Malazan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Just now, Putin said: I’d rather we kept Beasley and it’s not even close I hope the biggest decisions you are responsible for is deciding whether to ask if someone wants fries with that.. ...scratch that. That might too big of one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 This signing, at the price, may suggest a bit of the difference between Dabol and Dorsey’s schemes. I guess I will have to wait to see if what I am thinking plays out. Go Bills!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: He’s had the opportunity for a while now. And oh by the way, he’s been inactive and has had ball security issues. I’m not sure why everyone is so excited about this. It’s pretty meh to me… Has he really had an opportunity for awhile as a WR? As a returner, he has. He failed and will likely never be a returner for us again imo. He always answers when called upon on offense imo. He had the highest catch % of all our WRs last season @ 76%. Sure, there were some short passes but he made more than a handful of them tough grabs imo. The kid is ultra quick and tough to cover. He gets open. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHewIt Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 But he hates McD? McD lost the team? Bease is a locker room cancer, but we replaced him with a guy that did a bad tweet? Fumbles are bad? I don't even know what to think anymore....! Really though, awesome signing, Magic Beanes does it again 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 So what else does MaCKenzie brings to the table besides the crossing routs against man coverage ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Just now, BillsFan619 said: Excluding JA, predict which player will have the biggest impact… 🤣😜🤣 You Know it!!! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: This signing, at the price, may suggest a bit of the difference between Dabol and Dorsey’s schemes. I guess I will have to wait to see if what I am thinking plays out. Go Bills!!! I doubt this price has anything more to do with than the WR market. Robby Anderson is making over 14 mill a year for ~50 receptions and 500 yards. There's several other guys in that price range with similar stats. It's WR3 money. It has to be suspected that McKenzie will be WR3 whatever the contract. Edited March 13, 2022 by Malazan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 The “Run It Back” tour continues. Expect to see Boogie Basham and AJ Epenesa playing Wordle on the sidelines on Sundays. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Let’s see what C Patterson gets paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I had him returning to Buffalo at $2.75M....(basically a $2M hit on the Bills cap).....if he really got $4M that's another $1M type over-pay. The investment is large enough that he's gotta' be considered the starting slot receiver...........but also small enough that you can see them paying a high end veteran TE to pair with Knox and using more 12 personnel. Where have you seen the actual structure of the deal? I missed that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Solid move... A lot of people overestimate his worth on the market There are a lot of players like him in the league across 32 teams... And five to seven guys every draft come out with his attributes he's a good athlete and worked himself into a good football player.. a good package.. but 5 to 10 guys a year come out with his skill set.. it's not a thin skill set in the NFL 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hermes Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 My wife bore my child twice and yet I'm happier today than I was either of the days my children were born. Welcome home to the face of the franchise! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: The “Run It Back” tour continues. Expect to see Boogie Basham and AJ Epenesa playing Wordle on the sidelines on Sundays. Yes because it really worked out great for us last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I had him returning to Buffalo at $2.75M....(basically a $2M hit on the Bills cap).....if he really got $4M that's another $1M type over-pay. The investment is large enough that he's gotta' be considered the starting slot receiver...........but also small enough that you can see them paying a high end veteran TE to pair with Knox and using more 12 personnel. I was thinking he’d get 2-3 years 3M AAV. More than I had expected but, but knowing Beane, he’s usually ok slightly overpaying the guys that he knows and likes, even if they aren’t worth it. I think Isaiah could be with it if we utilize him correctly. agreed about the 12 personnel. I hope that’s the case Edited March 13, 2022 by NewEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Solid move... A lot of people overestimate his worth on the market There are a lot of players like him in the league across 32 teams... And five to seven guys every draft come out with his attributes he's a good athlete and worked himself into a good football player.. a good package.. but 5 to 10 guys a year come out with his skill set.. it's not a thin skill set in the NFL 32 teams with only 5-10 guys coming out each year when there's say 2 positions for them to fill with an average career of less than 3 years... ... the math wouldn't be on your side in this equation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Steptide said: Agree. He might not be Hill, but he has the opportunity to add a dimension to this offense we haven't seen quite yet He is nowhere close to Hill. McKenzie and his 4.42 speed at his size is really not a big deal. Beasley ran a 4.49. He is shifty, but McKenzie ain’t anywhere close to Hill. I think he has a role, but he isn’t a game breaker. I think this is an overpay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Malazan said: 32 teams with only 5-10 guys coming out each year when there's say 2 positions for them to fill with an average career of less than 3 years... ... the math wouldn't be on your side in this equation. Not every single team utilizes a player with that type of role... A lot of these players are the 5th 6th guy on rosters or practice squads.. Mckenzie got cut Go through the draft right now there's absolutely 5-10 guys who have the skill set to be developed into a McKenzie roll .. possibly more But Not every team in the NFL utilizes that role , and most never reach even McKenzie's level Edited March 13, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Malazan said: I doubt this price has anything more to do with than the WR market. Robby Anderson is making over 14 mill a year for ~50 receptions and 500 yards. There's several other guys in that price range with similar stats. It's WR3 money. I agree with where it places him in the Bills WR pecking order, I was more so thinking about Dorsey wanting to increase YAC with more speed on the field more often, type of thing. They still need to fill Sanders and Beasley’s spots to fill out the primary rotation at WR, maybe more speed guys at the position?? Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Nole Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Putin said: I’d rather we kept Beasley and it’s not even close 1000 percent agree. The dislike for cole extends beyond his play and it is sad to see the stupidity. I also think they overpaid for a fourth wr gadget guy. Would’ve rather seen them go after a difference maker than pay for mckenzie - but we’ll see what this week brings i guess. 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Otreply Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hermes said: My wife bore my child twice and yet I'm happier today than I was either of the days my children were born. Welcome home to the face of the franchise! How do the wife and kids feel about this? Asking for a friend, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I like it. Doesn’t change the fact that this Offense needs another legitimate weapon, but it’s good to have McKenzie in the mix for the slot/gadget role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I think the Bills wanted Beasley and when Beasley asked for a trade they went to plan B. Not sure of the contract details but I wouldn’t be surprised that some of it is with incentives and that the cap hit is less than $3m for this year. With Emmanuel and Beasley most likely gone that still means the Bills have to find another two WR’s. The draft is deep with receivers, I think they pick up both there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Beans continues to work hard to keep the core members of the Bills family together. Just an excellent signing. The papers in Philly sounded like he was about to sign their. Now if they can keep Phillips, and sign either Hughes or Addison to a "Team friendly" contract, the key Bills FA's are in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: How do the wife and kids feel about this? Asking for a friend, Well I can't say she's happy about it...but she's the one who broke the news. She knows what's up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I'd bet almost anything that the contract terms as announced are misleading. When the contract details come out, they will likely reveal a very team and cap friendly contract laden with incentives and an out after one year. That said, I'm glad lil dirty is back. Hopefully they're not done adding at WR. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, NY Nole said: 1000 percent agree. The dislike for cole extends beyond his play and it is sad to see the stupidity. I also think they overpaid for a fourth wr gadget guy. Would’ve rather seen them go after a difference maker than pay for mckenzie - but we’ll see what this week brings i guess. Not only that, but I guarantee this is Beane’s “fix” for the offense and almost guarantees we won’t be going with a first round offensive playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 What if no one bites on Cole Beasley? Could be a trade piece once the season starts. A WR goes down injured somewhere, someone could come knocking. In the meantime, I'm happy that we have one less position to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Looks like McD’s job is on the line, Beane choosing McKenzie over him. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ross Murdock said: Beans continues to work hard to keep the core members of the Bills family together. Just an excellent signing. The papers in Philly sounded like he was about to sign their. Now if they can keep Phillips, and sign either Hughes or Addison to a "Team friendly" contract, the key Bills FA's are in the books. Running it back is what caused the oline issues most of this season. Who cares if it’s core players? Put the best players out there and make a conscious effort to improve each off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Yes! Great value and hopefully they will make him a bigger part of the offense...think he can actually improve on Beasley's slot production. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Wow. I'm honestly shocked. I figured he'd want to test the market at the very least. Guess the scuttlebutt of him not being happy here and McDermott not being a fan were bs. Do you think he didn’t know the market? He tested it. Surprised we gave this much but Vets that contribute get paid a lil bit, so it’s not unreasonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Brady is coming back !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Not every single team utilizes a player with that type of role... A lot of these players are the 5th 6th guy on rosters or practice squads.. Mckenzie got cut Go through the draft right now there's absolutely 5-10 guys who have the skill set to be developed into a McKenzie roll .. possibly more given the draft failure rate of WRs, I think you're still off base. Using the '100 career' reception marker (a low bar), only ~25% of WRs in the 1st round are successful. So if there's 5-10 guys who *could* be developed to reach that mark (as you yourself say).. and those 5-10 guys are all drafted in the 1st round.. You're going to 1.25 to 2.5 guys reaching that level of success. Braxton Berrios reportedly returned down 5 million a year and believes he'll get much more. Many of you need to reset your minds on NFL player compensation. Of course, I'm being unfair here as McKenzie still needs 1 more reception to get to 100 for his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I had him returning to Buffalo at $2.75M....(basically a $2M hit on the Bills cap).....if he really got $4M that's another $1M type over-pay. The investment is large enough that he's gotta' be considered the starting slot receiver...........but also small enough that you can see them paying a high end veteran TE to pair with Knox and using more 12 personnel. I think 8mil is a good price for him. Depends how the contract is structured but McKenzie at $8 isn’t going to preclude the Bills from signing anyone else in FA. Beane likes to make moves so he isn’t forced away from best player available in the draft. I expect his next priority is CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NY Nole said: 1000 percent agree. The dislike for cole extends beyond his play and it is sad to see the stupidity. I also think they overpaid for a fourth wr gadget guy. Would’ve rather seen them go after a difference maker than pay for mckenzie - but we’ll see what this week brings i guess. Amazing that you'd make a claim of stupidity here... Beasely took 691 snaps in 2021 which is more than he had in 2020 and 3rd most in his career. Beasely was targeted 112 times in 2021 which is the most of his career. His yard/reception was the lowest of his career. His YAC was the lowest of his career. He had the fewest TDs (1) of his career (Rookie season when he didn't play excluded). His YPG puts him somewhere in 50th/60th among WRs. It seems that you want it to be about something other than football. Not the other way around. Edited March 13, 2022 by Malazan 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: He is nowhere close to Hill. McKenzie and his 4.42 speed at his size is really not a big deal. Beasley ran a 4.49. He is shifty, but McKenzie ain’t anywhere close to Hill. I think he has a role, but he isn’t a game breaker. I think this is an overpay. Maybe, maybe not. If they can use him how they did in the 2nd Patriots game, he'll absolutely be worth it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Good and smart signing. Observing they way Beane at all work, they sign whom they can to not have any massive holes come draft time so they are able to be flexible and truly take BPA. Good practice to not pigeon hole yourself into a bad reach! glad he is back! But dam I would love some Jameson Williams! Lol This doesn’t take that off the table at all. Unless Beane focused on this signing to allow pick 25 to be used in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Just now, purple haze said: This doesn’t take that off the table at all. Unless Beane focused on this signing to allow pick 25 to be used in a trade. Honestly it might make it more likely, we didn't go out and sign an expensive guy and WR room still has space for a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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