one of the richest men in America. That vote is a formality. Consider hell buy that team for $4.65 bil., and will spend probably another $5 bil. Ina SoFi type stadium. Anyone up for a Denver SB in 2030? Sounds like a great ski week with finishing off the Bills winning the SB! Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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