Pats' fans melting down over 1st rd pick, Video of McVay laughing at the pick... Brutal!

[billsfan89]

13 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

He just isn’t a good talent evaluator. Pro or college. Brady made Belichick, not the other way around. 

 

I think Billy B's has taken a lot of players off the scrap heap and gotten good production out of them on both sides of the ball. I think he has also gotten some draft hits here and there all throughout the draft. But no GM is perfect and as a GM I would say he is pretty average at best maybe better on the pro side esp in the bargain bin. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 hours ago, stevewin said:

The best part of this is the reigning SB winning NFL coach literally laughing at old Mumbledore in NE pullng a moob muscle trying so hard to show he's the smartest guy in the room again and failing.   McVay's not kissing his rings or even showing him any respect.  F you Bellicheat. 

I still don’t see why PROVEN cheaters get respect.  
 

Good on the guy on the camera 🎥 keeping it live.  

[KDIGGZ]

I love the "this defense didn't force a punt the last 2 games against the Bills and they have done nothing to get better!" Lol in fact they got worse, they lost a few notable guys on defense including JC Jackson who is the youngest son of Mr. Stefon Diggs

[Buffalo716]

10 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

WOW

That’s probably the best knob shine Billy has had in decades!

I bet Kraft is jealous 😎

Listen I've seen this board blow Tom Brady 

 

I was blasted a few weeks ago for not unanimously declaring him the goat

 

When I think you could put a few Hall of Fame quarterbacks with belichick and he would have those super bowls 

 

It takes two to tango and people who think belichick is bad now without Brady are crazy

[somnus00]

14 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said:

The Patriots have had a higher success rate drafting offensive lineman than any other position (they can't draft a good wr to save their lives).  Their staff will probably turn him into a pro-bowler by his third season.

If I remember correctly, people laughed when the Pats drafted Logan Mankins in the 1st as well. He became a pro-bowler. But the Pats had Dante Scarnecchia (one of the best oline coaches in NFL history) at the time. Scarnecchia isn't there anymore.

[Nextmanup]

14 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

He just isn’t a good talent evaluator. Pro or college. Brady made Belichick, not the other way around. 

Ridiculous take.

 

 

14 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It was a winning strategy BB chose before the game started, based on the anticipated weather.

 

 Having your QB attempt 30 passes in that wind (for 145 yards total--the longest was 26 yards to Diggs, not 50) was a bad decision.

 

 

He made the wind a nonfactor for his team.  see above.

Wasting time arguing with people who think BB is a terrible coach is like arguing with someone who is dead convinced the sky is green, or that the world is going to end next Wednesday, but he happens to know now.

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I think Billy B's has taken a lot of players off the scrap heap and gotten good production out of them on both sides of the ball. I think he has also gotten some draft hits here and there all throughout the draft. But no GM is perfect and as a GM I would say he is pretty average at best maybe better on the pro side esp in the bargain bin. 

 

He is good at coaching players up to perform well, but not good at determining which players have high end talent.

 

His picks consistently leave a lot to be desired. Hasn't had a player he drafted that made the pro bowl other than Mac Jones by default after Allen declined since 2013.

[RyanC883]

14 hours ago, Doc said:

 

He's the greatest defensive mind in NFL history. 

 

Dick LeBeau

[Chicken Boo]

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Totally agree.  And he still likely doesn't win a Super Bowl without Brady.

 

And Brady doesn't win anything in NE without Belichick's defenses or his hiring of Dante Scarnecchia.

 

It goes both ways.

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

And Brady doesn't win anything in NE without Belichick's defenses or his hiring of Dante Scarnecchia.

 

It goes both ways.

 

That would have been more valid if he didn't win a SB with the Bucs.

[Coffeesforclosers]

7 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

And Brady doesn't win anything in NE without Belichick's defenses or his hiring of Dante Scarnecchia.

 

It goes both ways.

 

Except he has outside of NE without either of those guys?

[Chicken Boo]

Just now, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Except he has outside of NE without either of those guys?

 

Right.  With Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Gronk, Antonio Brown, Lenoard Fournette and arguably the best defense in the league that year.

 

What a feat.

[Coffeesforclosers]

5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Right.  With Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Gronk, Antonio Brown, Lenoard Fournette and arguably the best defense in the league that year.

 

What a feat.

 

Yeah, it is.  Along with the three NE SB wins where the other team scored 24+ points.  Or maybe it was Belichick who got Vinatieri into FG range?

Edited April 29, 2022 by Coffeesforclosers

[MJS]

Belichick is a great coach. That's undeniable. He is a great defensive mind.

 

As a GM, it is a mixed bag for sure. He has brought in overlooked players in the past and gotten good production. I don't think he has ever been anything but an average drafter, and more recently I'd say he has been pretty bad in the draft.

 

I do think Brady has covered up a lot of deficiencies on offense over the years.

[Mr. WEO]

39 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

That would have been more valid if he didn't win a SB with the Bucs.

 

With the 5th ranked D in points allowed....

 

You certainly have come a long way from when you stated that BB could have the same success in NE with "half a dozen QBs".

[Chicken Boo]

4 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Yeah, it is.  Along with the three NE SB wins where the other team scored 24+ points.  Or maybe it was Belichick who got Vinatieri into FG range?

 

You win.  Bill Belichick is a horrible coach.  Totally overrated.

[Peter]

16 hours ago, Doc said:

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. . .

 

When you are a stranger 
Faces look ugly
When you're alone

 

Women seem wicked
When you're unwanted
Streets are uneven
When you're down

 

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
When you're strange
When you're strange

 

People are strange
When you're a stranger
Faces look ugly
When you're alone

 

Women seem wicked
When you're unwanted
Streets are uneven
When you're down

 

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
When you're strange
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All right, yeah

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name

 

When you're strange
When you're strange
When you're strange

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by Peter

[Chaos]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I mean, do they not have legit points?  He is well below .500 without Brady as his QB.  Look at his draft history and free agent additions....it's been terrible.

He is a great defensive coach that had Brady cover up his other warts.  He's not a terrible head coach but is a terrible GM.  

 

This is a weak take based on hate. 

[Punching Bag]

15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Bill belichick's defensive game plan shut down the bills kgun in the Bills Giants SB ... It's literally in the HoF

 

he's been a defensive guru for 30 plus years and has won super bowls with great defensive performances 

 

His ability to adapt his scheme across multiple eras ... Running multiple fronts and confusing top quarterbacks for 30 years is a tremendous legacy  

 

And he just took the Patriots to the playoffs with a terrible rag arm quarterback...

 

He just can't stop Josh Allen : ) 

 

And yes he isn't the greatest GM.. but his defensive coaching abilities are unquestioned

 

 

 

Lots of people question his current defensive coaching abilities.

 

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

This is a weak take based on hate. 

 

This is a weak take based on worship. 

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

 

Lots of people question his current defensive coaching abilities.

 

 

This is a weak take based on worship. 

Lame. Witless. Not surprising. check. check. check.

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

 

Lots of people question his current defensive coaching abilities.

 

 

This is a weak take based on worship. 

His defense just carried his rag armed quarterback to the playoffs

 

Just because he has recent trouble stopping the most physically gifted quarterback in NFL history doesn't mean he's not a defensive genius

[Haslett_Stomp]

9 hours ago, Big Turk said:

So Belichick creates holes by trading one guard and letting the other walk then drafts a guy he could have gotten in round 3 in the first round?

 

When his defense hasn't forced a punt in over two games versus the Bills and the only close game of the last 4 was a game he was aided by 70 mph winds??

 

How has he not been fired as GM yet? Especially with his abysmal draft record the past several years.

 

Kraft is hoping for a happy ending?

[Logic]

15 minutes ago, Chaos said:

This is a weak take based on hate. 

I disagree. I think Bill the coach is the greatest of all time, but Bill the GM is below average and should have been replaced years ago. Many Patriots fans agree.

[YoloinOhio]

That is the funniest vid of all time 

 

5 D chess!

[Royale with Cheese]

20 minutes ago, Chaos said:

This is a weak take based on hate. 

I don’t hate him.  I think he’s a good coach that Brady made legendary.

[Doc]

22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

With the 5th ranked D in points allowed....

 

You certainly have come a long way from when you stated that BB could have the same success in NE with "half a dozen QBs".

 

8th in points allowed.

 

And I made that comment prior to Brady becoming a prolific passer.  But I think that Belicheat could have won a fair number of SBs with half a dozen (of the HOF) QBs over the past 2 decades. 

[That's No Moon]

16 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said:

The Patriots have had a higher success rate drafting offensive lineman than any other position (they can't draft a good wr to save their lives).  Their staff will probably turn him into a pro-bowler by his third season.

Did Dante Scarnecchia come out of retirement again?

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

And Brady doesn't win anything in NE without Belichick's defenses or his hiring of Dante Scarnecchia.

 

It goes both ways.

Yeah, I don't buy that.  Just look at Tampa Bay.

[Chicken Boo]

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Yeah, I don't buy that.  Just look at Tampa Bay.

 

*sigh* Yeah.  LOOK at Tampa Bay.  The most talent he's ever had.  About 5 QBs could have won a Super Bowl with that squad.

[atlbillsfan1975]

In round two Belichick picks a deep ball threat receiver with a noodle armed QB. You guys can love on him all you want,  Belichick stinks at the draft. 

Edited April 30, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975

[BillsFan4]

 

18 minutes in 😂

 

He doesn’t know how much more the fan base can take. First Tom Brady moves on, then they draft a guard from chattanooga in the first round… 😂 

 

that fan base is in for such a rude awakening. I just hope the Bills can torture the patriots for as many years as they tortured us! Heck, I’d even take 1/2 that amount of time (10yrs). lol 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

In round two Belichick picks a deep ball threat reliever with a noodle armed QB. You guys can love on him all you want,  Belichick stinks at the draft. 

 

He's been chasing that speed WR almost his entire time in Cheaterland.

[Locomark]

23 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Bill belichick's defensive game plan shut down the bills kgun in the Bills Giants SB ... It's literally in the HoF

 

he's been a defensive guru for 30 plus years and has won super bowls with great defensive performances 

 

His ability to adapt his scheme across multiple eras ... Running multiple fronts and confusing top quarterbacks for 30 years is a tremendous legacy  

 

And he just took the Patriots to the playoffs with a terrible rag arm quarterback...

 

He just can't stop Josh Allen : ) 

 

And yes he isn't the greatest GM.. but his defensive coaching abilities are unquestioned

So he is a great defensive cooordinator. That is not who should be drafting…..

[Ghost_002!]

7 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

Did Dante Scarnecchia come out of retirement again?

 

 

Keep seeing this...they won a SB without Dante. Bills fans need to put this take to rest. 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

In round two Belichick picks a deep ball threat receiver with a noodle armed QB. You guys can love on him all you want,  Belichick stinks at the draft. 

 Jones actually throws a decent deep ball, it just doesn’t have much zip. Against most other safeties that Hyde int is a beautif TD pass. 

Edited April 30, 2022 by Rock-A-Bye Beasley

[Ghost_002!]

11 minutes ago, Locomark said:

So he is a great defensive cooordinator. That is not who should be drafting…..

 

 

Won executive of the year last year. And all those SBs don't get won if it wasn't for some of his draft picks..

 

 

And I hate the 1st round pick and trading back to get him. But some bills fans kill me trying to talk crap about him while the whole bills team is still chasing at least a trip to a SB.

[Warcodered]

13 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Won executive of the year last year. And all those SBs don't get won if it wasn't for some of his draft picks..

 

 

And I hate the 1st round pick and trading back to get him. But some bills fans kill me trying to talk crap about him while the whole bills team is still chasing at least a trip to a SB.

For creating the team that we didn't have to punt against twice.

[Ghost_002!]

15 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

For creating the team that we didn't have to punt against twice.

 

 

That's great and what exactly did that get you? Let me go back and see if that helped you beat the next team...or the team after that..

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

That's great and what exactly did that get you? Let me go back and see if that helped you beat the next team...or the team after that..

Wouldn't that actually support my point even more?

[Ghost_002!]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Wouldn't that actually support my point even more?

 

 

Your point is what?