Bills eyeing Gilmore…Hmmmm 🤔

[Peace Frog]

3 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Brady wouldn’t be very good at corner 

I saw what you did there.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

You’re forgetting about that playoff game/super bowl in which his defense slowed down the greatest show on snow and stole a Lombardi from us.  Oh yeah…he wasn’t the head coach.  
 

how many Super Bowls has Parcells won without Belichick?  
 

the notion he’s only good because of Brady is one of the worst takes in sports. 
 

If you don’t think he’s the best ever, I get it…..but he’s one of the best football minds ever. There is no doubt 

Not forgetting anything. Like his performance with the Browns and now post Brady in guessing he's scratching .500.

 

 

He has had a few years where he hit the cream of the crop coming to him because they were great but that wasn't because of him. 

 

Similar how players want to play with allen now and not because they have high praise for McD.

[hondo in seattle]

9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

No more Gilmore 

please.  
 

he was overrated and IIRC said some bad 💩 when he left. 
 

His ego was also overinflated 

 

He was an Un Happy Gilmore 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/06/14/gilmore-grudgingly-reports-for-bills-mandatory-practices/85892150/

 

 

He wasn't happy on the Whaley-Rex Bills.  

 

This is an entirely different organization.  

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Not forgetting anything. Like his performance with the Browns and now post Brady in guessing he's scratching .500.

 

 

He has had a few years where he hit the cream of the crop coming to him because they were great but that wasn't because of him. 

 

Similar how players want to play with allen now and not because they have high praise for McD.

Tough to win with a washed up Bernie, Mike Tomzack, Vinny T, washed up Mark Rypien.  
 

He was able to go 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 Ints.  
 

Marv levy was garbage until he had JK.  There are several instances of coaches sucking with sucky QBs and stacking win with a good QB.  Most coaches do suck when they have crappy QBs.  

Edited April 4, 2022 by NewEra

[wppete]

Psss on Gilmore. He seems like a very troubled person. No headaches or distractions, 

[The Wiz]

21 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Tough to win with a washed up Bernie, Mike Tomzack, Vinny T, washed up Mark Rypien.  
 

He was able to go 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 Ints.  
 

Marv levy was garbage until he had JK.  There are several instances of coaches sucking with sucky QBs and stacking win with a good QB.  Most coaches do suck when they have crappy QBs.  

You kinda made the point for me there. 

 

You can be a great defensive minded coach but if you don't have the offense to back it up it doesn't matter most of the time. 

 

I don't doubt he is a great defensive minded coach. But he did wasnt the reason he has the record he has.

[Southern_Bills]

Who cares he left, we were not a good team then. No one should be expected to play for a team going nowhere. 

 

I'd welcome him back, he wasn't as good as people made out but he would still be a great veteran for the right price.

[Putin]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

Who cares he left, we were not a good team then. No one should be expected to play for a team going nowhere. 

 

I'd welcome him back, he wasn't as good as people made out but he would still be a great veteran for the right price.

The only way he’s coming to Buffalo is if Bean gives him more $$$$ then any other team 

that’s it , it’s all about money for him 

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

Who cares he left, we were not a good team then. No one should be expected to play for a team going nowhere. 

 

I'd welcome him back, he wasn't as good as people made out but he would still be a great veteran for the right price.

Yes it’s called being under contract and anybody that doesn’t want to play with the team drafted them can go ***** themselves

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

He wasn't happy on the Whaley-Rex Bills.  

 

This is an entirely different organization.  

while true,

it still doesn’t excuse giving up on plays and other traits that  followed him beyond Buffalo 

 

https://nesn.com/2021/10/stephon-gilmore-patriots-exit-about-one-of-two-things/amp/

 

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the trading of Gilmore to the Carolina Panthers is a cost-cutting move that hurts the Patriots on the field. At worst, it’s gross mismanagement of a disgruntled asset. The truth probably is somewhere in the middle.

But that rabbit hole is for a different story.

 

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The significant meat on that bone — Gilmore’s age and injury concerns; the reported contract dispute; Belichick’s mounting general manager misfires — must be hit from multiple angles.

 

 

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That already has generated debate over Gilmore’s true feelings about the Patriots. Why wouldn’t he just play for the same money for the Patriots, rather than the Panthers?

 

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Does Gilmore, in fact, hate New England so muchthat he’s willing to make the same money for one franchise that he was unwilling to accept from the Patriots? (This theory operates under the assumption that Rapoport’s initial reporting was inaccurate, and that Gilmore actually wouldn’t play without a raise.)

 

[Southern_Bills]

4 minutes ago, Putin said:

The only way he’s coming to Buffalo is if Bean gives him more $$$$ then any other team 

that’s it , it’s all about money for him 

 

If that's the case it's a hard pass, I know he was all about the money, but usually players see the big picture when decline in skills start happening. 

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Yes it’s called being under contract and anybody that doesn’t want to play with the team drafted them can go ***** themselves

 

That's just emotional, he wasn't under contract. He finished the contract and left in free agency. 

 

That's like saying you're an engineer for a company that is failing and your offered a job at a successful company for more pay and you're not supposed to take it because of "loyalty". 

 

Just doesn't work that way.

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

You kinda made the point for me there. 

 

You can be a great defensive minded coach but if you don't have the offense to back it up it doesn't matter most of the time. 

 

I don't doubt he is a great defensive minded coach. But he did wasnt the reason he has the record he has.

I made your point if you completely overlooked the fact that he went 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 ints.  

[Magnum Force]

Gilmore, Haden or Xavier Rhodes?  Which one

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Magnum Force said:

Gilmore, Haden or Xavier Rhodes?  Which one

I’ll take gilmore but he’s also going to cost the most imo. He might double what the other guys make.  Might triple one of them.  

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Logic said:

You must be mistaken, Scott. I’ve never been wrong in my life. Not once.

 

Since Scott also has never been wrong and you do not agree with him this means the laws of the universe are being bent.

 

The two of you will need to have a "spoon competition".

Whomever can bend the spoon furthest is the winner.

He does have the advantage being stunt double for Blue Raja.

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I’ll take gilmore but he’s also going to cost the most imo. He might double what the other guys make.  Might triple one of them.  

It’ll be worth it if they can fit him in.

[Magnum Force]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It’ll be worth it if they can fit him in.

I just can’t see us fitting him at what his market value will be.  I don’t see it happening myself. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Magnum Force said:

I just can’t see us fitting him at what his market value will be.  I don’t see it happening myself. 

Why? 1 year deal. They have the ability to.

[Magnum Force]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why? 1 year deal. They have the ability to.

At 31 years old… I think he would want a longer term deal and has the resume to get it. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Magnum Force said:

At 31 years old… I think he would want a longer term deal and has the resume to get it. 

Give it to him. I think if the Bills decided Edmunds isn’t getting a contract then there is room for another 10+ million a year deal. Poyer is another player they have to make a decision on. If they go young at those positions next year that opens the door to spend elsewhere on defense. Obviously the Oliver contract coming in 2 years but they have future room for another large contract.

[Orlando Tim]

Isn't Gilmore slow now for a CB? I know he can tackle but lack of speed is a big concern on our back end for me.

[Locomark]

Von also was playing golf with Haden a few days ago. I think the Bills are all in on a veteran as well as drafting high. Which vet, depends on who will sign for under $5. IMO that won’t be Gilmore because he was still voted to the pro bowl last year. He won’t go anywhere for under $10. 

[Rico]

I didn’t hate him when he was here before, but he really lost a lost of luster to me with his stint in Carolina, so I would have to say no.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

If that's the case it's a hard pass, I know he was all about the money, but usually players see the big picture when decline in skills start happening. 

 

That's just emotional, he wasn't under contract. He finished the contract and left in free agency. 

 

That's like saying you're an engineer for a company that is failing and your offered a job at a successful company for more pay and you're not supposed to take it because of "loyalty". 

 

Just doesn't work that way.

Yes it’s like he was a model player while he was with us you could totally tell he didn’t want to be there

[jwhit34]

Setting aside the cap implications for a minute, why do I get the feeling many here would rather see Christian Wade or Duke Williams on the 53 rather than Gilmore? 

 

I think most still want to see a vet CB in here and I think it will happen. Gilmore may be a long shot but it would be okay with me. 

 

Raise your hand if you thought the Bills would land Von Miller.

[Norcalbillsfan]

4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Everything I have seen from Gilmore is a play for pay mentality. Now every professional has that to some degree, but you can also play with heart. I don’t see much heart from Gilmore. 

I'll admit he never looked like he was happy to be a bill and said some stupid things when he left, but you don't become defensive player of the year playing from pure talent and just a desire for money. You have to put in the work to be the best, and he obviously did being arguably the best CB in the nfl for span of about 3 years. This is a new bills regime, and hes older and wiser, I bet he could buy into the bills mentality.

[Scorp83]

12 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

The article shows zero evidence this has happened, it outright says "nothing in the works" and then says the Bills could be in on him because he was here before. 

Understandable….just wanted some thoughts if it were to happen? How would you feel about him returning after the way he left? 

[Scorp83]

11 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I'm sure they'd love to get him. 

 

I have drastic doubt they can afford him. Totally makes sense to kick the tires, though.

Thurm! My guy 😎 … I can see why they would be interested in him but as most people have said in this thread…Gilmore is a me guy for sure! I just don’t think he’s the type of player that goes with our culture. I don’t think he’ll truly buy in

[Scorp83]

3 hours ago, Putin said:

The only way he’s coming to Buffalo is if Bean gives him more $$$$ then any other team 

that’s it , it’s all about money for him 

I don’t think his demand is that high…price probably went down because nobody was interested. Now his price has lowered which is why we’re hearing teams may have some interest in him. He’s going to get a 1 yr $8M dollar deal ….something like that…just don’t see him getting a huge pay day honestly 

[Freddie's Dead]

The Price is WRONG, Bobby!

[ndirish1978]

49 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

Understandable….just wanted some thoughts if it were to happen? How would you feel about him returning after the way he left? 

 

Still a very good if declining talent with absolutely zero leadership or teammate skills. He's proven he's all about $ and talked trash about Buffalo on his way out. Yes, he played when we were a clownshow, but the shots were unwarranted. I'd 100% rather give up a mid-round pick to the Giants for Bradberry. 

[BigDingus]

I don't remember him leaving on bad terms, but going to the Patriots is what hurt. 

 

For a while, the Bills just felt like a DB farm team for other teams to loot once they developed. I wouldn't mind Gilmore back, just wouldn't expect anything great from him. 

[Peace Frog]

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

16 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

Hello all…haven’t posted in while. But this just popped up on my phone & I’m curious on what the fans think about Gilmore coming back here???

Me personally, I wouldn’t really like it being how he left us…I feel like he don’t deserve to be part of our special team hahahaha 

like don’t come back now after we became great. 
 

(I was trying to post my screenshot but the website won’t let me) 

 

hes not horrible and i would take him at the right price. I could care less that he left, good on him getting a Superbowl.

 

ALL THAT MATTERS IS WINNING THE SUPERBOWL.

 

 

15 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

disagree 

 

From the link above 

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) — After skipping the Buffalo Bills' entire spring schedule of voluntary workouts, cornerback Stephon Gilmore provided one good reason why he showed up for practice on Tuesday.

"It's mandatory," Gilmore said.

 

Rather than risk being fined by the Bills for refusing to report, Gilmore was a grudging participant in opening the team's three-day mandatory minicamp.

 

Was a different team back then, given our track record who could blame him for leaving.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

We need to get beyond the “hurt feelings” and keep the eyes on the prize. The Super Bowl is all that matters!! Gilmore isn’t the player that he was but could be a valuable addition. 

 

I dont get fans obsession with players being "traitors",  its a business and they are here to make money and win and thats what Gilmore did. If he can help us im all for it.

 

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian

[GreggTX]

What do you mean by "how he left"? The Bills made an offer and NE offered more. We had been a bad team for many years and NE was winning SB's. We were undergoing regime changes regularly while NE was set for the long run. He wanted to win and get paid. What's the problem?

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, NewEra said:

I made your point if you completely overlooked the fact that he went 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 ints.  

He also went 11-5 with Matt Cassell.  Brady's first three Super Bowl's had more to do with the defense than him.  Belichick is an all time great coach but I do wonder if the modern game has passed him by.

[nucci]

38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

He also went 11-5 with Matt Cassell.  Brady's first three Super Bowl's had more to do with the defense than him.  Belichick is an all time great coach but I do wonder if the modern game has passed him by.

not sure it's passed him by. He got away with poor drafting over the years. It's now catching up to him. They don't have great players on the roster right now

[H2o]

I'd take Gilmore back if he wanted to come here on a team friendly deal in hopes of getting another ring. His play hasn't fallen off of a cliff like Norman's had and right now he's better than Levi Wallace was. Having both him and Tre, when Tre is healthy, on the boundaries would be awesome. He could also fill that #1 role in case Tre's recovery drags a few weeks into the season if need be. If this were to happen we would truly be going into the draft with no glaring holes whatsoever. 

[Pete]

Gilmore would be a fantastic signing for right deal.  That would be great if we could sign CB 2 pre draft, fill all our holes.  And then go BPA all day!